Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

You feel like you need this to be true but it’s not. Most people—including a lot of Israelis— want the hostages returned home and the war to stop.

This offer has been on the table for months but Netanyahu won’t accept it because he can’t have the war end and dace accountability

Accountability meaning apologize for Israel's mere existence? Yeah who would accept that. If you want the fighting to stop, find another solution. You may not get to humble Israel, but you are willing to sacrifice people for this goal? Well that is a choice. This is what is showing that pro-Palestinians do not really care if the killing stops. They have other goals.

Not even accountability for the country — I just meant for Bibi. He is prolonging the war as a means to cling to power. Otherwise he might have to stand trial as previously scheduled for corruption and there will be an inquiry into how 10/7 was allowed to happen— whether his focus on militarizing the West Bank contributed or whether the army ignored warning signs, etc.

10/7 happened because Hamas attacked.

If you think there were no failures on the Israeli side that contributed to Hamas invading Israel on 10/7 then you must be related to Netanyahu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

DP

Why do you pretend to represent Israel? The mentality underlying your statements was described as evil, but you translated that into a label being applied to Israel? Or being applied to all Jews?

More concerning, why would the response to people THINKING one side is evil even justify that side ACTING in evil ways anyway - that kinda just proves their point.

“This is why they fight the way they do. They know you think they’re evil, so therefore that’s why they fight as if they’re evil.” WTH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

DP

Why do you pretend to represent Israel? The mentality underlying your statements was described as evil, but you translated that into a label being applied to Israel? Or being applied to all Jews?

More concerning, why would the response to people THINKING one side is evil even justify that side ACTING in evil ways anyway - that kinda just proves their point.

“This is why they fight the way they do. They know you think they’re evil, so therefore that’s why they fight as if they’re evil.” WTH

I don't represent anyone. My point was that the PP thinks Israel is evil incarnate. Israel knows its opposition thinks it is evil incarnate, this is why Israel defends itself the way it does. It's opposition wants it to disappear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

You feel like you need this to be true but it’s not. Most people—including a lot of Israelis— want the hostages returned home and the war to stop.

This offer has been on the table for months but Netanyahu won’t accept it because he can’t have the war end and dace accountability

Accountability meaning apologize for Israel's mere existence? Yeah who would accept that. If you want the fighting to stop, find another solution. You may not get to humble Israel, but you are willing to sacrifice people for this goal? Well that is a choice. This is what is showing that pro-Palestinians do not really care if the killing stops. They have other goals.

Not even accountability for the country — I just meant for Bibi. He is prolonging the war as a means to cling to power. Otherwise he might have to stand trial as previously scheduled for corruption and there will be an inquiry into how 10/7 was allowed to happen— whether his focus on militarizing the West Bank contributed or whether the army ignored warning signs, etc.

10/7 happened because Hamas attacked.

If you think there were no failures on the Israeli side that contributed to Hamas invading Israel on 10/7 then you must be related to Netanyahu.

Yes, a side that starts a war thinks that it has valid reasons for starting a war--yes, this is why wars start--groundbreaking info! Just continue the fight you started and stop complaining about the war you wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

Israel’s existence is fine by me, albeit without U.S. backing that emboldens Israel to terrorize its neighbors without recourse. In its current phase, it doesn’t really matter what anyone wants because NO country can persist behaving the way Israel currently behaves. Check the history books on that.

But if Israel can reform and establish normalcy, discontinue provoking its neighbors incessantly, etc., sure, Israel can and should persist. Reform will also be needed with some of Israel’s neighbors, too.

But that’s not a choice, really. It’s an offer based on a ticking clock for Israel that will run out at some point, like it always does with every country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

You feel like you need this to be true but it’s not. Most people—including a lot of Israelis— want the hostages returned home and the war to stop.

This offer has been on the table for months but Netanyahu won’t accept it because he can’t have the war end and dace accountability

Accountability meaning apologize for Israel's mere existence? Yeah who would accept that. If you want the fighting to stop, find another solution. You may not get to humble Israel, but you are willing to sacrifice people for this goal? Well that is a choice. This is what is showing that pro-Palestinians do not really care if the killing stops. They have other goals.

Not even accountability for the country — I just meant for Bibi. He is prolonging the war as a means to cling to power. Otherwise he might have to stand trial as previously scheduled for corruption and there will be an inquiry into how 10/7 was allowed to happen— whether his focus on militarizing the West Bank contributed or whether the army ignored warning signs, etc.

10/7 happened because Hamas attacked.

If you think there were no failures on the Israeli side that contributed to Hamas invading Israel on 10/7 then you must be related to Netanyahu.

