ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For Q3:4 players next year is a free year and you get a mulligan season in 26/27.

Example 25/26 2011 play U15 26/27 Q3/4 2011 play U15. Use this season to make sure your kids play a bunch and are ready for the Wild West tryouts next spring.

It’s going to be a SH#T SHOW!

Wait until ECNL kids get promised they are still going to be part of the ECNL pool of players only to play in the new RL league. ECNL has already said this new league is so clubs can optimize player potential and move players up or down week to week.

What this means is clubs will say everyone has a chance to be ECNL to get everyone’s money then let the sad losers complain after the check clears and it’s too late.

Don’t be a sucker! If clubs/coaches want your kid they will make sure you know it. Don’t fall for the definitely maybe game.

Is there a link for how the new RL league will work? Does this mean ECNL, ECN RL1, and ECNL RL2?

It’s ECNL and the ECRL for only ECNL clubs second teams. This is what they will use to manage rosters week by week for 26/27.
Then there is another ECRL league for clubs that are not a part of ECNL.
I would say it’s more ECNL is 1 and the others are 2/A and 2/B.

[Anonymous]

Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

[Anonymous]

I saw my first ECNL hat in the wild today! [Physical hat. Not sure of associated behavior]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Ooof. That is a recipe for failure. The last time they did the age group switch, the teams that tried to stay together (except for some U18/19) all failed and just re-formed the next year under the new age guidelines. A year late, and missing multiple players who left. I really thought clubs would at least remember that one lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw my first ECNL hat in the wild today! [Physical hat. Not sure of associated behavior]

I've seen a few bumper stickers which I somehow feel is worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw my first ECNL hat in the wild today! [Physical hat. Not sure of associated behavior]

I've seen a few bumper stickers which I somehow feel is worse.

Very weird people

[Anonymous]

U11 Tryouts are over and my daughters Pre-ECNL team made 1 pick up and it was not a q4 player.

The year older team 1 moves to 11v11 next year (u12 tryouts) picked up 2 players - both were girls that would stay with the team and not move down an age group next year (so not q4s).

At the established age groups this will be normal next year too. Coaches picking the best players not looking at birthdates. First team players development over the next year will outpace second teams (not always but in most cases) so expect very few changes for next year beyond the normal tryout shifts.

There will be a movement on NL teams pushing their q4s down to the team below and keeping the q4 impact players up.

2017 and 2018 and next years 2019 teams will see a shift in how teams are picked. Benefitting q4s.

All other ages …it will be 95% just a shuffle down to the same level the age group below.

Can’t wait for the “NOT trues” in my one instance. BC of course. This is generally how it will go. Standout players will always rise to the top. But for most RL players who don’t put in extra work, the younger NL team will likely still be stronger ….in most cases. We beat our year older RL team 5-1 last week.

Her team is a top 5 team in the state. We have a strong NL team in every age group and not as strong RL.

There aren’t any crazy transitions happening. Clubs are just looking to pick the best players who show up and crush tryouts. Not looking at your birthday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Ooof. That is a recipe for failure. The last time they did the age group switch, the teams that tried to stay together (except for some U18/19) all failed and just re-formed the next year under the new age guidelines. A year late, and missing multiple players who left. I really thought clubs would at least remember that one lesson.

Maybe not ... It's a different switch this time, one fewer month AND the bulk of players who can move (SeptQ4) are fewer in number, especially the older you go. Also, last time, players on existing teams were forced to switch, because no one could go down to stay with their team, further lessening available players on existing teams. This time, the players can still play up and stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U11 Tryouts are over and my daughters Pre-ECNL team made 1 pick up and it was not a q4 player.

The year older team 1 moves to 11v11 next year (u12 tryouts) picked up 2 players - both were girls that would stay with the team and not move down an age group next year (so not q4s).

At the established age groups this will be normal next year too. Coaches picking the best players not looking at birthdates. First team players development over the next year will outpace second teams (not always but in most cases) so expect very few changes for next year beyond the normal tryout shifts.

There will be a movement on NL teams pushing their q4s down to the team below and keeping the q4 impact players up.

2017 and 2018 and next years 2019 teams will see a shift in how teams are picked. Benefitting q4s.

All other ages …it will be 95% just a shuffle down to the same level the age group below.

Can’t wait for the “NOT trues” in my one instance. BC of course. This is generally how it will go. Standout players will always rise to the top. But for most RL players who don’t put in extra work, the younger NL team will likely still be stronger ….in most cases. We beat our year older RL team 5-1 last week.

Her team is a top 5 team in the state. We have a strong NL team in every age group and not as strong RL.

