Is this snarky?

Anonymous
My cousin and his wife live out west and are coming out here to do a baptism for their son at his parent's church. I think this is totally lame. I know for a fact that they don't go to church and aren't intending to raise their child in a church. And I know that my aunt is not forcing this on them - it was their idea. I believe that the point of a baptism is for the parents and the church to commit to helping to raise a child - hard to do from hundreds of miles away. Plus that is what the service at the church will be - that's not just my opinion. Anyway, I'll go and I am excited to see them, but about the gift - I really think I"m going to bring a traditional baptism present, i.e. a "my first bible" or noah's ark book or something like that.

Do you think that's really snarky - to bring a religious themed gift when I know they aren't religious? I think they're hoping for money and more mainstream gifts (toys, clothes, etc.)?
Anonymous
How about a first bible and money for her education?
Anonymous
I don't understand why you think it would be snarky, unless you are giving a bible BECAUSE you know they don't want it (in which case, yes, that's snarky).

Or if your question is about your general attitude, then yes, that's snarky too.
Anonymous
You are such a jerk! First, who are you to pass judgment on what religious rites mean to other people? Second, I think it's pretty common for people to get their children baptized in the grandparents' church. At least in my extended family it is. Third, and perhaps most importantly, why can't you just look at this as a nice opportunity to celebrate a new member of your family? If they live out West, you probably haven't spent much time with the baby. This baptism might end up being important to the baby some day, and you are crapping on it for no good reason.

Sorry to rant, but this is a touchy subject for me. My ex-hippy parents didn't baptise me, but I would like to baptise my DD and give her at least some connection to a church. This is proving hard to navigate due to the fact that I'm not baptised.
Anonymous
Your attitude sucks. Does anybody really bank on a baptism for presents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You are such a jerk! First, who are you to pass judgment on what religious rites mean to other people? Second, I think it's pretty common for people to get their children baptized in the grandparents' church. At least in my extended family it is. Third, and perhaps most importantly, why can't you just look at this as a nice opportunity to celebrate a new member of your family? If they live out West, you probably haven't spent much time with the baby. This baptism might end up being important to the baby some day, and you are crapping on it for no good reason.

Sorry to rant, but this is a touchy subject for me. My ex-hippy parents didn't baptise me, but I would like to baptise my DD and give her at least some connection to a church. This is proving hard to navigate due to the fact that I'm not baptised.


What? Aren't churches supposed to be welcoming to new members?
Anonymous
Yes, give a children's bible! If you are religious, you can see this as an opportunity to welcome them and the child into the faith. I think plenty of young childless couples don't practice their religion because they are busy building careers and maybe rebelling against their parents, and they don't feel a "need" for it, but they become open to faith when they have children. Welcome them!
Anonymous
OP's attitude is what's snarky. Please don't go if you're going to act the way your post sounds.
Anonymous
The present is not snarky, but you are. If you need a passive-agressive way to communicate to them how you feel, you need to find a more nasty way to rub it in.


Anonymous
Yes, OP, it is snarky. Not because of the gift, but because your intentions are clear. Are you jealous of your cousin and his wife for some reason? Sheesh. Happy to see them, my ass.
Anonymous
This thread is a riot.
People are yelling: give a children's bible! Yes you are snarky!
lol.
Anonymous
I think you should get them a giant cross to hang in the baby's room. My husband's family did that and it gave us lots to laugh about.
Anonymous
OP, MYOB. Unless they are converting religions for self serving benefits, who the hell (pun intended) cares?

If you don't want to get them something, don't other. Your heart is not in it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are such a jerk! First, who are you to pass judgment on what religious rites mean to other people? Second, I think it's pretty common for people to get their children baptized in the grandparents' church. At least in my extended family it is. Third, and perhaps most importantly, why can't you just look at this as a nice opportunity to celebrate a new member of your family? If they live out West, you probably haven't spent much time with the baby. This baptism might end up being important to the baby some day, and you are crapping on it for no good reason.

Sorry to rant, but this is a touchy subject for me. My ex-hippy parents didn't baptise me, but I would like to baptise my DD and give her at least some connection to a church. This is proving hard to navigate due to the fact that I'm not baptised.


What? Aren't churches supposed to be welcoming to new members?


I think it's fine to give a religious gift. To the poster I quoted above, if you believe in Jesus Christ and want to raise your child in the church, just start going to church. Congregations vary, but most will baptize your child if you become a member, some may require you to get baptized in order to baptize your child. After years of not going ot church, I recently started "church shopping" and joined a church. I want to get to know the Congregation better, but I will probebly have my DS baptized there.... even though no on in my extended family is connected to this particular church.
Anonymous
How is this different from people who go to church mainly to socialize? These are the very same people who use religion to their advantage and are mean and judgmental? Are they any more religious than the next person? Hardly.
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