Yes, a side that starts a war thinks that it has valid reasons for starting a war--yes, this is why wars start--groundbreaking info! Just continue the fight you started and stop complaining about the war you wanted.

DP

You talk tough as the self-appointed rep of Israel here in DCUMland, but your tail would be between your legs if the U.S. ceased to prop you up. Do you not understand that all that stands between your mouth and accountability for those words is the U.S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

Israel’s existence is fine by me, albeit without U.S. backing that emboldens Israel to terrorize its neighbors without recourse. In its current phase, it doesn’t really matter what anyone wants because NO country can persist behaving the way Israel currently behaves. Check the history books on that.

But if Israel can reform and establish normalcy, discontinue provoking its neighbors incessantly, etc., sure, Israel can and should persist. Reform will also be needed with some of Israel’s neighbors, too.

But that’s not a choice, really. It’s an offer based on a ticking clock for Israel that will run out at some point, like it always does with every country.

The whole I don't want the U.S. backing Israel ruse exist because the thought is that is the U.S. stops supporting Israel, it will be weakened and then able to be overthrown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

Israel’s existence is fine by me, albeit without U.S. backing that emboldens Israel to terrorize its neighbors without recourse. In its current phase, it doesn’t really matter what anyone wants because NO country can persist behaving the way Israel currently behaves. Check the history books on that.

But if Israel can reform and establish normalcy, discontinue provoking its neighbors incessantly, etc., sure, Israel can and should persist. Reform will also be needed with some of Israel’s neighbors, too.

But that’s not a choice, really. It’s an offer based on a ticking clock for Israel that will run out at some point, like it always does with every country.

It provokes its neighbors by existing. Too bad so so sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

You feel like you need this to be true but it’s not. Most people—including a lot of Israelis— want the hostages returned home and the war to stop.

This offer has been on the table for months but Netanyahu won’t accept it because he can’t have the war end and dace accountability

Accountability meaning apologize for Israel's mere existence? Yeah who would accept that. If you want the fighting to stop, find another solution. You may not get to humble Israel, but you are willing to sacrifice people for this goal? Well that is a choice. This is what is showing that pro-Palestinians do not really care if the killing stops. They have other goals.

Not even accountability for the country — I just meant for Bibi. He is prolonging the war as a means to cling to power. Otherwise he might have to stand trial as previously scheduled for corruption and there will be an inquiry into how 10/7 was allowed to happen— whether his focus on militarizing the West Bank contributed or whether the army ignored warning signs, etc.

10/7 happened because Hamas attacked.

If you think there were no failures on the Israeli side that contributed to Hamas invading Israel on 10/7 then you must be related to Netanyahu.

Yes, a side that starts a war thinks that it has valid reasons for starting a war--yes, this is why wars start--groundbreaking info! Just continue the fight you started and stop complaining about the war you wanted.

DP

You talk tough as the self-appointed rep of Israel here in DCUMland, but your tail would be between your legs if the U.S. ceased to prop you up. Do you not understand that all that stands between your mouth and accountability for those words is the U.S.

Yes, it is clear that all the cries for U.S. to cease support to Israel is so it can fall, for for "the babies!". What is the U.S. does not want Israel to fall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

You feel like you need this to be true but it’s not. Most people—including a lot of Israelis— want the hostages returned home and the war to stop.

This offer has been on the table for months but Netanyahu won’t accept it because he can’t have the war end and dace accountability

Accountability meaning apologize for Israel's mere existence? Yeah who would accept that. If you want the fighting to stop, find another solution. You may not get to humble Israel, but you are willing to sacrifice people for this goal? Well that is a choice. This is what is showing that pro-Palestinians do not really care if the killing stops. They have other goals.

Not even accountability for the country — I just meant for Bibi. He is prolonging the war as a means to cling to power. Otherwise he might have to stand trial as previously scheduled for corruption and there will be an inquiry into how 10/7 was allowed to happen— whether his focus on militarizing the West Bank contributed or whether the army ignored warning signs, etc.

10/7 happened because Hamas attacked.

If you think there were no failures on the Israeli side that contributed to Hamas invading Israel on 10/7 then you must be related to Netanyahu.

Yes, a side that starts a war thinks that it has valid reasons for starting a war--yes, this is why wars start--groundbreaking info! Just continue the fight you started and stop complaining about the war you wanted.

DP

You talk tough as the self-appointed rep of Israel here in DCUMland, but your tail would be between your legs if the U.S. ceased to prop you up. Do you not understand that all that stands between your mouth and accountability for those words is the U.S.

