Choosing between Emory and UMich for engineering

[Anonymous]

I’m an engineer and I am not a fan of the 3+2 programs. I’ve talked to a lot of administrators at schools that have these programs and they say that the number of students who actually end up completing the program is very, very small. (Like, less than 10% small.) IMO 3/2 programs are just a marketing gimmick for schools to say they offer engineering. It's one of those things that sound good in theory but rarely works in reality. If you want engineering, go to a school that actually teaches it.

With Emory, I don't think it is good that the student can't taken engineering until his/her fourth year. I don't think it is possible to make an informed decision as to if engineering is a good field for a person until he/she starts to take some classes and understand what the field is about. With a 3+2 program, your student won't be able to take any engineering classes until after the school transfer is made, so he/she will have to make the upheaval in schools without knowing if he/she will like engineering at all. And if the transfer is made and the student decides after a semester he/she doesn't want engineering he/she will be in a new school with a major he/she doesn't want. IMO it is preferable to take some engineering early on (freshman year) so if a student decides that the field isn't for him/her there is plenty of time to change schedules/change majors within the same college. Also, the fact that is a guarantee you will have to pay for an extra year of undergrad is a negative IMO. There are lots of smaller schools that are similar in vibe to Emory that actually have their own engineering schools, such as Lehigh, Tufts, Villanova, Rochester (to name a few) so If the OP’s kid wants engineering as an option I'd recommend that he/she expand the search to other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a dual degree student at Emory and Georgia Tech. Emory does not have an engineering program so students do their engineering degree through Georgia Tech. It’s a 5, often 6 year program, so if you don’t want to go to two different schools for five or six years, look elsewhere. Also keep in mind that you can apply to Georgia Tech from any other school, not just Emory. There are many other colleges that have dual degree programs with GT, not just Emory.

It's basically a 3-2 engineering program. Hundreds of schools offer them. It's not an engineering program at Emory. It's pre-engineering at Emory and then trying to transfer to an engineering program at GA Tech. Admission to GA Tech's engineering program is not guaranteed. If this qualifies Emory as "having an engineering program" then hundreds of SLACs also have engineering programs. Bowdoin, Amherst, Oberline, Reed, Grinnell, Macalester and every other LAC that I can think of offer the same thing.

Emory doesn't have an engineering program.

Yeah. Very few schools have much success with 3-2 programs for a variety of reasons that are beyond the scope of this conversation. I wouldn’t recommend them. If an engineering degree is what you’re after but still want a strong liberal arts education, go to a school like Swarthmore, Lafayette, or Harvey Mudd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m an engineer and I am not a fan of the 3+2 programs. I’ve talked to a lot of administrators at schools that have these programs and they say that the number of students who actually end up completing the program is very, very small. (Like, less than 10% small.) IMO 3/2 programs are just a marketing gimmick for schools to say they offer engineering. It's one of those things that sound good in theory but rarely works in reality. If you want engineering, go to a school that actually teaches it.

With Emory, I don't think it is good that the student can't taken engineering until his/her fourth year. I don't think it is possible to make an informed decision as to if engineering is a good field for a person until he/she starts to take some classes and understand what the field is about. With a 3+2 program, your student won't be able to take any engineering classes until after the school transfer is made, so he/she will have to make the upheaval in schools without knowing if he/she will like engineering at all. And if the transfer is made and the student decides after a semester he/she doesn't want engineering he/she will be in a new school with a major he/she doesn't want. IMO it is preferable to take some engineering early on (freshman year) so if a student decides that the field isn't for him/her there is plenty of time to change schedules/change majors within the same college. Also, the fact that is a guarantee you will have to pay for an extra year of undergrad is a negative IMO. There are lots of smaller schools that are similar in vibe to Emory that actually have their own engineering schools, such as Lehigh, Tufts, Villanova, Rochester (to name a few) so If the OP’s kid wants engineering as an option I'd recommend that he/she expand the search to other schools.

Emory has a regular engineering program, it's not a 3/2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m an engineer and I am not a fan of the 3+2 programs. I’ve talked to a lot of administrators at schools that have these programs and they say that the number of students who actually end up completing the program is very, very small. (Like, less than 10% small.) IMO 3/2 programs are just a marketing gimmick for schools to say they offer engineering. It's one of those things that sound good in theory but rarely works in reality. If you want engineering, go to a school that actually teaches it.

