Please Be Kind: 2.6 GPA

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hello OP,
My kid is similar to yours-- depression, anxiety + ADHD.
Would probably have ended up below a 3.0 but we moved her to a private high school.
SAT score was 1230. No extracurriculars.

We really liked McDaniel. Totally nurturing environment. She got about 30k in merit.
Aside from smaller class sizes and availability of professors, when you look at schools, pay attention to:
1) What kind of support and transition activities they do for freshmen.
2) Do they have a specialized tutoring center. (all schools will have tutoring but McDaniel was geared towards special needs- additional fee for that)
3) Do they have counseling/therapy services either at the school or nearby (although this may not be too big of a hurdle if we're still virtual in the Fall).

I really liked McDaniel's philosophy-- we're here to encourage you to take risks, but we're always ready with a safety net.. or something like that. Not a big deal for other kids but for kids like ours with depression and anxiety, this kind of environment is a must. My kid would not have done well in a sink or swim environment.

That being said, McDaniel ended up costing too much for us.

Our kid ended up going to a small public college with a very similar support system.
It has been amazing how much she has grown. I think being away from home was what helped her most.

I am a graduate of a community college myself but we didn't do NOVA because:
1) We didn't want her to live at home but she also wasn't ready to be on her own. Being in a dorm was a good next step.
2) The support system is not sufficient for what she needed.
3) She needed a peer group that was more similar to her- in mindset, in routine, etc.

The Covid restrictions this Fall was actually good for her. She was able to transition in slowly without the pressure of doing everything all at once.

Good luck OP! You're doing a great job doing all this research!


I wish all messages on DCUM were as helpful and supportive as this one is. Even those recommending something that perhaps the OP was hoping to not hear could do it with some decency but that seems to be lacking around here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college.


My objection was to the authoritarian tone of the PP, that he hasn't "earned" college like it is some kind of reward you get from a boss or a coach. He doesn't know the kid and he's not the kid's parent.

I will point out to you -- politely as the tone of your post warrants -- that you don't know that kid or where he would do well, nor the family's financial status. I agree community college might be a good choice for him, but it also might not. It's far more complicated. Lots of kids blossom on college. And I completely disagree with your "He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6". That's just factually untrue. There are plenty of good colleges that take kids from there and this thread is full of them.

What I do know is "screw that lazy kid and his B-minuses!" is ridiculous, insensitive, and unhelpful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college.


My objection was to the authoritarian tone of the PP, that he hasn't "earned" college like it is some kind of reward you get from a boss or a coach. He doesn't know the kid and he's not the kid's parent.

I will point out to you -- politely as the tone of your post warrants -- that you don't know that kid or where he would do well, nor the family's financial status. I agree community college might be a good choice for him, but it also might not. It's far more complicated. Lots of kids blossom on college. And I completely disagree with your "He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6". That's just factually untrue. There are plenty of good colleges that take kids from there and this thread is full of them.

What I do know is "screw that lazy kid and his B-minuses!" is ridiculous, insensitive, and unhelpful.


"tone" is about manners (i.e., how the message was delivered), and does not change the facts. while pp's delivery wasn't the message ("tone" of her message), it doesn't change the facts. don't focus on how it sounds, try to focus on what it says. your disagreement should be based on facts.

- dp
Anonymous
I am a PP. One good thing about the US educational system is the multiple on-ramps to success.

Particularly for those with means. (This is not fair, but it is reality). If you can pay the tuition, it is easier. But, at any age, one can go to a CC than a transfer to a 4 yr college.

In STEM, in particular, much of the systems are merit based. If you can do the work, you can succeed.

Some people get it at 10, some people at 18, some people at 28. Late bloomers can be nearly as successful (they will lose a few years on the career). In another words, there is no reason to give up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college.


My objection was to the authoritarian tone of the PP, that he hasn't "earned" college like it is some kind of reward you get from a boss or a coach. He doesn't know the kid and he's not the kid's parent.

I will point out to you -- politely as the tone of your post warrants -- that you don't know that kid or where he would do well, nor the family's financial status. I agree community college might be a good choice for him, but it also might not. It's far more complicated. Lots of kids blossom on college. And I completely disagree with your "He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6". That's just factually untrue. There are plenty of good colleges that take kids from there and this thread is full of them.

What I do know is "screw that lazy kid and his B-minuses!" is ridiculous, insensitive, and unhelpful.


"tone" is about manners (i.e., how the message was delivered), and does not change the facts. while pp's delivery wasn't the message ("tone" of her message), it doesn't change the facts. don't focus on how it sounds, try to focus on what it says. your disagreement should be based on facts.

- dp


No, I can disagree on tone if I like to. I find it offensive. And I also do disagree with the facts.
Anonymous
What about UVA-Wise?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college.


My objection was to the authoritarian tone of the PP, that he hasn't "earned" college like it is some kind of reward you get from a boss or a coach. He doesn't know the kid and he's not the kid's parent.

