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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.
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The fact this stupid thread has gone on for 92 pages is sad. It really shows that some of ya’ll are focused on the wrong things and how lacking we are as a society.
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Anonymous wrote:How many kids in Dalton class? Does top 50% get into T30?


~100 kids per class. Nearly all go t-30. Most go higher, including the small colleges.
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.


So what's the percent for the top 20 national universities only? Even if half that, still more impressive than 5%.
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


I am new to this conversation and am curious on what public information was provided. The SF website only shows matriculations for a span of 3 years.
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Anonymous wrote:How many kids in Dalton class? Does top 50% get into T30?


~100 kids per class. Nearly all go t-30. Most go higher, including the small colleges.


That’s insane
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.


For Sidwell, ~44% of the c/o ‘23 attends T25 NATIONAL universities. I don’t know the percentage for T20, but if you want to quibble over 5 colleges, I’ll leave you to it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1170/1173827.page

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There are more than 104 kids in the class, so the data is incomplete. Also, at least 43% of kids at Sidwell are probably hooked or in the top 10-15% of the class by GPA.


There were 125 c/o ‘23 Sidwell graduates, and 104 posted (83%) on Instagram. Among the remaining 21 students who didn’t post, I personally know 4 students from that class who were admitted/currently attend Ivies. So, it’s very reasonable to assume that there are at least 10 additional students from that class attending T25 National Research Universities (4 Ivies, plus at least 6 other T25 universities). That would push the percentage to at least 44% (55/125).

So, the total percentage of Sidwell students attending T25 colleges AND universities from the c/o ‘23 is well over 50%.

I know many of you love to hate Sidwell, but you really should give credit where it’s due.
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.


For Sidwell, ~44% of the c/o ‘23 attends T25 NATIONAL universities. I don’t know the percentage for T20, but if you want to quibble over 5 colleges, I’ll leave you to it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1170/1173827.page

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There are more than 104 kids in the class, so the data is incomplete. Also, at least 43% of kids at Sidwell are probably hooked or in the top 10-15% of the class by GPA.


There were 125 c/o ‘23 Sidwell graduates, and 104 posted (83%) on Instagram. Among the remaining 21 students who didn’t post, I personally know 4 students from that class who were admitted/currently attend Ivies. So, it’s very reasonable to assume that there are at least 10 additional students from that class attending T25 National Research Universities (4 Ivies, plus at least 6 other T25 universities). That would push the percentage to at least 44% (55/125).

So, the total percentage of Sidwell students attending T25 colleges AND universities from the c/o ‘23 is well over 50%.

I know many of you love to hate Sidwell, but you really should give credit where it’s due.

Where is the proof? Where is the link to your cited numbers? Pulling numbers out of your a$$?
You clearly don't know what proof is?
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It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.


For Sidwell, ~44% of the c/o ‘23 attends T25 NATIONAL universities. I don’t know the percentage for T20, but if you want to quibble over 5 colleges, I’ll leave you to it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1170/1173827.page

Anonymous wrote:
There are more than 104 kids in the class, so the data is incomplete. Also, at least 43% of kids at Sidwell are probably hooked or in the top 10-15% of the class by GPA.


There were 125 c/o ‘23 Sidwell graduates, and 104 posted (83%) on Instagram. Among the remaining 21 students who didn’t post, I personally know 4 students from that class who were admitted/currently attend Ivies. So, it’s very reasonable to assume that there are at least 10 additional students from that class attending T25 National Research Universities (4 Ivies, plus at least 6 other T25 universities). That would push the percentage to at least 44% (55/125).

So, the total percentage of Sidwell students attending T25 colleges AND universities from the c/o ‘23 is well over 50%.

I know many of you love to hate Sidwell, but you really should give credit where it’s due.

Where is the proof? Where is the link to your cited numbers? Pulling numbers out of your a$$?
You clearly don't know what proof is?


Yeah, I am wondering about these numbers now. At first I thought there was some sort of proof, but apparently there isn't. Literally making stuff up it seems with the "very reasonable to assume that there are at least 10 additional from that class attending T25..." We all know what happens when you assume...