With Emory, I don't think it is good that the student can't taken engineering until his/her fourth year. I don't think it is possible to make an informed decision as to if engineering is a good field for a person until he/she starts to take some classes and understand what the field is about. With a 3+2 program, your student won't be able to take any engineering classes until after the school transfer is made, so he/she will have to make the upheaval in schools without knowing if he/she will like engineering at all. And if the transfer is made and the student decides after a semester he/she doesn't want engineering he/she will be in a new school with a major he/she doesn't want. IMO it is preferable to take some engineering early on (freshman year) so if a student decides that the field isn't for him/her there is plenty of time to change schedules/change majors within the same college. Also, the fact that is a guarantee you will have to pay for an extra year of undergrad is a negative IMO. There are lots of smaller schools that are similar in vibe to Emory that actually have their own engineering schools, such as Lehigh, Tufts, Villanova, Rochester (to name a few) so If the OP’s kid wants engineering as an option I'd recommend that he/she expand the search to other schools.

Emory has a regular engineering program, it's not a 3/2

i can't with you.

[Anonymous]

Yeah but only at the Xanadu campus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On Emory's Website the top Employers for Emory College 2019
were...

Teach for America
Emory University
EY
BlackRock
National Institutes of Health
Google
Fulbright Program
Accenture
Goldman Sachs
Triage Consulting Group

AND this is for NON-Business students.

source?

I know you go to UMich but it can't be too hard for you. Google Emory career placement. You'll find it.

Duh, I can google. It does say anything about that list being non-business majors tho.

Yes it does, it's says Emory arts and sciences. The business school is separate at Emory, as well as the Nursing school.

[Anonymous]

Emory does have Computer Science and QTM both majors place very well in tech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Emory does have Computer Science and QTM both majors place very well in tech.

I am an Emory graduate and loved the school but heard nothing but mediocre things re: the comp sci department. If you can get into Emory you can get into a better school for CS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Emory's Website the top Employers for Emory College 2019
were...

Teach for America
Emory University
EY
BlackRock
National Institutes of Health
Google
Fulbright Program
Accenture
Goldman Sachs
Triage Consulting Group

AND this is for NON-Business students.

source?

I know you go to UMich but it can't be too hard for you. Google Emory career placement. You'll find it.

Duh, I can google. It does say anything about that list being non-business majors tho.

Yes it does, it's says Emory arts and sciences. The business school is separate at Emory, as well as the Nursing school.

Please stop lying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is my new favorite DCUM thread. Total insanity. Emory doesn’t have engineering but the nuts here won’t stop.

DS graduated from Emory engineering school - what are you talking about?

No DS did not.

Hahaha this is definitely the best college thread in a while!

[Anonymous]

https://apply.emory.edu/majors/engineering-sciences.html

[Anonymous]

The Emory portion does not appear to be ABET-accredited, though Georgia Tech would be.

[Anonymous]

Not accredited. It is housed within the physics dept.

BS in Engineering Sciences - If you are interested in professions that interface with engineers, such as engineering management and patent law; or you are planning to pursue a graduate degree in engineering.

Three tracks are available: Engineering Physics, Materials Science (which includes many chemistry courses), and Geosciences (which includes many courses in Environmental Science). Additional information can be found in our brochure.

http://www.physics.emory.edu/home/academic/undergraduate/degree-programs.html
http://www.physics.emory.edu/EngScience.pdf

So, not exactly ideal for becoming an engineer, though the path is there via grad school.

[Anonymous]

And as for the dual degree program with GT,

This partnership between Emory and Georgia Institute of Technology allows you to earn a BA or BS in any of Emory’s majors and then transfer to Georgia Tech to deepen your focus on engineering. Upon completion, you’ll have two bachelors degrees, one from Emory and one from Georgia Tech.

The program usually takes five to six years to complete

https://apply.emory.edu/majors/engineering-dual-degree.html

Students can complete a major in any subject offered by Emory College while completing the required pre-requisites for one of the programs offered through Georgia Tech.

The Dual Degree program is not an official major at Emory College.

http://college.emory.edu/dual-degree/engineering/explore-engineering.html

So, the options to become an engineer through Emory are: transfer to GT or go to grad school. Transferring involves an application to GT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://apply.emory.edu/majors/engineering-sciences.html

Good option if you don’t want to be an engineer.