Prestige colleges

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What about UCF?

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Anonymous wrote:What about UCF?

What's UCF?

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Anonymous wrote:What about UCF?

What's UCF?

Probably Univ of Central Florida.


Is UCF a "prestige college"? Of course not. Really, no public college should be.

Public schools are supposed to prepare students for the work place and to otherwise serve the interests of the society. Citizen's of a state aren't interested in having their tax dollars support a college system that does anything more than prepare students to improve the communities of the state. If in reaching that goal some people decide that makes the school a "prestige college", that's fine, but that is never the goal.

For example-- I attended Berkeley. It's a great school. But I would never say that it is a "prestige college". There are prestigious professors there, but the school in general is not aiming for the world of DCUM to deem it a "prestige college". That's not it's raison d'etre. It's an amazing public research university, not a prestige college.

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin and UVA are peer institutions. Fighting over which one is better is stupid.

Lol no, UVA is much more selective

UVA may be more selective, but I don't think employers or graduate schools are going to distinguish between the graduates for the most part. The exception might be for UVA McIntire.

And therein lies the difference. You will noted as probably being smarter and more accomplished for being admitted to and graduating from a place like MIT. That distinction will not usually be made for these two schools.

And in my view I see UVA students as smarter than Wisconsin students. Prestige is relative.

There will be many, many Wisconsin students that are at the same level.

More like a handful but whatever. Wisconsin is just a tier below top publics, no getting around it.

Handful? Of those incoming enrolled students that submitted the SAT, 57% of UVA first years have composite SAT scores in the 1400-1600 range vs 43% at Wisconsin. If you consider Wisconsin has an incoming class of about 7,300 vs. 3,771, there are certainly far more than a handful in the same range.

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin and UVA are peer institutions. Fighting over which one is better is stupid.

Lol no, UVA is much more selective

UVA may be more selective, but I don't think employers or graduate schools are going to distinguish between the graduates for the most part. The exception might be for UVA McIntire.

And therein lies the difference. You will noted as probably being smarter and more accomplished for being admitted to and graduating from a place like MIT. That distinction will not usually be made for these two schools.

And in my view I see UVA students as smarter than Wisconsin students. Prestige is relative.

There will be many, many Wisconsin students that are at the same level.

More like a handful but whatever. Wisconsin is just a tier below top publics, no getting around it.

Handful? Of those incoming enrolled students that submitted the SAT, 57% of UVA first years have composite SAT scores in the 1400-1600 range vs 43% at Wisconsin. If you consider Wisconsin has an incoming class of about 7,300 vs. 3,771, there are certainly far more than a handful in the same range.

Such a disingenuous use of statistics, but I’d expect nothing less from a Wisconsin booster.

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Anonymous wrote:What about UCF?

What's UCF?

Probably Univ of Central Florida.


Is UCF a "prestige college"? Of course not. Really, no public college should be.

Public schools are supposed to prepare students for the work place and to otherwise serve the interests of the society. Citizen's of a state aren't interested in having their tax dollars support a college system that does anything more than prepare students to improve the communities of the state. If in reaching that goal some people decide that makes the school a "prestige college", that's fine, but that is never the goal.

For example-- I attended Berkeley. It's a great school. But I would never say that it is a "prestige college". There are prestigious professors there, but the school in general is not aiming for the world of DCUM to deem it a "prestige college". That's not it's raison d'etre. It's an amazing public research university, not a prestige college.

That’s a shame. In other countries all the prestigious colleges are public.

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Anonymous wrote:What about UCF?

What's UCF?

Probably Univ of Central Florida.


Is UCF a "prestige college"? Of course not. Really, no public college should be.

Public schools are supposed to prepare students for the work place and to otherwise serve the interests of the society. Citizen's of a state aren't interested in having their tax dollars support a college system that does anything more than prepare students to improve the communities of the state. If in reaching that goal some people decide that makes the school a "prestige college", that's fine, but that is never the goal.

