"Without mitigation, they predict that 80% of elementary students will be infected within 2 months"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. Eye opening twitter thread, thanks for posting OP.

Sent from Texas... school started back today, illegal to mandate masks.

Makes me glad my kid's school is mandating masks, and teachers and staff have to be vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/denise_dewald/status/1426318478861013001?s=19

I'm not really comforted by "the kids will probably be ok" arguments. Why is that being accepted??

Because as long as you are alive you make risk assessments.

The same way we let our kids get on the school bus even though a few die in bus accidents every year.

The same way we get in our cars and drive to work or to grandma's house for Thanksgiving or to Target even though 38,000 people die in car accidents in the U.S. Millions more are hospitalized from those accidents.

I don't think my neighbor has left her house except to walk or take a quick drive around the neighborhood for some fresh air and a change of scenery since March 2020. She has judged the risk to herself and her household tp be high enough that not going anywhere makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/denise_dewald/status/1426318478861013001?s=19

I'm not really comforted by "the kids will probably be ok" arguments. Why is that being accepted??

Because as long as you are alive you make risk assessments.

The same way we let our kids get on the school bus even though a few die in bus accidents every year.

The same way we get in our cars and drive to work or to grandma's house for Thanksgiving or to Target even though 38,000 people die in car accidents in the U.S. Millions more are hospitalized from those accidents.

I don't think my neighbor has left her house except to walk or take a quick drive around the neighborhood for some fresh air and a change of scenery since March 2020. She has judged the risk to herself and her household tp be high enough that not going anywhere makes sense.

I don't want to go down the side path, but I think we take unreasonable risks with some of the trucks on our roads and wish we'd value human life more.

For risk, I'm not just looking at deaths, which seems to be the only measure some people are looking at. I just don't think we know the long term effects of this disease and there are indications that it may not be so simple/short. My kids have long lives in front of them so any long term impact is a really big deal to me.

[Anonymous]

I wish parents could just choose if they want online or in person. My kid needs to be in person. I am willing to risk it. Some kids don’t and some parents aren’t and it ok too.
I am just tired of all the hand wringing. Assess your risks and benefits and do what needs to be done

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/denise_dewald/status/1426318478861013001?s=19

I'm not really comforted by "the kids will probably be ok" arguments. Why is that being accepted??

Because as long as you are alive you make risk assessments.

The same way we let our kids get on the school bus even though a few die in bus accidents every year.

The same way we get in our cars and drive to work or to grandma's house for Thanksgiving or to Target even though 38,000 people die in car accidents in the U.S. Millions more are hospitalized from those accidents.

I don't think my neighbor has left her house except to walk or take a quick drive around the neighborhood for some fresh air and a change of scenery since March 2020. She has judged the risk to herself and her household tp be high enough that not going anywhere makes sense.

I don't want to go down the side path, but I think we take unreasonable risks with some of the trucks on our roads and wish we'd value human life more.

For risk, I'm not just looking at deaths, which seems to be the only measure some people are looking at. I just don't think we know the long term effects of this disease and there are indications that it may not be so simple/short. My kids have long lives in front of them so any long term impact is a really big deal to me.

And people are disabled in car accidents and other accidents (falls, factory mishaps etc.) People lose hands, legs, eyes. They are confined to wheelchairs for the rest of their days.

Hell, kids risk death/permanent injury from participating in sports, and we parents sign those "I know my kid could die/become paralyzed" forms every year and order cleats anyway.

Cheerleading is particularly dangerous

Cheerleaders incur two-thirds of all catastrophic injuries to female athletes in high school and college. As cheerleading’s popularity soared over the last 20 years, so have the number of cheerleaders in the hospital. According to the National Electronic Injury Surveillance Survey, emergency room visits increased 110 percent from 1990 to 2002. In 2007 alone, almost 27,000 cheerleaders ended up in the ER, one in six for head or neck injuries. http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201112/beyond-beauty-cheerleading-terrifying-danger

Football is also very dangerous. Some parents have decided their children will never play due to the risk, and I recall one player retiring because he was some kind of STEM major and decided his brain was too important.

The risk is your own to assess for you and your children. I wouldn't want a child of mine doing cheerleading or football, but lacrosse and basketball are fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:delta is only 50% more transmissible than the variant circulating last year when vaccination rates were low and our school was back at around 2/3 the total student body, with normal class sizes. There were 2 cases and zero spread in school afaik. I don’t think this model is correct.

I don’t think you understand 50% more means.

What schools had normal class sizes during the 2020-3021 school year?

