Overcrowding at Wilson

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Anonymous wrote:Wilson is pretty ghetto too, you all are fighting over scraps

Nice one troll. Id say this was a private school person by they wouldn't say "ghetto" - they'd talk about challenges and a lack of focus on the whole child. Either way, PPis clearly a racist asshole who is a likely Trump voter.

[Anonymous]

I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Yes, I have heard they have large classes. My neighbor complained that her son had 45 kids in his AP Chemistry class.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Nice bait and switch.

Honors for all is honors for none.

Dont worry, many of those kids wont bother showing up for their "honors" class.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Yes, I have heard they have large classes. My neighbor complained that her son had 45 kids in his AP Chemistry class.

Wow that is crazy and anyone can take AP classes at Wilson so it’s just like honors for all.....

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Nice bait and switch.

Honors for all is honors for none.

Dont worry, many of those kids wont bother showing up for their "honors" class.

No tracking but small classes so everyone can get to honor level the following year? Really??? And parents believed that BS when some of these kids are so far behind?

Oh then surprise, large classes still and now 10th is honors for all, physics is honors for all.

That’s right, it’s honors for none. Everyone gets the same no matter where they are. Why don’t we just call the school communism Wilson high.

[Anonymous]

I feel like Wilson peaked with Peter Cahill. So depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:Feel free to start advocating for some schools to be pulled out of the Wilson boundary. If Lafayette and Shepherd fed Wells and Coolidge, the EOTP PARCC scores would go up significantly and both feeder patterns would be closer to capacity. Even if 2/3 of the people IB for Lafayette and Shepherd moved or went private or went to selective high schools (they won't) it would still free up space at Wilson and create more diversity and higher test scores at Wells and Coolidge.

Shepherd gives 30 students a year. How does this help overcrowding??? Bus Janney or Murch

Pulling 90 students out of Deal and 120 out of Wilson obviously helps overcrowding. When redistricting it makes sense to reduce travel times and distances as much as possible; sending Shepherd to Wilson and Janney to Coolidge would not help with that.

I think everyone must suffer and worry about housing value and school performance, all HS should be lottery. It is the only fair and equitable solution. For all who chime in about white flight, it doesn’t matter.

Such a plan was a complete and utter failure in San Francisco and they are killing it off:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/SF-school-board-plans-to-replace-failing-school-13461014.php

DP. That was all schools, not HS only. It makes sense to have a ranking system. Especially with the new college HS options.

This is a stupid idea. Lottery makes no sense when there is one viable HS in DC. No parents are willing to mess with HS education. The stakes are too high. There is also no bus system in DC. You cannot force a student from AU Park to go to Anacostia HS without providing transportation when there is a HS 5min walk from where the student lives.

It would get sorted out. Likely an AU Park student would not go to Anacostia. They could go to Roosevelt, Coolidge or Wilson. I’m not sure why AU parents are so quick to inflict pain on others when you are so unwilling to shoulder pain yourself?! There are many students at Wilson who shoulder the burden of a commute and you get to should the pain of a crowded school. It’s a shared burden! Stop whining.

When the student or the family is shouldering it by choice, then it is a choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Nice bait and switch.

Honors for all is honors for none.

Dont worry, many of those kids wont bother showing up for their "honors" class.

No tracking but small classes so everyone can get to honor level the following year? Really??? And parents believed that BS when some of these kids are so far behind?

Oh then surprise, large classes still and now 10th is honors for all, physics is honors for all.

That’s right, it’s honors for none. Everyone gets the same no matter where they are. Why don’t we just call the school communism Wilson high.

I'm a parent of a 9th grader too - here's what got me with back to school night besides the fact that classes were not small

Lost track last night of how many teachers/clubs asked for donations due to the funding cut. Especially paper. Many of the teachers said that they wouldn't be giving duplicates of handouts this year due to their paper budget being drastically cut. Which is fine. But this raises multiple points.

1. No textbooks for the kids. The math teacher openly expressed frustration with this - the kids have some old text books to use as reference but essentially teachers hobble together lessons from multiple sources because DCPS keeps changing the curriculum without providing text books. Ergo...the need for more paper. Is this just the way things are now? I could see some classes working fine with this as things change but I can't imagine learning math/science cohesively without a text book.

