ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My main concern is how our ECNL club handles our Q4 starter. Allow her to play up with the team she has been on for years and force down to play with a totally different group of kids that might not be as strong of a team.

I get it. But the last time the switch happened, teams that decided to ‘stay together’ failed and ultimately just reformed the next year (minus losing players because of the mess).

I think clubs have learned from that…

[Anonymous]

I talked to club director at tryouts and he doesnt want to deal with any of it. He thinks parents are going to rage. People have paid for spots hansomly in privates and gifts and dont want to lose them. They have thier hooks in deep with clubs & non profits. Its going to get ugly for clubs who make ANY changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My main concern is how our ECNL club handles our Q4 starter. Allow her to play up with the team she has been on for years and force down to play with a totally different group of kids that might not be as strong of a team.

Expect to lose time. I know some coaches who dont want to invest in a player who will be gone in 6 months anyway. They know they need replcements ASAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My main concern is how our ECNL club handles our Q4 starter. Allow her to play up with the team she has been on for years and force down to play with a totally different group of kids that might not be as strong of a team.

Expect to lose time. I know some coaches who dont want to invest in a player who will be gone in 6 months anyway. They know they need replcements ASAP.

I would think good coaches would want to invest in these players so they stay with the club. It wouldn't make sense to push them away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My main concern is how our ECNL club handles our Q4 starter. Allow her to play up with the team she has been on for years and force down to play with a totally different group of kids that might not be as strong of a team.

In the same boat with an Oct 13 who plays in the NA pre-ECNL league and is one of the best players on the current team. In our case though, the younger team might have more talent (relatively at least).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Q3:4 players next year is a free year and you get a mulligan season in 26/27.

Example 25/26 2011 play U15 26/27 Q3/4 2011 play U15. Use this season to make sure your kids play a bunch and are ready for the Wild West tryouts next spring.

It’s going to be a SH#T SHOW!

Wait until ECNL kids get promised they are still going to be part of the ECNL pool of players only to play in the new RL league. ECNL has already said this new league is so clubs can optimize player potential and move players up or down week to week.

What this means is clubs will say everyone has a chance to be ECNL to get everyone’s money then let the sad losers complain after the check clears and it’s too late.

Don’t be a sucker! If clubs/coaches want your kid they will make sure you know it. Don’t fall for the definitely maybe game.

Is there a link for how the new RL league will work? Does this mean ECNL, ECN RL1, and ECNL RL2?

It’s ECNL and the ECRL for only ECNL clubs second teams. This is what they will use to manage rosters week by week for 26/27.
Then there is another ECRL league for clubs that are not a part of ECNL.
I would say it’s more ECNL is 1 and the others are 2/A and 2/B.

[Anonymous]

Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

[Anonymous]

I saw my first ECNL hat in the wild today! [Physical hat. Not sure of associated behavior]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Ooof. That is a recipe for failure. The last time they did the age group switch, the teams that tried to stay together (except for some U18/19) all failed and just re-formed the next year under the new age guidelines. A year late, and missing multiple players who left. I really thought clubs would at least remember that one lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw my first ECNL hat in the wild today! [Physical hat. Not sure of associated behavior]

I've seen a few bumper stickers which I somehow feel is worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw my first ECNL hat in the wild today! [Physical hat. Not sure of associated behavior]

I've seen a few bumper stickers which I somehow feel is worse.

Very weird people

[Anonymous]

U11 Tryouts are over and my daughters Pre-ECNL team made 1 pick up and it was not a q4 player.

The year older team 1 moves to 11v11 next year (u12 tryouts) picked up 2 players - both were girls that would stay with the team and not move down an age group next year (so not q4s).

At the established age groups this will be normal next year too. Coaches picking the best players not looking at birthdates. First team players development over the next year will outpace second teams (not always but in most cases) so expect very few changes for next year beyond the normal tryout shifts.

There will be a movement on NL teams pushing their q4s down to the team below and keeping the q4 impact players up.

2017 and 2018 and next years 2019 teams will see a shift in how teams are picked. Benefitting q4s.

All other ages …it will be 95% just a shuffle down to the same level the age group below.

Can’t wait for the “NOT trues” in my one instance. BC of course. This is generally how it will go. Standout players will always rise to the top. But for most RL players who don’t put in extra work, the younger NL team will likely still be stronger ….in most cases. We beat our year older RL team 5-1 last week.

Her team is a top 5 team in the state. We have a strong NL team in every age group and not as strong RL.

There aren’t any crazy transitions happening. Clubs are just looking to pick the best players who show up and crush tryouts. Not looking at your birthday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Ooof. That is a recipe for failure. The last time they did the age group switch, the teams that tried to stay together (except for some U18/19) all failed and just re-formed the next year under the new age guidelines. A year late, and missing multiple players who left. I really thought clubs would at least remember that one lesson.

Maybe not ... It's a different switch this time, one fewer month AND the bulk of players who can move (SeptQ4) are fewer in number, especially the older you go. Also, last time, players on existing teams were forced to switch, because no one could go down to stay with their team, further lessening available players on existing teams. This time, the players can still play up and stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U11 Tryouts are over and my daughters Pre-ECNL team made 1 pick up and it was not a q4 player.

The year older team 1 moves to 11v11 next year (u12 tryouts) picked up 2 players - both were girls that would stay with the team and not move down an age group next year (so not q4s).

At the established age groups this will be normal next year too. Coaches picking the best players not looking at birthdates. First team players development over the next year will outpace second teams (not always but in most cases) so expect very few changes for next year beyond the normal tryout shifts.

There will be a movement on NL teams pushing their q4s down to the team below and keeping the q4 impact players up.

2017 and 2018 and next years 2019 teams will see a shift in how teams are picked. Benefitting q4s.

All other ages …it will be 95% just a shuffle down to the same level the age group below.

Can’t wait for the “NOT trues” in my one instance. BC of course. This is generally how it will go. Standout players will always rise to the top. But for most RL players who don’t put in extra work, the younger NL team will likely still be stronger ….in most cases. We beat our year older RL team 5-1 last week.

Her team is a top 5 team in the state. We have a strong NL team in every age group and not as strong RL.

There aren’t any crazy transitions happening. Clubs are just looking to pick the best players who show up and crush tryouts. Not looking at your birthday.

You clearly were not around for the last time the age groups changed lol. But hey, you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where I am from (flyover country), the elite clubs, both GA and ECNL, are stating that they are trying to keep current teams together to the best of their ability and making the major changes with U-little. Of course kids/parents can opt out if they have a younger but clubs seem to be valuing continuity over strict adherence to rules.

Ooof. That is a recipe for failure. The last time they did the age group switch, the teams that tried to stay together (except for some U18/19) all failed and just re-formed the next year under the new age guidelines. A year late, and missing multiple players who left. I really thought clubs would at least remember that one lesson.

Maybe not ... It's a different switch this time, one fewer month AND the bulk of players who can move (SeptQ4) are fewer in number, especially the older you go. Also, last time, players on existing teams were forced to switch, because no one could go down to stay with their team, further lessening available players on existing teams. This time, the players can still play up and stay.

Last time plenty of teams tried to play ‘up’ to avoid the change and stay together. Your logic on that is just completely wrong.

Also, why do you just think it is just Sept q4 players? Oct, nov, dec don’t count?

I don’t think you understand how this works at all.