It really DID feel that long!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's been 310 hospitalizations of kids ages 0 to 9 since February 2020 (since pandemic started) in the whole state of Virginia.

It's going to be ok.

36,403 cases (0-9)

310 hospitalizations (0-9)

2 deaths (0-9)

Thus, death rate for ages 0-9 was 0.005%. Or roughly 1 in 18,000

ok but assuming these numbers are correct..that means hospitalization rate was .9%. That is almost 1 out of every hundred ending up in the hospital.

1 in 100 people with bronchitis, RSV, flu, chicken pox, all kinds of things probably end up in the hospital.

False

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/denise_dewald/status/1426318478861013001?s=19

I'm not really comforted by "the kids will probably be ok" arguments. Why is that being accepted??

Because as long as you are alive you make risk assessments.

The same way we let our kids get on the school bus even though a few die in bus accidents every year.

The same way we get in our cars and drive to work or to grandma's house for Thanksgiving or to Target even though 38,000 people die in car accidents in the U.S. Millions more are hospitalized from those accidents.

I don't think my neighbor has left her house except to walk or take a quick drive around the neighborhood for some fresh air and a change of scenery since March 2020. She has judged the risk to herself and her household tp be high enough that not going anywhere makes sense.

+1. My kids have been back in daycare since last summer, my rising kindergartener’s daycare class is essentially the same size as her upcoming kindergarten class. It’s been fine, and yes I’m aware they could catch covid. But it’s all about balancing risks/benefits and the benefit of in person school outweighs the covid risk for us.

This is also one of those times that I am grateful to live in MoCo- there are times where I felt the pandemic response and level of cautiousness was OTT. But because of that, we never had the type of surge last winter that other areas did, and the vaccination rate is very high. Masks are NBD, the kids all wear them already.

[Anonymous]

They will get natural immunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t care if my kid gets Covid. They’ll be fine. I actually expect them to. They need to be in school.

What if they get something else and there is no hospital capacity available to help them?

What if the infect a lot of other people with this illness?

DP. +1 to the bold.

Scientists right now are concerned about the potential even for vaccinated adults/teens to get infected with Delta, have few or no symptoms, but also infect others with Delta who are unvaccinated/cannot be vaccinated and who will get very ill.

Clearly children who are too young to be vaccinated are potential carriers and spreaders, even if-- like this oh so optimistic parent above believes--they themselves end up fine.

I'm amazed at the adults who shrug and say "My kid will be fine, I expect my kid to get it" who have ZERO consideration of the larger health implications for their family members and their community as a whole.

"MY child will be fine." Lovely. Risk your own kid's health. Your prerogative. But it doesn't begin and end with your kid. If your kid gives the virus to you, a vaccinated adult, and you too are OK but pass it on--and it goes on and on -- that's how we never get past this. But posters like that PP won't know, and would not care if they did know, if their kid's infection ended up, several transmissions down the line, killing someone they'll never know about. Just does not matter to them. Their ignorance of public health is staggering and their lack of concern for those they won't ever meet is appalling. They don't want to see that they live in a world larger than their families.

Wake up. We're not going to get "past this." Covid is, and will, be endemic. We're all going get vaccinated, or contract the virus and develop natural immunity, or both (most likely both).

Kids have lower mortality than vaccinated adults. Unless they have a condition that makes them susceptible, they are better off contracting the virus, and developing immunity, earlier in life, rather than later.

I've been predicting for months that getting a combo flu/covid seasonal vaccine will become the norm in a few years. The tough thing is COVID-19 is much less seasonal than the flu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's been 310 hospitalizations of kids ages 0 to 9 since February 2020 (since pandemic started) in the whole state of Virginia.

It's going to be ok.

36,403 cases (0-9)

310 hospitalizations (0-9)

2 deaths (0-9)

Thus, death rate for ages 0-9 was 0.005%. Or roughly 1 in 18,000

ok but assuming these numbers are correct..that means hospitalization rate was .9%. That is almost 1 out of every hundred ending up in the hospital.

1 in 100 people with bronchitis, RSV, flu, chicken pox, all kinds of things probably end up in the hospital.

False

Try 1 in 1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously you all, if COVID gets bad at schools, the health department or mayor or governor wherever you live reading this is gonna shut that S down.

but by then it will be too late

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will get natural immunity.

Sure, but over 600k Americans have already died. At what cost?

[Anonymous]

My only concern is epigenetics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously you all, if COVID gets bad at schools, the health department or mayor or governor wherever you live reading this is gonna shut that S down.

but by then it will be too late

So keep you kid home.