Is John Hopkins an Ivy?

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Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

[Anonymous]

EH, putting it at the level of Williams/Amherst is generous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:EH, putting it at the level of Williams/Amherst is generous.

I was trying to be generous, lol ... in reality, you’re right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

Dartmouth is a university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

Dartmouth is a university.

Yeah but ... not really. They got their R1 back last year. Let’s see if they can really prove they can roll with the big boys.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

Dartmouth is a university.

Yeah but ... not really. They got their R1 back last year. Let’s see if they can really prove they can roll with the big boys.

R1 is not the distinction of an LAC from a university. So, yeah, really. Such a dumb statement. “With the big boys”. Like you have a clue...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

Dartmouth is a university.

Yeah but ... not really. They got their R1 back last year. Let’s see if they can really prove they can roll with the big boys.

R1 is not the distinction of an LAC from a university. So, yeah, really. Such a dumb statement. “With the big boys”. Like you have a clue...

R1 is the designation given to research universities of any quality. Without it, you might as well not even call yourself one.

Why do you think they call themselves Dartmouth College and not Dartmouth University? Because they’re barely a research university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

Dartmouth is a university.

Yeah but ... not really. They got their R1 back last year. Let’s see if they can really prove they can roll with the big boys.

R1 is not the distinction of an LAC from a university. So, yeah, really. Such a dumb statement. “With the big boys”. Like you have a clue...

R1 is the designation given to research universities of any quality. Without it, you might as well not even call yourself one.

Why do you think they call themselves Dartmouth College and not Dartmouth University? Because they’re barely a research university.

No, that is not why they call themselves that. You are talking out of your butt. It has to do with their perception and marketing. You know Harvard students go to Harvard College, right?

Many universities are universities without being classified as R1,

You dont know what you are talking about. Do some homework and come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

Sorry they rejected you.

Dartmouth will be just fine, as they have for a few hundred years now.

It just baffles me why people think it is insightful to post stuff like this.

NP. If Dartmouth wasn’t in the Ivy League, they’d be Amherst — a well-regarded LAC that most people don’t think about that much.

And before you say it, I didn’t apply to Dartmouth. I went to the vastly superior UChicago.

Dartmouth is a university.

Yeah but ... not really. They got their R1 back last year. Let’s see if they can really prove they can roll with the big boys.

R1 is not the distinction of an LAC from a university. So, yeah, really. Such a dumb statement. “With the big boys”. Like you have a clue...

R1 is the designation given to research universities of any quality. Without it, you might as well not even call yourself one.

Why do you think they call themselves Dartmouth College and not Dartmouth University? Because they’re barely a research university.

No, that is not why they call themselves that. You are talking out of your butt. It has to do with their perception and marketing. You know Harvard students go to Harvard College, right?

Many universities are universities without being classified as R1,

You dont know what you are talking about. Do some homework and come back.

Yes, but they aren’t good research universities. That’s why I said that Dartmouth needs to prove it can hang with the big boys (aka the good R1s).

Also, Harvard College is a subunit of Harvard University. Not true with Dartmouth College.

[Anonymous]

Guys, this is easy:

Elite: Harvard, Yale, Princeton
Very Good: Columbia, Penn
Land Grant University: Cornell
Not worth your money: Dartmouth, Brown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWU is a strong research uni, Brown and Dartmouth are not. Not sure why JHU booster is grouping NWU with the Ivies.

I don’t care any which way, it just feels like everyone’s arguments are all over the place.

Yet USNWR has Brown #1 for undergraduate teaching... it's about perspective, what criteria is important to the student, and of course, subjectivity. These are all great schools 99% of students would love the chance to attend. These "groupings" are ridiculous.

Yes. The groupings are ridiculous and are ultimately arbitrary.

In academia, professors go seamlessly within the schools of the Ivy League (except for Dartmouth for most disciplines, as it’s not a research university) and schools like Northwestern, UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, and Stanford. I’ve been in a position for the fed gov’t to put together panels of academics from all of these schools. I’ve seen them work together and socialize. They clearly consider one another part of the same circles.

I have family members who are professors and have confirmed this.

Certain groupings may mean something to the general public, but for the people who actually live in this world, they mean little.

I agree with everything you said except that Dartmouth regained its R1 status.

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2019/02/r1-mcgill

Dartmouth is the epitome of a has-been/hanger-on. They can’t ever seem to get a handle on what direction to pull their university (or “College”) in. I predict it’ll go down the path of W&M in the next couple of decades. If they’re really trying to now compete with other research universities in their tier, they’ve just reefated themselves to dead last place.

What does 'go down the path of W&M' mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this is easy:

Elite: Harvard, Yale, Princeton
Very Good: Columbia, Penn
Land Grant University: Cornell
Not worth your money: Dartmouth, Brown

What’s wrong with being a land grant university?

[Anonymous]

Nothing. It’s just not special or elite. It’s best programs are basically things Michigan State are good at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this is easy:

Elite: Harvard, Yale, Princeton
Very Good: Columbia, Penn
Land Grant University: Cornell
Not worth your money: Dartmouth, Brown

Only a Penn grad would put UPenn on that level.

[Anonymous]

Sweet. I’m not a Penn grad. It’s a good school. There are tons of non-ivies including public’s I would put above it.