How is there not a thread about that lunatic dad who screamed at the Loudon school board?

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.

Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.

I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.

DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.

Get child care. The volume table don’t want to go back. It’s the affluent who can afford but refuse to pay for care having the fits.

I have no problem affording childcare, and I suspect you don’t either. The low-income parents who have to leave every day for work aren’t so lucky. They have to leave their kids at home to figure out DL for themselves. No wonder so many kids are checking out.

The narrative that the affluent are the ones who want schools open is disgusting and perverse. The data show low income children are falling behind. We have to educate them. Closed schools are creating enormous race, income, and gender inequality from women dropping out of the labor force in record numbers. That is what the social science says. UMC are using lower class kids as an excuse to sleep in and bake in pajamas.

You do realize that lower-income families and PoC are choosing distance learning at much higher rates than UMC/MC communities, right? Look at the differences between north and south Arlington.

In FFX this is true as well. UMC white parents are using these kids as props in their plan to get what they want. Perhaps they should listen to the Nice White Parents podcast because that is basically what parents are doing here. The low income and minority groups are choosing to keep their children virtual. They are not dumb. They are making a choice that they feel is right for their family, even if it means learning loss. Newsflash, UMC white parents: they don’t need you to save them.

Link to these numbers showing lower-income families are choosing DL at higher rates than others?

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Anonymous wrote:People appreciate his passion. He’s gone viral.

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Not sure how anyone could argue with him, but of course, the loons will.

Well he compared teachers inside a classroom with many kids to trash collectors... so he sounds like a loon.

yeah no. He said trash collectors are willing to do their jobs as public servants and teachers are not willing to do their jobs. It's a good comparison.

No, it's a stupid comparison. Teachers would be wiling to work in person too in a truck with open windows with one other adult, not in a petri dish with multiple noncompliant kids (who, no matter how much you scream to the contrary, schools will NOT enforce discipline and will not kick out kids who don't comply with masks and distancing, and BTW, masks and distancing, especially crappy cloth masks that kids wear, are not solutions). Group settings indoors are NOT recommended, not even if you really, really want your kids out of your house.

The fact that you don't understand the difference between the conditions of those two jobs during a pandemic makes you seem willfully ignorant.

This guy is awful. And his message is totally undermined by how he acted. BUT, once the teachers are given the opportunity to be vaccinated, I think teachers should have to go back. My kids go to a small private school that has been open all year. I volunteered to be a sub because they couldn’t get them from the regular pool. If I can go in and do this without a vaccine, teachers can do it once vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Uhhhh at the FCPS school I work at, over 100 parents have switched their kid to virtual when given the opportunity last month.

Good, so it’ll be even easier to get RTS off the ground and help set protocols.

I mean, sure? But it is not the "majority of parents." It is a minority of parents. A minority of majority affluent parents. All the people screaming about "oh what about the most vulnerable." The most vulnerable and at risk students that are not logging on to do anything are remaining virtual.

DP. Do you really think the parents of the most-vulnerable students have the time to lobby against DL? Do you really think it’s easy for parents who *have* to leave the house for work to help their kids with DL? Thank god for the affluent parents who are doing the lobbying and speaking for the most vulnerable populations.

Do you have any idea how gross and pathetic you sound when you pull this Wealthy White Savior Saving The Poors and the Non-Whites From Themselves BS?

You want them in person so YOUR kids will be in person. You are fooling no one. They chose what THEY wanted for THEIR kids for THEIR reasons. They do not need you "lobbying and speaking" for them (when we all know it's really for your own kids anyway).

Your assumption that I’m wealthy and white is really something, considering I am neither. But I understand how every aspect of life is about race and or economic class, for twits like you. And I’m trying to fool exactly no one. Of course I want my own kids in school! That’s no secret! I defy you to produce evidence saying that the vast majority of low-income families are choosing DL. Actual evidence, not claims pulled from your a$$.

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I don't have research to pull from that would show an overall trend. But as a teacher who works at 2 schools, one very affluent, one not at all, I can anecdotally say that about 80% of my students at the affluent school are coming back to the building. About 35% of my students at the other one are.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have research to pull from that would show an overall trend. But as a teacher who works at 2 schools, one very affluent, one not at all, I can anecdotally say that about 80% of my students at the affluent school are coming back to the building. About 35% of my students at the other one are.

Anecdotes mean nothing. You and the other poster insisting this is a county-wide trend should apologize for claiming nonsense with zero evidence to back it up. It makes you look even worse than you originally did, if possible.

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I'm not the other poster. This was my first post, just chiming in

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It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

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Apparently, he was interviewed on Tucker Carlson tonight and did a fantastic job. I didn’t see it, but maybe it will be available tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s all over the news, but nothing in the Virginia schools forum?

The dad looks like a world class a$$hole. He is not helping his cause at all.

OpenACPS is all about this guy...singing his praises...smh

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

There was substance to his message? All I heard was DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO YOUR JOB SO JUST DO YOUR JOB OR ILL DO IT!!! I AM ANGRY WHITE MAN WHO YELLS AND THREATENS TO MAKE YOU DO YOUR JOB! I HAD A CONFERENCE CALL JUST NOW BC I DO MY JOB ALL THE TIME BUT ILL DO YOURS TOO. YOU FAIL. BAD BOARD. MY GARBAGE MAN RULES EVEN THOUGH IM TOTALLY DEMEANING HIM RIGHT NOW IN MY COMMENTARY. DO. YOUR. JOB. Very compelling arguments. I like his well-thought out plan for re-opening safely. Beautifully articulated.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the focus is more on his delivery than on the substance of his message. Too bad, really, because he's right. I guess it's easier to ignore the truth when it's delivered in a way that you disagree with.

His frustration and anger were raw and I think a lot of people feel the way he does. Maybe it's time the SB hears and sees that.

I don't mind his passion and anger per se, but I'm sure that (a) school board is aware of this sentiment, and (b) are the types of leaders who are going to do the right thing here, even if it upsets some people who don't want to face reality.

His substance was basically "figure out how to get kids back in school" was based on wishful thinking and ignorance (willful or otherwise) of the present risks operating a school environment would entail (and which are completely dissimilar to risks for waste management workers, further demonstrating his ignorance), so... I don't know that we need to focus much more on the substance?

He wants them to "do their job" and "figure it out"... but that's exactly what they've been doing, and what they have "figured out" is that while DL suuuuuuuucks it's the best alternative available until we can safely re-open schools.

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I agree with the man. Whatever it takes to get the kids back in school it what should have been going on since day 1. Theyve had no excuse for 12 months.

Bravo to that brave citizen.

Wish FCPS was half the agency of LCPS. And clearly LCPS is a joke. FCPS is the worst group of lazy, incompetent, greedy, inflated a-holes than pretty much anyone in the country.

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Meh. Just another hostile, entitled white dude. Seems like the storm-the-Capitol type.

Poor kids & teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud him. And the reason why no one thinks so is because I truly believe most people in the DMV don’t want a return to school.

Well most families in NOVA are choosing to remain virtual, so this is probably true.

Actually not true. Perhaps for Loudoun - but the pendulum is swinging the other way and at least in Alexandria, Fairfax and Arlington the majority of parents are pushing for in person.

Liar.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the man. Whatever it takes to get the kids back in school it what should have been going on since day 1. Theyve had no excuse for 12 months.

Bravo to that brave citizen.

Wish FCPS was half the agency of LCPS. And clearly LCPS is a joke. FCPS is the worst group of lazy, incompetent, greedy, inflated a-holes than pretty much anyone in the country.

Well said.