How is there not a thread about that lunatic dad who screamed at the Loudon school board?

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

There was substance to his message? All I heard was DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO YOUR JOB SO JUST DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO IT!!! I AM ANGRY WHITE MAN WHO YELLS AND THREATENS TO MAKE YOU DO YOUR JOB! I HAD A CONFERENCE CALL JUST NOW BC I DO MY JOB ALL THE TIME BUT ILL DO YOURS TOO. YOU FAIL. BAD BOARD. MY GARBAGE MAN RULES EVEN THOUGH IM TOTALLY DEMEANING HIM RIGHT NOW IN MY COMMENTARY. DO. YOUR. JOB. Very compelling arguments. I like his well-thought out plan for re-opening safely. Beautifully articulated.

Every person on this board is suddenly all about the angry white dudes. Supporting Chap, applauding this dude as some eloquent orator with cogent points, watching Tucker Carlson!? I’m so embarrassed, have some standards.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

There was substance to his message? All I heard was DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO YOUR JOB SO JUST DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO IT!!! I AM ANGRY WHITE MAN WHO YELLS AND THREATENS TO MAKE YOU DO YOUR JOB! I HAD A CONFERENCE CALL JUST NOW BC I DO MY JOB ALL THE TIME BUT ILL DO YOURS TOO. YOU FAIL. BAD BOARD. MY GARBAGE MAN RULES EVEN THOUGH IM TOTALLY DEMEANING HIM RIGHT NOW IN MY COMMENTARY. DO. YOUR. JOB. Very compelling arguments. I like his well-thought out plan for re-opening safely. Beautifully articulated.

He’s a total douche bag in sentiment and delivery.

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I guess we should all be glad he didn’t shoot up the room.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

There was substance to his message? All I heard was DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO YOUR JOB SO JUST DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO IT!!! I AM ANGRY WHITE MAN WHO YELLS AND THREATENS TO MAKE YOU DO YOUR JOB! I HAD A CONFERENCE CALL JUST NOW BC I DO MY JOB ALL THE TIME BUT ILL DO YOURS TOO. YOU FAIL. BAD BOARD. MY GARBAGE MAN RULES EVEN THOUGH IM TOTALLY DEMEANING HIM RIGHT NOW IN MY COMMENTARY. DO. YOUR. JOB. Very compelling arguments. I like his well-thought out plan for re-opening safely. Beautifully articulated.

Had he been black or yellow would you have put that in your comment? Lmao stupid racist snowflakes you are. You probably blame whites for your small willie too.

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He's what parents feel as teachers lazy it up and refuse to work and are not held accountable

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Anonymous wrote:He's what parents feel as teachers lazy it up and refuse to work and are not held accountable

Who’s the person on your kid’s google meet all day if the teachers refuse to work?

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Anonymous wrote:He's what parents feel as teachers lazy it up and refuse to work and are not held accountable

Go F yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I applause him! Great job!
And I have to say his opening line was the best!

His opening line made no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely times when raising your voice and showing anger during a public speech are effective. This was not one of those times IMO. The screaming was over the top and made him sound like a child having a tantrum.

But I still think schools should open.

I disagree. I think his utter rage and disgust was raw and expressed so much of what millions of other parents are feeling. He was honest. I applaud him.

Agreed. I think this thread's existence, and all of the pushback in it, are evidence that his raw emotion was effective. He just expressed what a lot of us are feeling inside.

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.

Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.

I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.

DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.

Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.

I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.

The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.

You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.

In FFX this is true as well. UMC white parents are using these kids as props in their plan to get what they want. Perhaps they should listen to the Nice White Parents podcast because that is basically what parents are doing here. The low income and minority groups are choosing to keep their children virtual. They are not dumb. They are making a choice that they feel is right for their family, even if it means learning loss. Newsflash, UMC white parents: they don’t need you to save them.

Link to these numbers showing lower-income families are choosing DL at higher rates than others?

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.

Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.

I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.

DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.

Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.

I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.

The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.

You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.

What they choose is irrelevant. The data show they are falling behind. Society has a responsibility to educate them.

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Anonymous wrote:People appreciate his passion. He’s gone viral.

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Not sure how anyone could argue with him, but of course, the loons will.

Well he compared teachers inside a classroom with many kids to trash collectors... so he sounds like a loon.

yeah no. He said trash collectors are willing to do their jobs as public servants and teachers are not willing to do their jobs. It's a good comparison.

No, it's a stupid comparison. Teachers would be wiling to work in person too in a truck with open windows with one other adult, not in a petri dish with multiple noncompliant kids (who, no matter how much you scream to the contrary, schools will NOT enforce discipline and will not kick out kids who don't comply with masks and distancing, and BTW, masks and distancing, especially crappy cloth masks that kids wear, are not solutions). Group settings indoors are NOT recommended, not even if you really, really want your kids out of your house.

The fact that you don't understand the difference between the conditions of those two jobs during a pandemic makes you seem willfully ignorant.

This guy is awful. And his message is totally undermined by how he acted. BUT, once the teachers are given the opportunity to be vaccinated, I think teachers should have to go back. My kids go to a small private school that has been open all year. I volunteered to be a sub because they couldn’t get them from the regular pool. If I can go in and do this without a vaccine, teachers can do it once vaccinated.

You don’t think you are a tiny bit hypocritical that you think public school kids should have to wait for an education until teachers are vaccinated but it was cool for your kids to be educated all year with unvaccinated teachers?

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

That's not what the forms they fill out say. My kids are in FCPS and my sister's kids are in APS.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

There was substance to his message? All I heard was DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO YOUR JOB SO JUST DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO IT!!! I AM ANGRY WHITE MAN WHO YELLS AND THREATENS TO MAKE YOU DO YOUR JOB! I HAD A CONFERENCE CALL JUST NOW BC I DO MY JOB ALL THE TIME BUT ILL DO YOURS TOO. YOU FAIL. BAD BOARD. MY GARBAGE MAN RULES EVEN THOUGH IM TOTALLY DEMEANING HIM RIGHT NOW IN MY COMMENTARY. DO. YOUR. JOB. Very compelling arguments. I like his well-thought out plan for re-opening safely. Beautifully articulated.

Every person on this board is suddenly all about the angry white dudes. Supporting Chap, applauding this dude as some eloquent orator with cogent points, watching Tucker Carlson!? I’m so embarrassed, have some standards.

Chap’s speech was great and his proposal was voted out of the committee.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure he was chill and easygoing to his kids' teachers before the pandemic, too.

Can you imagine the unfortunate teacher that’s stuck with his kid?

What are you talking about?