There aren’t any crazy transitions happening. Clubs are just looking to pick the best players who show up and crush tryouts. Not looking at your birthday.

You clearly were not around for the last time the age groups changed lol. But hey, you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Ooof. That is a recipe for failure. The last time they did the age group switch, the teams that tried to stay together (except for some U18/19) all failed and just re-formed the next year under the new age guidelines. A year late, and missing multiple players who left. I really thought clubs would at least remember that one lesson.

Maybe not ... It's a different switch this time, one fewer month AND the bulk of players who can move (SeptQ4) are fewer in number, especially the older you go. Also, last time, players on existing teams were forced to switch, because no one could go down to stay with their team, further lessening available players on existing teams. This time, the players can still play up and stay.

Last time plenty of teams tried to play ‘up’ to avoid the change and stay together. Your logic on that is just completely wrong.

Also, why do you just think it is just Sept q4 players? Oct, nov, dec don’t count?

I don’t think you understand how this works at all.

[Anonymous]

lol like what do people think will happen. Like please explain how the NL teams will change drastically? Sept+q4(clearly what that person meant) that Play RL now and just got picked to play RL again yesterday. Will likely get picked to play RL again next year unless they put in extra work. The younger NL players are better today than the year older RL players 99% of the time. Don’t have to have been around for the last change. I was there last weekend when we beat the older RL team 5-1. We’l pick up 3 girls from our NL team and our 2 q4 players will be ballers on the younger the team. This is major wishful thinking that there is some new advantage to be on an older RL team vs an NL team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Not sure if you missed my post but that’s exactly what clubs are going to say and behind the scenes add Q3/4 and let the season play out to find out who’s the better players.

Very ignorant thinking to assume your club or any others are not going to add new players that tryout… especially if they are going to help the team win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U11 Tryouts are over and my daughters Pre-ECNL team made 1 pick up and it was not a q4 player.

The year older team 1 moves to 11v11 next year (u12 tryouts) picked up 2 players - both were girls that would stay with the team and not move down an age group next year (so not q4s).

At the established age groups this will be normal next year too. Coaches picking the best players not looking at birthdates. First team players development over the next year will outpace second teams (not always but in most cases) so expect very few changes for next year beyond the normal tryout shifts.

There will be a movement on NL teams pushing their q4s down to the team below and keeping the q4 impact players up.

2017 and 2018 and next years 2019 teams will see a shift in how teams are picked. Benefitting q4s.

All other ages …it will be 95% just a shuffle down to the same level the age group below.

Can’t wait for the “NOT trues” in my one instance. BC of course. This is generally how it will go. Standout players will always rise to the top. But for most RL players who don’t put in extra work, the younger NL team will likely still be stronger ….in most cases. We beat our year older RL team 5-1 last week.

Her team is a top 5 team in the state. We have a strong NL team in every age group and not as strong RL.

There aren’t any crazy transitions happening. Clubs are just looking to pick the best players who show up and crush tryouts. Not looking at your birthday.

My own experience from last time, as a coach, was that the impact curve of the change was a bell curve.

So nothing at u8 (they were brand new), quickly rising with a peak in impacts at u12/13 and then a steady and steep decline in impacts.

Also if you don’t think coaches look at birthdays, then I’m not sure what to tell you. Of course they do. It is a data point. They will use it just like any other piece of data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:lol like what do people think will happen. Like please explain how the NL teams will change drastically? Sept+q4(clearly what that person meant) that Play RL now and just got picked to play RL again yesterday. Will likely get picked to play RL again next year unless they put in extra work. The younger NL players are better today than the year older RL players 99% of the time. Don’t have to have been around for the last change. I was there last weekend when we beat the older RL team 5-1. We’l pick up 3 girls from our NL team and our 2 q4 players will be ballers on the younger the team. This is major wishful thinking that there is some new advantage to be on an older RL team vs an NL team.

You’re just guessing just like anyone saying the q3/4 players are better. I think there is going to be some trial and error which is why ECNL made sure to make a true RL league that will help clubs move kids around.

But in my experience most teams that are nationally ranked 2012 that play up get beat or tie or barely win over 2011s with drastically lower rankings.

Example Mustang 2012 ECNL ranked CA 4th and nationally 10th lost 3-1 to Ajax NPL 2011 ranked CA 23rd and Nationally 121.

Obviously this is just one data point but there is a big difference when you play up a year. The game is faster and more physical.

[Anonymous]

Hey guys let’s do something really fun. Let’s take these RL players who are worse than our current players and put them on the first team and cut our ballers who are younger by 5 months bc looking at their birthdays (as us coaches do) they are older and this matters.

Lol nope.