I wish all messages on DCUM were as helpful and supportive as this one is. Even those recommending something that perhaps the OP was hoping to not hear could do it with some decency but that seems to be lacking around here. |
He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college. |
My objection was to the authoritarian tone of the PP, that he hasn't "earned" college like it is some kind of reward you get from a boss or a coach. He doesn't know the kid and he's not the kid's parent. I will point out to you -- politely as the tone of your post warrants -- that you don't know that kid or where he would do well, nor the family's financial status. I agree community college might be a good choice for him, but it also might not. It's far more complicated. Lots of kids blossom on college. And I completely disagree with your "He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6". That's just factually untrue. There are plenty of good colleges that take kids from there and this thread is full of them. What I do know is "screw that lazy kid and his B-minuses!" is ridiculous, insensitive, and unhelpful. |
"tone" is about manners (i.e., how the message was delivered), and does not change the facts. while pp's delivery wasn't the message ("tone" of her message), it doesn't change the facts. don't focus on how it sounds, try to focus on what it says. your disagreement should be based on facts. - dp |
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I am a PP. One good thing about the US educational system is the multiple on-ramps to success.
Particularly for those with means. (This is not fair, but it is reality). If you can pay the tuition, it is easier. But, at any age, one can go to a CC than a transfer to a 4 yr college. In STEM, in particular, much of the systems are merit based. If you can do the work, you can succeed. Some people get it at 10, some people at 18, some people at 28. Late bloomers can be nearly as successful (they will lose a few years on the career). In another words, there is no reason to give up. |
No, I can disagree on tone if I like to. I find it offensive. And I also do disagree with the facts. |
| What about UVA-Wise? |
the OP says the kid is in a private now. They are paying money for the kid to barely make it though high school, so they'll probably be willing to pay a private SLAC to take the kids for 4 years and give him a degree. There are schools that are open admission that will essentially sell you the degree |
While the SAT is great, the GPA is too low. The weighted GPA for enrolled students last year at UVA-Wise was a 4.00 for 75th percentile, 3.66 Median and a 3.21 for bottom 25th percentile. |
| But those are for schools that report GPA, which typically excludes privates. The 2.6 is unweighted and there is usually a bump from private schools. |
And you are the one who called PP an a$$hole? |
OP, sorry I am just seeing this now and hope you are still reading (I can only imagine you may have checked out by now). Quick, apply to Loras College in Iowa. I had never heard of it and I am from the Midwest but I met a woman in law school who raved out about it. I laughed it off but she would have her college friends visit on the weekends and they were all great people. Fast forward to me having a ADHD + unspecified learning disability child looking at colleges. I spent so many nights awake worried about him. The thing is that the loves school, terrible at it but one of those kids who has no problem going to school each day. He had a 2.5 and 21 ACT when we started looking. Had him work with an essay coach since I knew he needed to tell his story. Dragged him kicking and screaming to Loras when I remembered it! He didn't hate it when we toured. He began to like it when he got in. We loved it when they gave him money to attend. It is a great place and their Lynch center is great for these kids. He may not make it out in 4 years but he currently has a 3.2 and is happy. I couldn't wish for anything more for him. There are colleges out there that will be a fit for your child. Keep your mind open and just look around. |
Do you guys realize that many private schools don't weigh most (if any) classes, and there aren't minimum grades just for trying? I think MCPS parents have an overblown opinion of how superior their kids are. |
a 2.6 is still very low. If the kid is really smart and somehow just has the worst luck getting tough graders in high school, then OP is paying a private to destroy DS's chance of getting into a decent college. There's a whole lot of irony there |
NP. I tend to agree with first PP. Some kids aren't ready and some aren't cut out for college. Nothing wrong with either of those things. |