Recording all Zoom classes

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Honestly curious. Where will these kids go when the parents are working?

Childcare offers the kids to do their live school work.

If they are home by themselves, shouldn’t they at least be in online school?



That's a good question. There will be lots of different answers, temporary and permanent, cobbled-together and structured, safer and less safe. So let's assume that we don't know what every kid is doing, and also assume that some kids will be in less than ideal situations where it will be difficult for them to do the things that DCUM assumes everyone will be able to (or ought to be able to) do.
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that the union and some parents throw a fit, and MCPS has to atop recording classes. Ultimately they put up generic and inferior content like they did last years (those awful Eureka videos come to mind). And the kids who can’t make it regularly fall even further behind.


You're not a glass-half-empty person, are you? You're a that-glass-is-completely-empty-and-always-will-remain-so person.


No, I’ve just seen this all before. For example, they dumped the entire plan to do hybrid when the union threw a fit.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t bother me at all. Kids who can’t make it need access to the class. -Parent of 3rd grader


Why can't they make it? Did they miss the bus


For my kid it will be because she’s 5 and has working parents.


What did you do LAST year when she was 4 and had two working parents? That is what you do this year OR you put in childcare that has the learning pods for K.

I mean what is your plan? Work all day while your 5yr old does ??? and then at 6pm watch school videos when you are all exhausted. Give me a break


Do you understand that there are five year olds with two essential parents who can’t afford a pod or babysitter in this county? Check your privileges. -DP


Then what is the child doing all day that they can not be online? Sitting in a closet somewhere?!?
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t bother me at all. Kids who can’t make it need access to the class. -Parent of 3rd grader


Why can't they make it? Did they miss the bus


For my kid it will be because she’s 5 and has working parents.


What did you do LAST year when she was 4 and had two working parents? That is what you do this year OR you put in childcare that has the learning pods for K.

I mean what is your plan? Work all day while your 5yr old does ??? and then at 6pm watch school videos when you are all exhausted. Give me a break


Do you understand that there are five year olds with two essential parents who can’t afford a pod or babysitter in this county? Check your privileges. -DP


Then what is the child doing all day that they can not be online? Sitting in a closet somewhere?!?


PP, please try to use your imagination a little bit more, to think of possible circumstances involving people who are not you.
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Anonymous wrote:We received this email today from our school:

We will be recording lessons in order to support families and students, create flexibility in accessing learning experiences when attending live instruction is a barrier, and enhance the opportunity to review lesson content and resources.

When students first log in, their video and audio is off by default. If students should not be recorded, they should leave these off.

Recordings are protected, available only to students through a protected myMCPS site, unavailable for download, and will delete after 72 hours.

We recognize that even with these protections there may be students or families who do not want their children’s images or voices to be captured. If you would like to have your student opt out of being in the recording, they should keep their video off in each class from the start of the school year. Parents/guardians are asked to indicate an opt out in the Parent Vue portal by September 11, 2020.

This is the link to the Parent Vue Slide Deck providing families with information about activating the Parent Vue Account


But they just gave EVERY parent their student’s log-in information, right? And I already asked and each class won’t be coded for only certain kids. So basically anyone with or knows a MCPS log-in will have access for 72 hours. And of course it can be recorded by ANY outside device and MCPS will have no way of knowing what outside source recorded it. If they know if anyone recorded it at all. The stories of kids rocking back and forth in nightgowns on their bed during Zooms and where they ended on the Internet is disgusting. This will be a massive shit show.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t bother me at all. Kids who can’t make it need access to the class. -Parent of 3rd grader


Why can't they make it? Did they miss the bus


For my kid it will be because she’s 5 and has working parents.


What did you do LAST year when she was 4 and had two working parents? That is what you do this year OR you put in childcare that has the learning pods for K.

I mean what is your plan? Work all day while your 5yr old does ??? and then at 6pm watch school videos when you are all exhausted. Give me a break


Do you understand that there are five year olds with two essential parents who can’t afford a pod or babysitter in this county? Check your privileges. -DP


Then what is the child doing all day that they can not be online? Sitting in a closet somewhere?!?


Without parents there, the child could be doing anything.
That’s really why prioritizing in-person school is essential.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t bother me at all. Kids who can’t make it need access to the class. -Parent of 3rd grader


Why can't they make it? Did they miss the bus


For my kid it will be because she’s 5 and has working parents.


What did you do LAST year when she was 4 and had two working parents? That is what you do this year OR you put in childcare that has the learning pods for K.

I mean what is your plan? Work all day while your 5yr old does ??? and then at 6pm watch school videos when you are all exhausted. Give me a break


Do you understand that there are five year olds with two essential parents who can’t afford a pod or babysitter in this county? Check your privileges. -DP


Then what is the child doing all day that they can not be online? Sitting in a closet somewhere?!?