I will point out to you -- politely as the tone of your post warrants -- that you don't know that kid or where he would do well, nor the family's financial status. I agree community college might be a good choice for him, but it also might not. It's far more complicated. Lots of kids blossom on college. And I completely disagree with your "He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6". That's just factually untrue. There are plenty of good colleges that take kids from there and this thread is full of them.

What I do know is "screw that lazy kid and his B-minuses!" is ridiculous, insensitive, and unhelpful.


the OP says the kid is in a private now. They are paying money for the kid to barely make it though high school, so they'll probably be willing to pay a private SLAC to take the kids for 4 years and give him a degree. There are schools that are open admission that will essentially sell you the degree
Anonymous
Anonymous[b wrote:]What about UVA-Wise[/b]?



While the SAT is great, the GPA is too low. The weighted GPA for enrolled students last year at UVA-Wise was a 4.00 for 75th percentile, 3.66 Median and a 3.21 for bottom 25th percentile.
Anonymous
But those are for schools that report GPA, which typically excludes privates. The 2.6 is unweighted and there is usually a bump from private schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6 so paying for college is a moot point. That said, if he did get in somewhere with a 2.6 would you really want to toss 40-80K a year out on someone not prepared for college? Community college allows him to figure his stuff out without wasting money. He's not ready for college. A 2.6 in high school = failing in college.


My objection was to the authoritarian tone of the PP, that he hasn't "earned" college like it is some kind of reward you get from a boss or a coach. He doesn't know the kid and he's not the kid's parent.

I will point out to you -- politely as the tone of your post warrants -- that you don't know that kid or where he would do well, nor the family's financial status. I agree community college might be a good choice for him, but it also might not. It's far more complicated. Lots of kids blossom on college. And I completely disagree with your "He's not getting in anywhere with a 2.6". That's just factually untrue. There are plenty of good colleges that take kids from there and this thread is full of them.

What I do know is "screw that lazy kid and his B-minuses!" is ridiculous, insensitive, and unhelpful.


"tone" is about manners (i.e., how the message was delivered), and does not change the facts. while pp's delivery wasn't the message ("tone" of her message), it doesn't change the facts. don't focus on how it sounds, try to focus on what it says. your disagreement should be based on facts.

- dp


No, I can disagree on tone if I like to. I find it offensive. And I also do disagree with the facts.


And you are the one who called PP an a$$hole?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My DC has a 2.6 GPA (lower if you look at only core classes) at a (not big 3) DMV private. 1380 SAT. Applied EA to 10 colleges recommended by school counselor. Only one college has rolling admissions and it was on the “match” list. Wait listed. Very concerned DC won’t get in to college. Has anyone else been in a similar grade/SAT situation? If so, where did your child get accepted? Wondering whether DC should apply to a couple more safeties RD. DC needs a small nurturing college with good supports (tutoring, writing center, approachable professors). Thank you. Please no snarks. And please no suggestions for community college. Thank you.


OP, sorry I am just seeing this now and hope you are still reading (I can only imagine you may have checked out by now).

Quick, apply to Loras College in Iowa. I had never heard of it and I am from the Midwest but I met a woman in law school who raved out about it. I laughed it off but she would have her college friends visit on the weekends and they were all great people. Fast forward to me having a ADHD + unspecified learning disability child looking at colleges. I spent so many nights awake worried about him. The thing is that the loves school, terrible at it but one of those kids who has no problem going to school each day.

He had a 2.5 and 21 ACT when we started looking. Had him work with an essay coach since I knew he needed to tell his story. Dragged him kicking and screaming to Loras when I remembered it! He didn't hate it when we toured. He began to like it when he got in. We loved it when they gave him money to attend. It is a great place and their Lynch center is great for these kids. He may not make it out in 4 years but he currently has a 3.2 and is happy. I couldn't wish for anything more for him. There are colleges out there that will be a fit for your child. Keep your mind open and just look around.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But those are for schools that report GPA, which typically excludes privates. The 2.6 is unweighted and there is usually a bump from private schools.


Do you guys realize that many private schools don't weigh most (if any) classes, and there aren't minimum grades just for trying? I think MCPS parents have an overblown opinion of how superior their kids are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But those are for schools that report GPA, which typically excludes privates. The 2.6 is unweighted and there is usually a bump from private schools.


Do you guys realize that many private schools don't weigh most (if any) classes, and there aren't minimum grades just for trying? I think MCPS parents have an overblown opinion of how superior their kids are.


a 2.6 is still very low. If the kid is really smart and somehow just has the worst luck getting tough graders in high school, then OP is paying a private to destroy DS's chance of getting into a decent college. There's a whole lot of irony there
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid hasn't earned college. If he wants to go to college, he should now work hard in community college. Or he can try a trade. I personally, wouldn't waste money if he can't hack it.


"Tough guy" parent! You know what we call "tough guy" parents?

Assholes.

Also, if you made more money maybe you'd be more open to giving him time to figure out life instead of having to choose when he is 17.

Tough guy.


NP. I tend to agree with first PP. Some kids aren't ready and some aren't cut out for college. Nothing wrong with either of those things.
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