Two of my kids’ 3 teachers won’t be in tomorrow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So even if we had concerns about our own safety or APS handling of mitigation, you are mad that we weren’t pushing for in person. Your ire is in the wrong place. This virus is more contagious among adults. It is not wrong for adults to be concerned for their own safety. You don’t trust APS to do the right thing.... guess what, neither do I. Do you think your employer is putting you safety as their #1? Stop expecting me to lie down and take one for the team. I’m allowed to advocate for what I think are the safest conditions to return just like you are at your job.

LOL - what teachers fail to understand is the reasons people are upset is that literally NO OTHER occupation was given this grace. Yes, teachers should be kept safe, but so should healthcare workers, retail and grocery workers, IT workers, hospitality industry workers. Essential workers are... essential, unless they serve our children in which case they aren't. Our priorities are completely out of whack. Every other essential worker took one for the team, PP. Every. Single. One.

Really? Because every government employee and office worker I know is still at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Exactly. Problem is they still got paid their regular salary when a) not teaching at all March- June 2020 and b) working from home and doing half the instruction for the past year+. All these other essential workers didn't have the opportunity to get paid their regular salary while not working...

Again....these were all decisions made by APS. APS didn’t ask us for any input in the spring. I’m upper elementary and we still did daily review lessons and weekly office hours. That was more than many got and I don’t have an answer because I was directed by my principal as to what we should do. And we are definitely not doing half the instruction this year. Students received just under 25 hours per week of instructional time pre-Covid. Right now my students are receiving 70% of their typical instructional time compared to pre-Covid with 4 days of synchronous (17 hours per week) and a shortened day. And again, this is an APS directive. Teachers are not making these decisions you are blaming them for.

I am not going to count directing our kids to read to themselves, watch a teacher (pre-recorded) reading a book, spend time on an app, or watch a video as actual instruction. Speaking for my 2 kids, they are at best receiving half the amount of normal instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Exactly. Problem is they still got paid their regular salary when a) not teaching at all March- June 2020 and b) working from home and doing half the instruction for the past year+. All these other essential workers didn't have the opportunity to get paid their regular salary while not working...

Again....these were all decisions made by APS. APS didn’t ask us for any input in the spring. I’m upper elementary and we still did daily review lessons and weekly office hours. That was more than many got and I don’t have an answer because I was directed by my principal as to what we should do. And we are definitely not doing half the instruction this year. Students received just under 25 hours per week of instructional time pre-Covid. Right now my students are receiving 70% of their typical instructional time compared to pre-Covid with 4 days of synchronous (17 hours per week) and a shortened day. And again, this is an APS directive. Teachers are not making these decisions you are blaming them for.

Yeah but a group of teachers demanded their health and safety to be the number one priority for reopening facilities and blah blah blah all teachers did this too me inlcuding the ones years ago who never taught me critical thinking skills

[Anonymous]

I am not going to count directing our kids to read to themselves, watch a teacher (pre-recorded) reading a book, spend time on an app, or watch a video as actual instruction.

AGAIN. We are being directed at a district and school level to push these apps, do recorded lessons, etc. our schedules are created for us and we are being told how to spend each minute of our days.

[Anonymous]

Additionally during the instructional day pre-Covid we also had students reading independently, using apps such as reflex, dreambox, brainpop, and raz kids, and doing independent work. Mini lessons were 15 minutes per subject and when observed we were told to shorten lessons that went longer. In person, pre-Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I am not going to count directing our kids to read to themselves, watch a teacher (pre-recorded) reading a book, spend time on an app, or watch a video as actual instruction.

AGAIN. We are being directed at a district and school level to push these apps, do recorded lessons, etc. our schedules are created for us and we are being told how to spend each minute of our days.

Let it go. Idiots drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So even if we had concerns about our own safety or APS handling of mitigation, you are mad that we weren’t pushing for in person. Your ire is in the wrong place. This virus is more contagious among adults. It is not wrong for adults to be concerned for their own safety. You don’t trust APS to do the right thing.... guess what, neither do I. Do you think your employer is putting you safety as their #1? Stop expecting me to lie down and take one for the team. I’m allowed to advocate for what I think are the safest conditions to return just like you are at your job.

