Fccps will have all students in the buildings by the end of January. Woot woot

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Anonymous wrote:16:34 again. I don’t have an issue teaching from the building 1.5 weeks before students return. Mandating all of us return 2.5 weeks before students was not necessary.

This is a very common sense perspective and a good compromise.

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It's mind-boggling how some people are actually so stupid that they believe FCPS will reopen at the very worse possible time of the pandemic.

I work for FCPS and would not be at all surprised if they do this. I think the wheels will fall off within two weeks, though. I'm not kidding when I say most of us who have been in person already know at least one coworker who caught it from a student. It's going to be hard to hide or explain away in-school spread when entire departments and grade levels have to quarantine.

If they are going to mandate opening, they should pay for teachers/staff sick leave as well as all medical costs and the same for kids who don't have health insurance. I wonder how many teachers will quit and how they will quickly replace them. The pro-opening now parents should step up and fill the spots.

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Anonymous wrote:Try reading up on what is happening in Britain. It is a total sh$t show that is headed our way. This seems like an incredibly irresponsible move.

The new variant is in CO now.

“the infected patient was a man in his 20s with no recent travel history who is currently in isolation in Elbert County, a semi-rural area on the outskirts of the greater Denver metropolitan area.“

We are screwed big time.

If he had been in a public school this never would have happened!

‘Rona dares not enter our hallowed public school buildings.

Even if it was so bold, public schools are impervious to its wiles. It physically cannot spread there. Maybe the whole country should move into a public school long enough to wipe out covid and flatten the curve permanently? Mitigation

Personally I'm impressed by the virus's reading ability. "Oh, crap -- this is a SCHOOL and not another multihour-a-day gathering of people indoors during a pandemic? LOL! I feel so silly. My bad. I'll just move on down the street."

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Fed. And there is a piece of this people are missing in the discussion of the DMV’s push to reopen. My agency is massive and employees skew female. And we have been circling for months in an almost entirely telework posture. We are in the same posture in the DMV that we were in March. We are a public contact heavy agency and right now, those positions are trying to work over the phone, but key pieces don’t work. A few people have volunteered to go in and process mail, which is months behind despite us having time sensitive legal deadlines.

And right now, my agency can’t open until schools reopen. Because the reality is they have too many women a s there are too many childcare issues for them to even try. And they are literally saying, once schools reopen, we will start the return to work phase in. In the meantime, we have folks working split shift of 5am to 9am and 4pm to 8pm to deal with DL and childcare.

Mind you, I’m not rooting for a fast reopening of the government, because that pushes me back into the office. But the cold, hard reality of having the federal government as the massive local employer is that the needs of the federal government are considered. And the federal government needs DMV schools open. And since Fauci and the CDC say schools should open, it looks bad that May agency can’t process mail from citizens in Texas and provide a response because schools in the DMV aren’t open.

Just a different perspective. It’s been ten months. Reopening the economy and the nation has to start somewhere. And it logistically, the schools have to open so that federal agencies can reopen, and federal agencies have to reopen so that various other parts of the economy that rely on some of our services are shutdown right now can reopen. It’s dominos. Schools aren’t open, so agencies aren’t able to do all of their tasks, so some types of Medicaid reimbursements can’t happen, so they are getting backlogged, which is stressing health care providers and hospital, who are already stressed by COVID. Now react this across multiple sectors. Significant portions of the federal government are not fully reopened and are stalled.

And ai know you are going to say, well feds should just find other childcare. But the reality is there are too many of us. And then we have to take the leave to which we are entitled for COVID related childcare. And you can’t replace people easily in specialized positions with background check. When background checks are... performed y people who are waiting for schools to reopen.

And, of course, our schools also serve a military heavy community. Whose moms can’t quit or take a day off.

Understand what is happening in the DMV is much bigger than parents had a temper tantrum and won. We are in a unique position in that people in all 50 states are stuck until our schools reopen.

Also a fed. So I get it. But why NOW. It’s not safe now. My agency isn’t mom-heavy and we also perform an in person function. But we are still telework because it’s not safe for us to be back. Wait 2-3 months. None of what you write above is wrong. It’s valid insight. But it doesn’t explain why now is the right time, except that people are fed up. Doesn’t make it safe.