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National Cathedral School
https://www.instagram.com/cathedral2024/?igsh=MXU2MnAyczJqd3BucA%3D%3D

Sidwell Friends School (SFS)
https://www.instagram.com/sidwellseniors2024

DeMatha
https://www.instagram.com/dematha24seniors/

Maret
https://www.instagram.com/maretfrogs2024

Georgetown Day school (GDS)
https://www.instagram.com/gdsseniors2024

Holton Arms
https://www.instagram.com/holtonarms2024

Landon
https://www.instagram.com/landonseniors24

Potomac School
https://www.instagram.com/pmacdecisions2024/

Georgetown Visitation ("Visitation"/ "Visi")
https://www.instagram.com/v1s1collegedecisions2024/

Madeira
https://www.instagram.com/madeiradecisions24/

Washington International School ("WIS")
https://www.instagram.com/wisclassof2024/

Flint Hill
https://www.instagram.com/flinthilldecisions24

Edmund Burke
https://www.instagram.com/burkeseniors/

Field
https://www.instagram.com/fieldgrads.2024/

Bullis School
https://www.instagram.com/bullisseniors24/

Sandy Springs Friends School (SSFS)
https://www.instagram.com/ssfs24seniors

St. Stephens and St. Agnes School (DC)
https://www.instagram.com/sssasdecisions2024/

St. Andrews Episcopal School (SAES)
https://www.instagram.com/saes24decisions

Connelly School of the Holy Child (Holy Child)
https://www.instagram.com/hcseniors24

The Academy of the Holy Cross ("Holy Cross")
https://www.instagram.com/ahc_seniors24/

St. John’s College (high)
https://www.instagram.com/sjc2024seniors

The Heights
https://www.instagram.com/heights24.seniors

Oakcrest School (Vienna,VA)
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0r5TMhxQTo/?igsh=ZXFqZ3V0aWYzeXB0

Stone Ridge
https://www.instagram.com/srseniors24/

Waldorf (Note Waldorf Schools use one page for nation-wide)
https://www.instagram.com/waldorfdecisions24/?igsh=azNkaWkzM2treHNy

DeMatha:

https://www.instagram.com/dematha24seniors/

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Walt Whitman (Bethesda):
https://www.instagram.com/vikingdestinations2024/

Winston Churchill (Potomac):
https://www.instagram.com/beyondthebulldog2024/

Walter Johnson High School ("WJ")
https://www.instagram.com/wherethewildcatsgo24/

Thomas S. Wootton High School ("Wootton")
https://www.instagram.com/peaceoutpatriots24/

Bethesda Chevy Chase High School ("BCC")
https://www.instagram.com/bccdecisions_2024/

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Additional school(s) for informational context:

Dalton School (prestigious NYC school) added for perspective:
https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


DP. I’m not the person who posted about providing proof. I’m a DP who posted the link/page as a curtesy, and this is the thanks I get. Some of you people are so rude and uncouth!
It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.


For Sidwell, ~44% of the c/o ‘23 attends T25 NATIONAL universities. I don’t know the percentage for T20, but if you want to quibble over 5 colleges, I’ll leave you to it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1170/1173827.page

Anonymous wrote:
There are more than 104 kids in the class, so the data is incomplete. Also, at least 43% of kids at Sidwell are probably hooked or in the top 10-15% of the class by GPA.


There were 125 c/o ‘23 Sidwell graduates, and 104 posted (83%) on Instagram. Among the remaining 21 students who didn’t post, I personally know 4 students from that class who were admitted/currently attend Ivies. So, it’s very reasonable to assume that there are at least 10 additional students from that class attending T25 National Research Universities (4 Ivies, plus at least 6 other T25 universities). That would push the percentage to at least 44% (55/125).

So, the total percentage of Sidwell students attending T25 colleges AND universities from the c/o ‘23 is well over 50%.

I know many of you love to hate Sidwell, but you really should give credit where it’s due.

Where is the proof? Where is the link to your cited numbers? Pulling numbers out of your a$$?
You clearly don't know what proof is?
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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of W school students are going to T20 colleges?


It's like 5%.


PP here. I did the math a while ago. There are about 4,600 graduating seniors in the "Bethesda Area Schools." Last year about 250 matriculated to top 20 schools.

Schools included are Churchill, Whitman, Wootton, WJ, Blair, Einstein, BCC, Richard Montgomery


What!? Did you seriously sit down and figure this out? Oh my goodness. Listen I attended public high school so I won't diss publics more than I need to but anyone that can afford privates knows the difference. They are night and day. I have friends that were at these and fled to privates. I wish them well but seriously I would never give up my kids' private school education and experience from pre-k to graduating for public. I just would not.