3. Funding was cut - $170,000 but the Beacon article seems to say it's coming back in October 1 thanks to a bill from Mary Cheh. If that is the case - is the funding that was cut what is impacting the shortages to the teachers or is that because be a different funding source being cut? https://thewilsonbeacon.com/15410/news/wilson-loses-over-170000/

4. Does anyone know if funding went up based on enrollment?

5. One teacher last night told us that DCPS just puts everyone in bounds in the system - whether they have enrolled or not. And if parents do not directly contact the school - they stay there for the first month or two of school. WTF? How on earth can they plan? If that is true.

[Anonymous]

There is going to be a huge SES bump at Eastern in the coming years, fwiw. Many Hill parents with younger kids are committing to making it work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Nice bait and switch.

Honors for all is honors for none.

Dont worry, many of those kids wont bother showing up for their "honors" class.

No tracking but small classes so everyone can get to honor level the following year? Really??? And parents believed that BS when some of these kids are so far behind?

Oh then surprise, large classes still and now 10th is honors for all, physics is honors for all.

That’s right, it’s honors for none. Everyone gets the same no matter where they are. Why don’t we just call the school communism Wilson high.

I'm a parent of a 9th grader too - here's what got me with back to school night besides the fact that classes were not small

Lost track last night of how many teachers/clubs asked for donations due to the funding cut. Especially paper. Many of the teachers said that they wouldn't be giving duplicates of handouts this year due to their paper budget being drastically cut. Which is fine. But this raises multiple points.

1. No textbooks for the kids. The math teacher openly expressed frustration with this - the kids have some old text books to use as reference but essentially teachers hobble together lessons from multiple sources because DCPS keeps changing the curriculum without providing text books. Ergo...the need for more paper. Is this just the way things are now? I could see some classes working fine with this as things change but I can't imagine learning math/science cohesively without a text book.

3. Funding was cut - $170,000 but the Beacon article seems to say it's coming back in October 1 thanks to a bill from Mary Cheh. If that is the case - is the funding that was cut what is impacting the shortages to the teachers or is that because be a different funding source being cut? https://thewilsonbeacon.com/15410/news/wilson-loses-over-170000/

4. Does anyone know if funding went up based on enrollment?

5. One teacher last night told us that DCPS just puts everyone in bounds in the system - whether they have enrolled or not. And if parents do not directly contact the school - they stay there for the first month or two of school. WTF? How on earth can they plan? If that is true.

Per pupil funding was NOT cut. There are fewer high needs students so Wilson is getting less money in total. Part of the problem (not just at Wilson) is that earmarked funds for high needs students has not been spent on targeted interventions but to cover other needs. So the kids who need more didn’t get it, the overall funding needs were masked. And Wilson is not the other school going through this in the city.

Cut back on sports and clubs. Buy some textbooks. First things first.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Nice bait and switch.

Honors for all is honors for none.

Dont worry, many of those kids wont bother showing up for their "honors" class.

No tracking but small classes so everyone can get to honor level the following year? Really??? And parents believed that BS when some of these kids are so far behind?

Oh then surprise, large classes still and now 10th is honors for all, physics is honors for all.

That’s right, it’s honors for none. Everyone gets the same no matter where they are. Why don’t we just call the school communism Wilson high.

I'm a parent of a 9th grader too - here's what got me with back to school night besides the fact that classes were not small

Lost track last night of how many teachers/clubs asked for donations due to the funding cut. Especially paper. Many of the teachers said that they wouldn't be giving duplicates of handouts this year due to their paper budget being drastically cut. Which is fine. But this raises multiple points.

1. No textbooks for the kids. The math teacher openly expressed frustration with this - the kids have some old text books to use as reference but essentially teachers hobble together lessons from multiple sources because DCPS keeps changing the curriculum without providing text books. Ergo...the need for more paper. Is this just the way things are now? I could see some classes working fine with this as things change but I can't imagine learning math/science cohesively without a text book.