There is some try to what you say. For us, the cold, hard reality is that we’ve been creative with tape and glue over a system not designed for full telework. In our case, with 1980s legacy systems. Just like teachers have getting creative to make it work. But, there are things we cannot do in this operational status, and the longer this goes on and the bigger the backlog is getting and the more we are are unable to meet legal obligations. It’s like pressure in a pipe. It’s now, because we’re going to explode. Just like we can make things okay for the public for a while during a normal funding spat shutdown, the longer it goes on, the more problems pile up. And in this case, the pressure is so much we are going to explode.

It’s not like ***** or ***** appointees are making any of this any easier.

And no. It’s not safe now. We should have had school open from August to November so Feds could really push out the worst of the COVID backlog. Then have a second closure Thanksgiving to early spring. This would have reduced stress on the federal government by clearing the backlog in a safer environment. But school didn’t open in August. And to be fair, since the federal government need is so great, the feds should have been pouring money and PPE and logistical support into making it as safe as possible to get as many kids back as soon as possible. But, that would have required common sense and planning by the ***** Admin. So, here we are.

It’s a bad situation. I get teachers are afraid of going in and getting sick. I’m afraid of going in and getting sick. But, we have people in this country literally dying because because DMV public schools are closed. And I especially see the healthcare sector, where federal response is stalled in part by telework. To some extent that is driving the piss poor government response the in vaccinations and testing and PPE and the stress in the healthcare system.

I would imagine the answer to why NOW is that Biden is getting sworn in in 3 weeks and his COVID and transition teams see the nasty cycle of schools not opening due to the poor response to COVID and the poor response to COVID a being due to schools not opening. I hope this means the Federal government gets serious about helping DMV publics specifically. When Biden says back to school in 100 days, I’m sure the DMV and schools on military bases get priority. There was at least money in the COVID bill that just passed.

And here’s the calculus that is being made. If a dozen or 100 or 10000 DMV area teachers die and a dozen or 100 or 1000 DMV area feds die, its worth it to save 100,000 people or more by getting our COVID response act together. It’s a cost benefit analysis.

Wow. We're going to need some citations for this incredible claim. Please make sure they're specific and provide proof that they are directly resultant from school buildings being closed.

Thanks. We're all ears.

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This has nothing to do with federal employees. Fed mom is a little over the top. No one in FCCPS is weighing nationwide consequences against school reopening. Nor is anyone dying due to fed mom’s teleworking. It’s absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t doubt the fed is speaking bare objective facts but I can also tell you, damn. I’m a mom, daughter, sister and I am NOT dying for this job LOL I hate to break it to you!

That’s fair. But people are dying because the feds can’t do their job. Eventually, one of those people could be you or your sister or your mother or your kid. At the rate we are now, every month vaccinations lag, 100,000 people die. If can’t reimburse PCPs they can’t stay open to treat people. If we can’t get genomic sequencing up and running, we can’t track this new variant. If we can’t scale up rapid testing, we can’t keep you safe in school. If we can’t push out logistics to hospitals, they ration care.

It can be not your problem so screw it. But at the rate this is devolving, it will become your problem because you or someone you love will get COVID when they didn’t have to, will die because of inadequate care for COVID or some other emergency, will have cancer progress because you can’t get screened.

It does make me wonder what would have happened if we were fighting an actual war.

Dude you’re a fed working at home. You reallllly do not need to be telling other people they should die for their jobs.

I’m a Fed who is working from home because schools aren’t open. It’s not exactly in my COVID best interest to push teachers to reopen. Your look at this on a micro level. I’m telling you what it looks like for those of us with a macro view. And it isn’t pretty. It suck for me too. Im scared I’m terrified about what happens if we need medical care and can’t get it. But the longer we wait, the scarier it gets. That’s just reality. And it’s like running up credit card debt. Eventually everyone pays a price.

Hey, Fed, you cannot be this dumb. No, the "longer we wait," the more people are vaccinated and the more we get through the next several weeks (not just two, if you know anything about COVID disease progression) that are going to be an even greater blazing dumpster fire thanks to all the entitled idiots who traveled and gathered for the holidays.

THEN it will be less scary. Opening now is not "reality." It's idiocy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t doubt the fed is speaking bare objective facts but I can also tell you, damn. I’m a mom, daughter, sister and I am NOT dying for this job LOL I hate to break it to you!