It's a diverse county. There will be kids in a lot of different situations. Like on snow days, I imagine some children will end up going to work with a parent. Internet access won't necessarily be available. Other kids will be at daycares or babysitters. Again, internet access might not be available, and even if it is, it might not be possible for the provider to supervise the other children while simultaneously staying near a student that's doing online classes (e.g., if others are doing outdoor activities). And even if that's not a problem, young children might not have sufficient support from caregivers to get online and deal with technical issues.

I also suspect some older children will ultimately be responsible for caring for their younger siblings while their parents are at work.

Anonymous
It's sort of amazing how many out-of-touch people are in Montgomery County that can't imagine what it's like to lead a non-privileged life. Are we seeing a particularly obtuse cross-section on DCUM?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When you go through ParentVue to set up your kids' information, there is a box that lets you opt-out of having your kid's image and voice appear on Zoom recordings. I opted out. Anyone worried about this issue should do the same. Hopefully then they will just record the teacher for future playback.


You are obviously free to do that, but it’s not like there is no consequence. It means your kid won’t be able to interact with the teacher and other students outside of breakout groups. That means they are going to get less out of class.
Anonymous
Posted this in another thread, but may be of interest here. I just listened to a presentation from my kid's elementary school. If you opt out of being recorded, your child has camera and microphone off in the main classroom. But they are encouraged to use reactions, respond to polls, and use the chat window to participate. In addition, breakout rooms aren't recorded, so they can have camera and microphone on there. Recordings will be posted for 72 hours in the Canvas classroom, so access should be limited to only those students who are in that classroom. If you don't show up live and instead view the recordings later, there's a way to confirm to the office that you "attended" and you need to do some sort of discussion/engagement activity for your teacher to show that you were engaged with the learning.
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Anonymous wrote:Posted this in another thread, but may be of interest here. I just listened to a presentation from my kid's elementary school. If you opt out of being recorded, your child has camera and microphone off in the main classroom. But they are encouraged to use reactions, respond to polls, and use the chat window to participate. In addition, breakout rooms aren't recorded, so they can have camera and microphone on there. Recordings will be posted for 72 hours in the Canvas classroom, so access should be limited to only those students who are in that classroom. If you don't show up live and instead view the recordings later, there's a way to confirm to the office that you "attended" and you need to do some sort of discussion/engagement activity for your teacher to show that you were engaged with the learning.


I imagine 2-3 teens tops in first period high school class. 😂
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Anonymous wrote:Posted this in another thread, but may be of interest here. I just listened to a presentation from my kid's elementary school. If you opt out of being recorded, your child has camera and microphone off in the main classroom. But they are encouraged to use reactions, respond to polls, and use the chat window to participate. In addition, breakout rooms aren't recorded, so they can have camera and microphone on there. Recordings will be posted for 72 hours in the Canvas classroom, so access should be limited to only those students who are in that classroom. If you don't show up live and instead view the recordings later, there's a way to confirm to the office that you "attended" and you need to do some sort of discussion/engagement activity for your teacher to show that you were engaged with the learning.


I imagine 2-3 teens tops in first period high school class. 😂


Agree! I feel bad for the high school teachers. This is a disaster.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's sort of amazing how many out-of-touch people are in Montgomery County that can't imagine what it's like to lead a non-privileged life. Are we seeing a particularly obtuse cross-section on DCUM?


DCUM's gonna DCUM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Posted this in another thread, but may be of interest here. I just listened to a presentation from my kid's elementary school. If you opt out of being recorded, your child has camera and microphone off in the main classroom. But they are encouraged to use reactions, respond to polls, and use the chat window to participate. In addition, breakout rooms aren't recorded, so they can have camera and microphone on there. Recordings will be posted for 72 hours in the Canvas classroom, so access should be limited to only those students who are in that classroom. If you don't show up live and instead view the recordings later, there's a way to confirm to the office that you "attended" and you need to do some sort of discussion/engagement activity for your teacher to show that you were engaged with the learning.


Didn’t I read somewhere that the chat function would be disabled?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Posted this in another thread, but may be of interest here. I just listened to a presentation from my kid's elementary school. If you opt out of being recorded, your child has camera and microphone off in the main classroom. But they are encouraged to use reactions, respond to polls, and use the chat window to participate. In addition, breakout rooms aren't recorded, so they can have camera and microphone on there. Recordings will be posted for 72 hours in the Canvas classroom, so access should be limited to only those students who are in that classroom. If you don't show up live and instead view the recordings later, there's a way to confirm to the office that you "attended" and you need to do some sort of discussion/engagement activity for your teacher to show that you were engaged with the learning.


Didn’t I read somewhere that the chat function would be disabled?


I saw that too. So now screens off, but chats on.
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