3. Funding was cut - $170,000 but the Beacon article seems to say it's coming back in October 1 thanks to a bill from Mary Cheh. If that is the case - is the funding that was cut what is impacting the shortages to the teachers or is that because be a different funding source being cut? https://thewilsonbeacon.com/15410/news/wilson-loses-over-170000/

4. Does anyone know if funding went up based on enrollment?

5. One teacher last night told us that DCPS just puts everyone in bounds in the system - whether they have enrolled or not. And if parents do not directly contact the school - they stay there for the first month or two of school. WTF? How on earth can they plan? If that is true.

Per pupil funding was NOT cut. There are fewer high needs students so Wilson is getting less money in total. Part of the problem (not just at Wilson) is that earmarked funds for high needs students has not been spent on targeted interventions but to cover other needs. So the kids who need more didn’t get it, the overall funding needs were masked. And Wilson is not the other school going through this in the city.

Cut back on sports and clubs. Buy some textbooks. First things first.

Students need those sports and clubs to stand out in college admissions it would make the school less competitive. Lots of students turn down Walls and Banneker because of it.

They need to push all teachers to go paperless...Google Docs, anyone??.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Yes, I have heard they have large classes. My neighbor complained that her son had 45 kids in his AP Chemistry class.

Clearly you know nothing and I could give a shit what your neighbor thinks. Why don’t you actually contribute something if you want to post, moron.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a 9th grader at Wilson. when we went to the school presentation by the principal (it was Deal night at Wilson I think), I think she said, if I understood correctly, that the "honor for all" thing in 9th grade was based on the fact that classes in 9th grade were small, 10-15 students, so all students could be properly followed and they could all get to honor level the following year. I was a little skeptical because I have done some volunteering in DCPS schools and saw kids who can barely read in 6th grade, literally. it would take a lot more than a class of 10 to help them learn a rigorous curriculum when they are unable to read 10 pages of a regular book. My kid started the year and in one of her classes, honor biology, there are 37 kids, 37!! in math there are 24, which is a lot better than 37 but certainly a lot more than 10.

Yes, I have heard they have large classes. My neighbor complained that her son had 45 kids in his AP Chemistry class.

Clearly you know nothing and I could give a shit what your neighbor thinks. Why don’t you actually contribute something if you want to post, moron.

NP: Having a bad day are you?

I am very interested in these anecdotes, second-hand or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Feel free to start advocating for some schools to be pulled out of the Wilson boundary. If Lafayette and Shepherd fed Wells and Coolidge, the EOTP PARCC scores would go up significantly and both feeder patterns would be closer to capacity. Even if 2/3 of the people IB for Lafayette and Shepherd moved or went private or went to selective high schools (they won't) it would still free up space at Wilson and create more diversity and higher test scores at Wells and Coolidge.

Shepherd gives 30 students a year. How does this help overcrowding??? Bus Janney or Murch

Pulling 90 students out of Deal and 120 out of Wilson obviously helps overcrowding. When redistricting it makes sense to reduce travel times and distances as much as possible; sending Shepherd to Wilson and Janney to Coolidge would not help with that.

I think everyone must suffer and worry about housing value and school performance, all HS should be lottery. It is the only fair and equitable solution. For all who chime in about white flight, it doesn’t matter.

Such a plan was a complete and utter failure in San Francisco and they are killing it off:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/SF-school-board-plans-to-replace-failing-school-13461014.php

DP. That was all schools, not HS only. It makes sense to have a ranking system. Especially with the new college HS options.

This is a stupid idea. Lottery makes no sense when there is one viable HS in DC. No parents are willing to mess with HS education. The stakes are too high. There is also no bus system in DC. You cannot force a student from AU Park to go to Anacostia HS without providing transportation when there is a HS 5min walk from where the student lives.

It would get sorted out. Likely an AU Park student would not go to Anacostia. They could go to Roosevelt, Coolidge or Wilson. I’m not sure why AU parents are so quick to inflict pain on others when you are so unwilling to shoulder pain yourself?! There are many students at Wilson who shoulder the burden of a commute and you get to should the pain of a crowded school. It’s a shared burden! Stop whining.

When the student or the family is shouldering it by choice, then it is a choice.

For real. I want to know who is going to “share the burden “ of the ridiculous rent I pay for our crappy home inbounds for Wilson.