ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:What little I have seen is the MLSN2 regionals are play in's for the MLS cup showcase in Nashville. Its a select number of teams and not the entire MLSN.

We also have a talent ID event before the MLSN Fest and not sure if that is also a play in event (They seem to have roster caps of 18-20ish???)

Either way some kids are going to get BIG oppertunities for playing well.

Good start for the new league no qestion.

ECNL cannot compete with access to markey events like MLS cup and MLS fest.

Markey events😂😂😂😂

RIP Biz Markey...

But any who, a lot people are making up stuff about a league (MLS2) that has not played a single game and has released almost 0 information. From what I can see, my local MLS2 will be run by NAL. Which is fine but certainly nothing earth shattering or new going on there (that league seemed barely better than USYS regional comps). Then maybe one 'MLSN2 only' event with maybe one team from each age group getting invited to an (singular) MLSN event.

You can't improve quality just by changing the league name. It is still a B team league with B team players who pretend to be MLSN players and pay more.

Mostly true, although for many clubs in the new tier, that will be their top team. Also, while the league name is certainly a rebrand, seems like clubs that perform well over most age groups will be prime MLS Next expansion candidates.

The other thing our club told us (and it could just be a sales pitch obviously) is that movement between top tier and new tier teams can happen the entire year in MLSN vs having to be done by January in ECNL.

You were fed nonsense. None what you wrote will occur.

MLSN1 will not be 'pulling up' from the 2nd team more than they do now just because the 2nd team is now named differently. 99.9% of the MLSN2 (only) clubs will never get MLSN1. This is a rebranding of NAL. Which, to be fair, was needed as NAL was marketed terribly and no one cared about it at all.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is even the best number 1 teams around dont play up a year in NL leagues. At best they play games in RL and struggle at times.

Coaches think RL is just fine untill they need to reform teams. Consider this when choosing this year.

If you dont agree just switch to another NL team and get the bennifits of playing up in NL for a few months knowing change is very soon.

I recently watched a national championship winning (2024) NL side battle to 2-1 (very late) win against their own mid-tier RL side that is one year older. The RL side did not make it out of playoffs in RL in 24.

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is even the best number 1 teams around dont play up a year in NL leagues. At best they play games in RL and struggle at times.

Coaches think RL is just fine untill they need to reform teams. Consider this when choosing this year.

If you dont agree just switch to another NL team and get the bennifits of playing up in NL for a few months knowing change is very soon.

I do not know if any Q4 RL players make the NL team in my club or other ECNL clubs nearby for my son's age group. At this moment, I think NL coaches just build the team as business as usual.

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I think we are 7 months from California doing SY tryouts. Countdown is on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reality is even the best number 1 teams around dont play up a year in NL leagues. At best they play games in RL and struggle at times.

Coaches think RL is just fine untill they need to reform teams. Consider this when choosing this year.

If you dont agree just switch to another NL team and get the bennifits of playing up in NL for a few months knowing change is very soon.

I do not know if any Q4 RL players make the NL team in my club or other ECNL clubs nearby for my son's age group. At this moment, I think NL coaches just build the team as business as usual.

Well yeah, that’s why it will be chaos next spring. The pools of players will be completely mixed up and they won’t able to just roll into tryouts with the idea of just sticking with their current roster.

Except for some younger ages and forward thinking coaches, they’re focused on the next win, not next year.

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Where I am there is no MLS1. The top club has ECNL and and two other clubs went from NPL (their top teams) to MLSN2. Those teams are on level with the top clubs RL teams.

The MLS thing may attract players initially but the showcases will be in groups against other N2 teams. Time will tell if if MLSN2 works out but it seems a LOT better than NPL from a business standpoint

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Anonymous wrote:Where I am there is no MLS1. The top club has ECNL and and two other clubs went from NPL (their top teams) to MLSN2. Those teams are on level with the top clubs RL teams.

The MLS thing may attract players initially but the showcases will be in groups against other N2 teams. Time will tell if if MLSN2 works out but it seems a LOT better than NPL from a business standpoint

Not sure why US Club keeps NPL around. They should have moved those clubs into ECRL a few years ago.

In my old area all of the NPL clubs just switched to MLSN2. For attracting and retaining players it was a no brainer.

2 of them applied for ECNL and were only offered ECRl so that was the motivation for the switch.

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Anonymous wrote:Playing up a year is almost what December kids do right now. This is why there are very few Q4s and almost no December kids in NL and RL teams. Most of these top teams are stacked with Q1 players for a reason. Being 9-12 months older is a huge advantage physically.

Yep…the BY crowd hates when people point this out…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Playing up a year is almost what December kids do right now. This is why there are very few Q4s and almost no December kids in NL and RL teams. Most of these top teams are stacked with Q1 players for a reason. Being 9-12 months older is a huge advantage physically.

Yep…the BY crowd hates when people point this out…

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BY, SY, someone will always be youngest.

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Anonymous wrote:Playing up a year is almost what December kids do right now. This is why there are very few Q4s and almost no December kids in NL and RL teams. Most of these top teams are stacked with Q1 players for a reason. Being 9-12 months older is a huge advantage physically.

The truth is changing the lines will not magically make all Q3/4 RL players ECNL level players. My daughter’s team 2011 NL scrimmages the 2010 RL and we always beat them. But it’s definitely a close game usually (2-0/3-1).

I think the biggest challenge during next year’s tryout will be the Q3/4 NL/GA girl’s.

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Anonymous wrote:Playing up a year is almost what December kids do right now. This is why there are very few Q4s and almost no December kids in NL and RL teams. Most of these top teams are stacked with Q1 players for a reason. Being 9-12 months older is a huge advantage physically.

Yes my daughter December ECNL 2010 player trains and scrimmages with the 2011 team from time to time. The technical and speed is similar and some of the 11s are faster and maybe even more technical. The difference is when physical and size comes in to play. She can easily move them off the ball. Speed of play difference you notice as well.

If players have been able to hang on the top teams as Q3/4s it’s going to be easier to go down and play at the same level. Next year’s tryouts are really going to be crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Playing up a year is almost what December kids do right now. This is why there are very few Q4s and almost no December kids in NL and RL teams. Most of these top teams are stacked with Q1 players for a reason. Being 9-12 months older is a huge advantage physically.

Yes my daughter December ECNL 2010 player trains and scrimmages with the 2011 team from time to time. The technical and speed is similar and some of the 11s are faster and maybe even more technical. The difference is when physical and size comes in to play. She can easily move them off the ball. Speed of play difference you notice as well.

If players have been able to hang on the top teams as Q3/4s it’s going to be easier to go down and play at the same level. Next year’s tryouts are really going to be crazy.

U12-14 will see the widest swings. You have the normal shake up of puberty hitting and the age grouping change...

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For SY is there an agreement on what that means? (Sept 1-August 31) or is it )August 1-July 31)

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(Sept 1-August 31)