That’s fair. But people are dying because the feds can’t do their job. Eventually, one of those people could be you or your sister or your mother or your kid. At the rate we are now, every month vaccinations lag, 100,000 people die. If can’t reimburse PCPs they can’t stay open to treat people. If we can’t get genomic sequencing up and running, we can’t track this new variant. If we can’t scale up rapid testing, we can’t keep you safe in school. If we can’t push out logistics to hospitals, they ration care.

It can be not your problem so screw it. But at the rate this is devolving, it will become your problem because you or someone you love will get COVID when they didn’t have to, will die because of inadequate care for COVID or some other emergency, will have cancer progress because you can’t get screened.

It does make me wonder what would have happened if we were fighting an actual war.

Dude you’re a fed working at home. You reallllly do not need to be telling other people they should die for their jobs.

I’m a Fed who is working from home because schools aren’t open. It’s not exactly in my COVID best interest to push teachers to reopen. Your look at this on a micro level. I’m telling you what it looks like for those of us with a macro view. And it isn’t pretty. It suck for me too. Im scared I’m terrified about what happens if we need medical care and can’t get it. But the longer we wait, the scarier it gets. That’s just reality. And it’s like running up credit card debt. Eventually everyone pays a price.

Hey, Fed, you cannot be this dumb. No, the "longer we wait," the more people are vaccinated and the more we get through the next several weeks (not just two, if you know anything about COVID disease progression) that are going to be an even greater blazing dumpster fire thanks to all the entitled idiots who traveled and gathered for the holidays.

THEN it will be less scary. Opening now is not "reality." It's idiocy.

The problem with that is that we aren’t doing the vaccine rollout at warp speed. We are doing it at snail crawl. And health providers are supposed to the easy part. Because the federal rollout is about as competent as the federal testing rollout, which 10 months later still isn’t fixed.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t doubt the fed is speaking bare objective facts but I can also tell you, damn. I’m a mom, daughter, sister and I am NOT dying for this job LOL I hate to break it to you!

That’s fair. But people are dying because the feds can’t do their job. Eventually, one of those people could be you or your sister or your mother or your kid. At the rate we are now, every month vaccinations lag, 100,000 people die. If can’t reimburse PCPs they can’t stay open to treat people. If we can’t get genomic sequencing up and running, we can’t track this new variant. If we can’t scale up rapid testing, we can’t keep you safe in school. If we can’t push out logistics to hospitals, they ration care.

It can be not your problem so screw it. But at the rate this is devolving, it will become your problem because you or someone you love will get COVID when they didn’t have to, will die because of inadequate care for COVID or some other emergency, will have cancer progress because you can’t get screened.

It does make me wonder what would have happened if we were fighting an actual war.

Dude you’re a fed working at home. You reallllly do not need to be telling other people they should die for their jobs.

I’m a Fed who is working from home because schools aren’t open. It’s not exactly in my COVID best interest to push teachers to reopen. Your look at this on a micro level. I’m telling you what it looks like for those of us with a macro view. And it isn’t pretty. It suck for me too. Im scared I’m terrified about what happens if we need medical care and can’t get it. But the longer we wait, the scarier it gets. That’s just reality. And it’s like running up credit card debt. Eventually everyone pays a price.

Hey, Fed, you cannot be this dumb. No, the "longer we wait," the more people are vaccinated and the more we get through the next several weeks (not just two, if you know anything about COVID disease progression) that are going to be an even greater blazing dumpster fire thanks to all the entitled idiots who traveled and gathered for the holidays.

THEN it will be less scary. Opening now is not "reality." It's idiocy.

The problem with that is that we aren’t doing the vaccine rollout at warp speed. We are doing it at snail crawl. And health providers are supposed to the easy part. Because the federal rollout is about as competent as the federal testing rollout, which 10 months later still isn’t fixed.

Yes, but I think it is a bit presumptuous to assume the vaccine rollout would speed up significantly if schools opened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s a MAGA yes?

Lol, Peter Noonan? No. Definitely not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Fed. And there is a piece of this people are missing in the discussion of the DMV’s push to reopen. My agency is massive and employees skew female. And we have been circling for months in an almost entirely telework posture. We are in the same posture in the DMV that we were in March. We are a public contact heavy agency and right now, those positions are trying to work over the phone, but key pieces don’t work. A few people have volunteered to go in and process mail, which is months behind despite us having time sensitive legal deadlines.