For example-- I attended Berkeley. It's a great school. But I would never say that it is a "prestige college". There are prestigious professors there, but the school in general is not aiming for the world of DCUM to deem it a "prestige college". That's not it's raison d'etre. It's an amazing public research university, not a prestige college.

That’s a shame. In other countries all the prestigious colleges are public.

Yes it is a "prestige college." Of course it is.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about UCF?

What's UCF?

Probably Univ of Central Florida.


Is UCF a "prestige college"? Of course not. Really, no public college should be.

Public schools are supposed to prepare students for the work place and to otherwise serve the interests of the society. Citizen's of a state aren't interested in having their tax dollars support a college system that does anything more than prepare students to improve the communities of the state. If in reaching that goal some people decide that makes the school a "prestige college", that's fine, but that is never the goal.

For example-- I attended Berkeley. It's a great school. But I would never say that it is a "prestige college". There are prestigious professors there, but the school in general is not aiming for the world of DCUM to deem it a "prestige college". That's not it's raison d'etre. It's an amazing public research university, not a prestige college.

That’s a shame. In other countries all the prestigious colleges are public.

Yes it is a "prestige college." Of course it is.

Which college?

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin and UVA are peer institutions. Fighting over which one is better is stupid.

Lol no, UVA is much more selective

UVA may be more selective, but I don't think employers or graduate schools are going to distinguish between the graduates for the most part. The exception might be for UVA McIntire.

And therein lies the difference. You will noted as probably being smarter and more accomplished for being admitted to and graduating from a place like MIT. That distinction will not usually be made for these two schools.

And in my view I see UVA students as smarter than Wisconsin students. Prestige is relative.

There will be many, many Wisconsin students that are at the same level.

More like a handful but whatever. Wisconsin is just a tier below top publics, no getting around it.

Handful? Of those incoming enrolled students that submitted the SAT, 57% of UVA first years have composite SAT scores in the 1400-1600 range vs 43% at Wisconsin. If you consider Wisconsin has an incoming class of about 7,300 vs. 3,771, there are certainly far more than a handful in the same range.

Such a disingenuous use of statistics, but I’d expect nothing less from a Wisconsin booster.

Resorting to the ad hominem attack because you have nothing else?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an HYPS grad and the only schools worth the premium (i.e. I would send my kid to) are the Ivies, Chicago, Duke, Stanford, Northwestern, MIT, Hopkins, Amherst, or Williams. Caltech and Harvey Mudd if they're engineers. These are the only true "prestige colleges" in America.

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The correct word is “prestigious.”

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Anonymous wrote:The correct word is “prestigious.”

That was my first thought-- but then I figured it was a reference to someone being a "prestige whore" (which is different than being a "prestigious whore").


So a college that values prestige rather than a college that actually is prestigious. Berkeley is a prestigious school, but it doesn't especially value prestige.

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Truth be told it's more embarrassing for your child to get into a prestige college and then fail to capitalize.

A parent's social orbit is far more impressed with the state school software engineer kid who makes a bundle at some tech firm or got into a MD program than the Ivy-Duke-Stanford-etc. kid who makes $45,000 a year at a random 9 to 5. Parents do talk s*** behind your back when they feel you put on a production after your kid got into a prestige college and then they landed in the same boring mediocre career open to any state school grad.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an HYPS grad and the only schools worth the premium (i.e. I would send my kid to) are the Ivies, Chicago, Duke, Stanford, Northwestern, MIT, Hopkins, Amherst, or Williams. Caltech and Harvey Mudd if they're engineers. These are the only true "prestige colleges" in America.

Thanks for popping in College Confidential helicopter mom nutbag who's obsessively studied the US News rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth be told it's more embarrassing for your child to get into a prestige college and then fail to capitalize.

A parent's social orbit is far more impressed with the state school software engineer kid who makes a bundle at some tech firm or got into a MD program than the Ivy-Duke-Stanford-etc. kid who makes $45,000 a year at a random 9 to 5. Parents do talk s*** behind your back when they feel you put on a production after your kid got into a prestige college and then they landed in the same boring mediocre career open to any state school grad.

Who cares?