Yes, it is clear that all the cries for U.S. to cease support to Israel is so it can fall, for for "the babies!". What is the U.S. does not want Israel to fall?

OK, no need for further conversation with you. Strident people don’t deserve the courtesy of a warning anyway. You seem to have it all figured out.

Enjoy your weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

Israel’s existence is fine by me, albeit without U.S. backing that emboldens Israel to terrorize its neighbors without recourse. In its current phase, it doesn’t really matter what anyone wants because NO country can persist behaving the way Israel currently behaves. Check the history books on that.

But if Israel can reform and establish normalcy, discontinue provoking its neighbors incessantly, etc., sure, Israel can and should persist. Reform will also be needed with some of Israel’s neighbors, too.

But that’s not a choice, really. It’s an offer based on a ticking clock for Israel that will run out at some point, like it always does with every country.

It provokes its neighbors by existing. Too bad so so sad.

It provokes its neighbors by attacking them- bombings, artillery, airstrikes, assassinations, supporting ISIS, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

Israel’s existence is fine by me, albeit without U.S. backing that emboldens Israel to terrorize its neighbors without recourse. In its current phase, it doesn’t really matter what anyone wants because NO country can persist behaving the way Israel currently behaves. Check the history books on that.

But if Israel can reform and establish normalcy, discontinue provoking its neighbors incessantly, etc., sure, Israel can and should persist. Reform will also be needed with some of Israel’s neighbors, too.

But that’s not a choice, really. It’s an offer based on a ticking clock for Israel that will run out at some point, like it always does with every country.

Israel has already normalized relations with several of its neighbors, and we just saw Jordan and Saudi Arabia help Israel against the Iranian missile/drone strikes. Meanwhile, nobody seems to want to help the Palestinians because it keeps biting the hand that feeds them, e.g. Black September.

It's the Palestinians, especially the leadership, that need to reform and change course, and unfortunately, it may already be too late.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people just want the killing to stop. Not for Israel to disappear.

Not true. There are ways for the killing to stop now, they are not calling for these ways. They prefer to build a evidence for a public relations trial against Israel so eventually people will want to see it destroyed.

DP

Or … based on past behavior, they don’t believe the propagandized claims that Israel would relent if the hostages were all magically released, or Hamas all magically surrendered, etc. You expect others to believe that the IDF would sprint for the exits, the constant drone flyovers would immediately cease, and Israel would literally stop its atrocities if those events were to occur today.

The problem with that breathtakingly ridiculous assertion is that many just don’t believe Israeli propaganda - because they have been shown time and time again in the past that Netanyahu is incapable of operating truthfully or with any integrity whatsoever.

So there’s no way for the Palestinian men, women and children to stop the killing right now. And there’s also no way for Hamas to stop the killing right now.

But at least you dropped your mask for a moment in the post I’m responding to. You’ve accidentally played your “the killings will stop when morale improves” trump card and everyone can see clearly now that you are indifferent to the killings of people, as long as they are not your people. Where I’m from (America), we call that unmitigated evil.

If you think the side you are up against is evil incarnate, you are seeking their anilation. They know you have this opinion of them, so this is why they fight they way to they do.

You misunderstand, as usual.

I’m saying Netanyahu is evil. I’m definitely saying that you are evil.

There are people on both sides seeking or willing to find coexistence. It’s just that there are also evil people on both sides, like Israel’s leadership and Hamas (and sycophants for one side or the other like you) who cannot be counted upon to do the right thing, ever.

The "right thing" is subjective. If you are seeking a change in the status quo in Israel's existence to stop the war, then you have conditions before you accept the killing stopped. I have no sympathy for you then.

Israel’s existence is fine by me, albeit without U.S. backing that emboldens Israel to terrorize its neighbors without recourse. In its current phase, it doesn’t really matter what anyone wants because NO country can persist behaving the way Israel currently behaves. Check the history books on that.

But if Israel can reform and establish normalcy, discontinue provoking its neighbors incessantly, etc., sure, Israel can and should persist. Reform will also be needed with some of Israel’s neighbors, too.

But that’s not a choice, really. It’s an offer based on a ticking clock for Israel that will run out at some point, like it always does with every country.

Israel has already normalized relations with several of its neighbors, and we just saw Jordan and Saudi Arabia help Israel against the Iranian missile/drone strikes. Meanwhile, nobody seems to want to help the Palestinians because it keeps biting the hand that feeds them, e.g. Black September.

It's the Palestinians, especially the leadership, that need to reform and change course, and unfortunately, it may already be too late.

It’s not the fault of the Palestinians you can’t afford to live in Tel Aviv and therefore have to settle for a cheap house in an illegal settlement.