And right now, my agency can’t open until schools reopen. Because the reality is they have too many women a s there are too many childcare issues for them to even try. And they are literally saying, once schools reopen, we will start the return to work phase in. In the meantime, we have folks working split shift of 5am to 9am and 4pm to 8pm to deal with DL and childcare.

Mind you, I’m not rooting for a fast reopening of the government, because that pushes me back into the office. But the cold, hard reality of having the federal government as the massive local employer is that the needs of the federal government are considered. And the federal government needs DMV schools open. And since Fauci and the CDC say schools should open, it looks bad that May agency can’t process mail from citizens in Texas and provide a response because schools in the DMV aren’t open.

Just a different perspective. It’s been ten months. Reopening the economy and the nation has to start somewhere. And it logistically, the schools have to open so that federal agencies can reopen, and federal agencies have to reopen so that various other parts of the economy that rely on some of our services are shutdown right now can reopen. It’s dominos. Schools aren’t open, so agencies aren’t able to do all of their tasks, so some types of Medicaid reimbursements can’t happen, so they are getting backlogged, which is stressing health care providers and hospital, who are already stressed by COVID. Now react this across multiple sectors. Significant portions of the federal government are not fully reopened and are stalled.

And ai know you are going to say, well feds should just find other childcare. But the reality is there are too many of us. And then we have to take the leave to which we are entitled for COVID related childcare. And you can’t replace people easily in specialized positions with background check. When background checks are... performed y people who are waiting for schools to reopen.

And, of course, our schools also serve a military heavy community. Whose moms can’t quit or take a day off.

Understand what is happening in the DMV is much bigger than parents had a temper tantrum and won. We are in a unique position in that people in all 50 states are stuck until our schools reopen.

This was well-stated and something I hadn't considered (and I want my kids back in school and support Noonan's decision).

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Let’s not forget it is OPTIONAL for parents to send their kids in person. Distance Learning is still available. With the hybrid model, there is a max of ~8 kids per class with lots of distancing for less than 3 hours. Teachers also have the option to take unpaid leave and return to their jobs next year which is more than generous, especially since there’s a large market for in person or virtual tutoring. This is a difficult situation for all, but nobody is flipping a switch and having ALL return to schools at once.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s not forget it is OPTIONAL for parents to send their kids in person. Distance Learning is still available. With the hybrid model, there is a max of ~8 kids per class with lots of distancing for less than 3 hours. Teachers also have the option to take unpaid leave and return to their jobs next year which is more than generous, especially since there’s a large market for in person or virtual tutoring. This is a difficult situation for all, but nobody is flipping a switch and having ALL return to schools at once.

High school classes are commonly in the high 20s or even 30. People are not as worried about transmission in the classroom as they about transmission during all of the unsupervised time switching classes. Yes, students have a choice to stay home.

In reality, you can’t not notify HR you are taking leave and they say, see you next year! Teachers only have so much control and it only takes one student to not follow the rules to infect your entire class. We can have the best classroom management but this is a lot to risk in classrooms without windows that open.

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teaching in schools does not have the luxury of working from home. If you wanted to do that go work for the university of phoenix, part of your job is to watch the kids. If you can't watch the kids, parents are not getting the full benefits of public schools and must be compensated for the lack of services because they will be on the hook for the lack of in-person supervision. Public schools are failing to provide 50%+ of the services they are required to perform.

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Good point about High School. Clearly a elementary school parent with very small class sizes and no switching rooms. For the 4 days of in person hybrid, it felt like minimal risk. I’ll clarify my comment was geared towards the lower grades.

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Anonymous wrote:teaching in schools does not have the luxury of working from home. If you wanted to do that go work for the university of phoenix, part of your job is to watch the kids. If you can't watch the kids, parents are not getting the full benefits of public schools and must be compensated for the lack of services because they will be on the hook for the lack of in-person supervision. Public schools are failing to provide 50%+ of the services they are required to perform.

So wait
You don’t get one part of the “service” (someone else babysitting your kids)
And you expect a FULL “refund” as compensation for... ???

Y’all are nuts lol