LOL - what teachers fail to understand is the reasons people are upset is that literally NO OTHER occupation was given this grace. Yes, teachers should be kept safe, but so should healthcare workers, retail and grocery workers, IT workers, hospitality industry workers. Essential workers are... essential, unless they serve our children in which case they aren't. Our priorities are completely out of whack. Every other essential worker took one for the team, PP. Every. Single. One.

Really? Because every government employee and office worker I know is still at home.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Exactly. Problem is they still got paid their regular salary when a) not teaching at all March- June 2020 and b) working from home and doing half the instruction for the past year+. All these other essential workers didn't have the opportunity to get paid their regular salary while not working...

Again....these were all decisions made by APS. APS didn’t ask us for any input in the spring. I’m upper elementary and we still did daily review lessons and weekly office hours. That was more than many got and I don’t have an answer because I was directed by my principal as to what we should do. And we are definitely not doing half the instruction this year. Students received just under 25 hours per week of instructional time pre-Covid. Right now my students are receiving 70% of their typical instructional time compared to pre-Covid with 4 days of synchronous (17 hours per week) and a shortened day. And again, this is an APS directive. Teachers are not making these decisions you are blaming them for.

Yeah but a group of teachers demanded their health and safety to be the number one priority for reopening facilities and blah blah blah all teachers did this too me inlcuding the ones years ago who never taught me critical thinking skills

So... I’m a teacher. I’m also an APS parent. I wasn’t really keen on my kid getting CoVID, either- and I was not alone. Sorry, but all of this has been necessary. Your anger at teachers is really misplaced. What was that Birx said about how this was handled...??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lotta crab bucket mentality itt.

People, the US puritanical-Capitalist system got you by the balls. You all think just because something sucks, but it's commonplace, that makes it A-OK


It don't.

And this is why I am considering going in to teaching. Only problem is that I recognize that I would be a terrible teacher (no patience, little appetite for the tomfoolery of children). But according to some of the teachers on this board -- maybe that doesn't matter? I can clock in my hours and bounce. It's sounding pretty appealing right now.

Clocking hours and bouncing? Please try it. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS teachers never refused to show up for work. As requested we are all in person right now or we have an exemption provided by federal law, or have taken UNPAID leave (so not doing our job but also not going to get paid). That small group of teachers who are taking unpaid leave are doing APS a favor right now by continuing to teach students until substitutes can be hired, or the end of the year, whichever comes first. If your child has a teacher who is in this position, you should be THANKFUL because the alternative is a sub without the knowledge your teacher has. Guess what- unemployed teachers and substitutes aren't lining up for these jobs!! Surprise.

I don't see how you would say that any APS teachers refused to come in to work. We worked from home as APS decided until APS decided we should come in person, and we did. You are blaming teachers for the district's plan that you are unhappy with. Teachers are doing what is asked of us. Teachers also have a right to voice concerns while also meeting the in-person requirements of our job, as we are. The teacher blaming is really unfounded.

Are you sincerely suggesting that teacher reluctance to work in person in the Fall had nothing to do with the APS decision not to send kids back to school in person last Fall?

I don't see how any teacher could say that with a straight face. It might not have been you personally, but I know FOR A FACT that many of your peers fought it tooth and nail.

Are you going to completely fail to acknowledge that so many parents opted to have their kids participate in distance learning this year?

I do think APS admin failed out of the gate polling for teacher preference. Wrong, wrong, wrong way to frame it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS teachers never refused to show up for work. As requested we are all in person right now or we have an exemption provided by federal law, or have taken UNPAID leave (so not doing our job but also not going to get paid). That small group of teachers who are taking unpaid leave are doing APS a favor right now by continuing to teach students until substitutes can be hired, or the end of the year, whichever comes first. If your child has a teacher who is in this position, you should be THANKFUL because the alternative is a sub without the knowledge your teacher has. Guess what- unemployed teachers and substitutes aren't lining up for these jobs!! Surprise.

