I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad to be cheap? Last time I checked that was not one of the seven deadly sins.
I respect cheap people and think it is a good quality

Cheap is different from frugal. Cheap is at someone else’s expense.

Example: frugal is cooking all your own meals because it’s cheaper. Cheap is going out to eat, and leaving a 10% tip.

I don't get it. Why do people think they have a right to your money.
Frugal is ordering a cheap meal. Cheap is ordering what you want and then telling the others in your group that the bill must be split 4 ways

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad to be cheap? Last time I checked that was not one of the seven deadly sins.
I respect cheap people and think it is a good quality

Cheap is different from frugal. Cheap is at someone else’s expense.

Example: frugal is cooking all your own meals because it’s cheaper. Cheap is going out to eat, and leaving a 10% tip.

I don't get it. Why do people think they have a right to your money.
Frugal is ordering a cheap meal. Cheap is ordering what you want and then telling the others in your group that the bill must be split 4 ways

Funny how whenever someone suggests splitting check half the group ends up tipping for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad to be cheap? Last time I checked that was not one of the seven deadly sins.
I respect cheap people and think it is a good quality

Frugality is a virtue — economize, spend wisely. Being cheap is a character flaw. Don’t be cheap!

It is not a sin to be cheap. It is a virtue and a grace. Everybody doesn't need to constantly spend money or pay for useless stuff. I think media and corporations have made it a compulsion to be always spending money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My pet peeve is that now apparently we are supposed to tip for take out. Huh? I tip delivery because delivering is a service, and I tip if I sit down because table service is a service. Where is the service if I come and pick up food on my own? And people say that you should tip 20%!! I stopped patronizing a few restaurants in the area because their websites/apps defaulted to 20% tip for pickup!

The reason you tip for takeout from a restaurant (not a fastfood drive-thru) is that someone has to package your food specifically for that. We tip a flat $5.

Depends on the restaurant. If it's a sit-down restauant and the host or bartender is delivering your order, then a proper tip is necessary. At a place like Chipotle, I may throw a buck or two for takeout, but the difference here is that people working counter service are making a real wage. People waiting tables and/or bartending don't make a wage. Their salary is tips, thus I have no issue tipping 20% for sit-down dining. I agree that tipping culture is getting to be a little much. I especially detest ordering takeout and being given a line for gratuity on the receipt. All I've done is placed my order and you're already asking for a tip? Tips are usually based on services rendered. If all I've done is placed an order, I don't have much to go with regard to tipping. We don't order takeout too often, save for the occasional pizza. Takeout is too expensive, seems to take too long, and by the time you get it home not especially appetizing- not many foods IMHO travel well.

Disagree with tipping for a sit-down. Hostess people get a real wage. My favorite is a Chinese restaurant in Alexandria that does a lot of take out business and they strike out the tip line before they hand you the receipt to sign.

In some sit-down restaurants takeout is handled at the bar. Bartender definitely deserves a tip. 10 - 15% seems fine for this. I would probably give the same to a host/hostess, since this is an additional duty for them. That said, if we do takeout it's usually pizza, Chipotle, or Asian food. Takeout for us is usually about convenience.

[Anonymous]

Can someone calmly explain the rationale behind the “standard” % tip increasing from 15 to 18 to 20% , in sit down restaurants? I’m asking _how_ this happened over time.

I’m a former waiter who put herself through college and grad school by waiting tables. GenX, 1980s early 90s.

[I have an idea of how the percentage creep occurs *now,* with the use of swivel iPads and credit card receipts where the lowest choice of tip is actually the highest % that one would customarily choose and then the options go higher from there. I assume that creates a subconscious bias that becomes collective over a short time. ]

[Anonymous]

^^^ me again. But those tools didn’t exist until fairly recently, after tip creep was well underway

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad to be cheap? Last time I checked that was not one of the seven deadly sins.
I respect cheap people and think it is a good quality

Frugality is a virtue — economize, spend wisely. Being cheap is a character flaw. Don’t be cheap!

It is not a sin to be cheap. It is a virtue and a grace. Everybody doesn't need to constantly spend money or pay for useless stuff. I think media and corporations have made it a compulsion to be always spending money

Do you not understand the difference between “cheap” and “frugal?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad to be cheap? Last time I checked that was not one of the seven deadly sins.
I respect cheap people and think it is a good quality

Frugality is a virtue — economize, spend wisely. Being cheap is a character flaw. Don’t be cheap!

It is not a sin to be cheap. It is a virtue and a grace. Everybody doesn't need to constantly spend money or pay for useless stuff. I think media and corporations have made it a compulsion to be always spending money

Do you not understand the difference between “cheap” and “frugal?”

Clearly they don’t. And yet they also seem to understand that “cheap” is an insult, and are affronted at being thought so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well I definitely wish you guys would tip better for instacart. Instacart only pays full service shoppers about $10 per order. Shoppers are really dependent on customer tips. Most folks tip pizza delivery guys more than the person who just spent 60-90 minutes shopping for their groceries and delivering to the door. Sad!

This is a problem with the model, with Instacart. I am a good tipper. But can we please stop letting the companies off the hook! Can we demand a living minimum wage? Can we badger the company the way we badger low tippers. Why leave employees at the mercy of people's moods?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad to be cheap? Last time I checked that was not one of the seven deadly sins.
I respect cheap people and think it is a good quality

Frugality is a virtue — economize, spend wisely. Being cheap is a character flaw. Don’t be cheap!

It is not a sin to be cheap. It is a virtue and a grace. Everybody doesn't need to constantly spend money or pay for useless stuff. I think media and corporations have made it a compulsion to be always spending money

Do you not understand the difference between “cheap” and “frugal?”

Clearly they don’t. And yet they also seem to understand that “cheap” is an insult, and are affronted at being thought so.

I would take it as a compliment
There are so many idiots who think you owe them. Most of the people say that to anyone when they have to pay their own way

[Anonymous]

the worst is hair dresser tipping. $300 service and I am expected to tip an additional $60. As if $300 for cut, color and highlight isnt enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the worst is hair dresser tipping. $300 service and I am expected to tip an additional $60. As if $300 for cut, color and highlight isnt enough.

If you can easily part with $300 for something as intangible as your looks, I fail to understand why this would be a concern for you. And I’d tip at least $80. The time invested in you prevented or at least impacted other customers services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone calmly explain the rationale behind the “standard” % tip increasing from 15 to 18 to 20% , in sit down restaurants? I’m asking _how_ this happened over time.

I’m a former waiter who put herself through college and grad school by waiting tables. GenX, 1980s early 90s.

[I have an idea of how the percentage creep occurs *now,* with the use of swivel iPads and credit card receipts where the lowest choice of tip is actually the highest % that one would customarily choose and then the options go higher from there. I assume that creates a subconscious bias that becomes collective over a short time. ]

Cost of living has risen. Waitstaff pay hasn’t changed much. Any collective bias is positive, i’m sure you remember busting your ass with difficult customers revenue and left a quarter behaving as if they were gifting you a million bucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the worst is hair dresser tipping. $300 service and I am expected to tip an additional $60. As if $300 for cut, color and highlight isnt enough.

I also tip the person who shampoos my hair, usually $5. I hand it to her.

My hair stylist handed me off to so many people or made me wait while she worked on someone else. I am hoping she shares the tip since she is also the salon owner.

I used to ask the salon owners, "Do you take tips?" They used to say no because they own the salon.

[Anonymous]

I’m tired of these threads every few weeks. Tip....don’t tip. Your call. I’m happy to tip for services.