Yes I did sit down to do it because many were claiming at the time that these publics had better outcomes than private schools. And that could very well be the case depending on the private school. But top private schools are more in the 20-25 percent range.


I’m not sure the data is directly comparable because private schools are selective by nature while public schools have to take everyone. Also, on average, private schools cater to wealthier families so even at top magnets, many high performing students will pick UMD or UVA over higher ranked private colleges and universities. These are typically kids from donut hole families who get little to no financial aid but for whom paying full freight is a lot of money especially if they have more than 1 kid


Then stop trying to compare W public schools (or whatever they’re called) to top DC private schools. You can’t have it both ways. The top publics in MD are sending 5% of their students to T20 colleges, while Big 3/5/7 are sending 25% or more. In Sidwell’s case, it’s more than 40%.

Try to be happy with your children’s free and adequate public schooling. Frequent comparison posts on the private school forum, like these, says you’re still struggling with that decision.


Please stop trying to quote percentages. It is so misleading! Of course the public school graduating class is way bigger so the percentage becomes way smaller. Let’s talk raw numbers and based on just raw numbers these schools have done very well. The only reason they came up was because the OP has listed college admission pages for both public and private schools and it’s quite impressive to see how well the kids are doing in public schools as well.


Do you hear yourself?!? Comparing raw numbers is stupid and definitely misleading. Comparing the T20 college admissions results of some public behemoth with 600 graduating seniors to STA’s 75 TOTAL graduating seniors makes sense to you? Is that what’s being taught at your neighborhood public?

I’ll stop quoting percentages when you stop trying to compare “top” public schools to top private schools. You can’t compete where you don’t compare.

Do you hear yourself!? Comparing percentage is stupid and definitely misleading because A) public school graduating class is way bigger, therefore the percentage will always be smaller ...
B) the vast majority of the public schools class doesn't even apply to the ivies or T20, so the percentage will always be wrong and misleading.

And you still haven't post the link for your Sidwell numbers.

DP



Yeah, you sound like you’ve received a free education. Look up the Sidwell information yourself, lazy.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your a$$
Get it


Sure, Jan. Just be happy with your little 5% and go. You’re clearly getting what you pay for.

Meanwhile you're getting an inferior product for what you pay.
Get it


You think 5% is greater than 40%, so ok…
Too bad you can’t afford private school tuition, a home in an “excellent” public school tuition, and tuition to the colleges of my children’s choice. Is that why you’re posting your angry, bitter diatribes on the private school forum?!?

It sucks to be you.

5% is better than any made-up 40%.


DP. Didn’t someone just say the proof is posted upthread. Are you really that lazy, public school parent?!?

If you saw that proof upthread, maybe you can repost it again?


Nope, I’m not looking through 92 pages to prove anything to you. It’s somewhere in this post/I saw it/find it yourself.


There is no proof. The 40% to top 20 schools cited by the PP for Sidwell is misleading as the PP defined it as top 20 for all national universities and liberal arts colleges. By this definition, all the DC privates send 40% of their kids to top 20 schools.


For Sidwell, ~44% of the c/o ‘23 attends T25 NATIONAL universities. I don’t know the percentage for T20, but if you want to quibble over 5 colleges, I’ll leave you to it.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1170/1173827.page

Anonymous wrote:
There are more than 104 kids in the class, so the data is incomplete. Also, at least 43% of kids at Sidwell are probably hooked or in the top 10-15% of the class by GPA.


There were 125 c/o ‘23 Sidwell graduates, and 104 posted (83%) on Instagram. Among the remaining 21 students who didn’t post, I personally know 4 students from that class who were admitted/currently attend Ivies. So, it’s very reasonable to assume that there are at least 10 additional students from that class attending T25 National Research Universities (4 Ivies, plus at least 6 other T25 universities). That would push the percentage to at least 44% (55/125).

So, the total percentage of Sidwell students attending T25 colleges AND universities from the c/o ‘23 is well over 50%.

I know many of you love to hate Sidwell, but you really should give credit where it’s due.

Where is the proof? Where is the link to your cited numbers? Pulling numbers out of your a$$?
You clearly don't know what proof is?


DP. I’m not the person who posted about providing proof. I’m a DP who posted the link/page as a curtesy, and this is the thanks I get. Some of you people are so rude and uncouth!
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