I don't see how you would say that any APS teachers refused to come in to work. We worked from home as APS decided until APS decided we should come in person, and we did. You are blaming teachers for the district's plan that you are unhappy with. Teachers are doing what is asked of us. Teachers also have a right to voice concerns while also meeting the in-person requirements of our job, as we are. The teacher blaming is really unfounded.

Are you sincerely suggesting that teacher reluctance to work in person in the Fall had nothing to do with the APS decision not to send kids back to school in person last Fall?

I don't see how any teacher could say that with a straight face. It might not have been you personally, but I know FOR A FACT that many of your peers fought it tooth and nail.

Are you going to completely fail to acknowledge that so many parents opted to have their kids participate in distance learning this year?

I do think APS admin failed out of the gate polling for teacher preference. Wrong, wrong, wrong way to frame it.

Teacher preference didn’t mean jack. It was parent preference for virtual or hybrid. THAT is what never should’ve happened. It’s safe or it’s not. THAT was the misstep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So even if we had concerns about our own safety or APS handling of mitigation, you are mad that we weren’t pushing for in person. Your ire is in the wrong place. This virus is more contagious among adults. It is not wrong for adults to be concerned for their own safety. You don’t trust APS to do the right thing.... guess what, neither do I. Do you think your employer is putting you safety as their #1? Stop expecting me to lie down and take one for the team. I’m allowed to advocate for what I think are the safest conditions to return just like you are at your job.

LOL - what teachers fail to understand is the reasons people are upset is that literally NO OTHER occupation was given this grace. Yes, teachers should be kept safe, but so should healthcare workers, retail and grocery workers, IT workers, hospitality industry workers. Essential workers are... essential, unless they serve our children in which case they aren't. Our priorities are completely out of whack. Every other essential worker took one for the team, PP. Every. Single. One.

Really? Because every government employee and office worker I know is still at home.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 7th grader (WMS) will have PE and Art in-person today.. Science and English are both remote.. Glad to see we are prioritizing in-person learning..

Teachers - there is lno excuse to not be in school if you are fully vaccinated and not getting anywhere near the kids. Sorry to sound harsh, but I'm so fed up with this ridiculousness.

Nobody cares if you are “sorry to sound harsh” or what you’re fed up with. You have no power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 7th grader (WMS) will have PE and Art in-person today.. Science and English are both remote.. Glad to see we are prioritizing in-person learning..

Teachers - there is lno excuse to not be in school if you are fully vaccinated and not getting anywhere near the kids. Sorry to sound harsh, but I'm so fed up with this ridiculousness.

Just stop.

No.. This is ridiculous. Teachers that are fully vaccinated should resign if they refuse to teach in-person. The teachers that remain remote better damn hope they are never seen in a restaurant, going on a trip, in a group setting, etc etc

They’d “better hope?” ROFL. OOOOOOOOK, keyboard warrior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lotta crab bucket mentality itt.

People, the US puritanical-Capitalist system got you by the balls. You all think just because something sucks, but it's commonplace, that makes it A-OK


It don't.

And this is why I am considering going in to teaching. Only problem is that I recognize that I would be a terrible teacher (no patience, little appetite for the tomfoolery of children). But according to some of the teachers on this board -- maybe that doesn't matter? I can clock in my hours and bounce. It's sounding pretty appealing right now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lotta crab bucket mentality itt.

People, the US puritanical-Capitalist system got you by the balls. You all think just because something sucks, but it's commonplace, that makes it A-OK


It don't.

And this is why I am considering going in to teaching. Only problem is that I recognize that I would be a terrible teacher (no patience, little appetite for the tomfoolery of children). But according to some of the teachers on this board -- maybe that doesn't matter? I can clock in my hours and bounce. It's sounding pretty appealing right now.

This is what every single one of these hysterical parent posters needs to do. Teachers have it so much easier than your so, so difficult corporate job? Jump right in! Districts are desperate and no teaching degree is required for first year teachers. Then you too can have all that sweet time off. Sorry about the pay cut, but hey, you’re OK with that, right?

Staffing problem solved! And — bonus — you’ll be too busy to whine for hours on the internet about how lazy teachers are. Everyone wins.