Did you redshirt your August girl? Why or why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

Lol Who's frothing?

Up until the last couple pages, this thread was as low drama as any redshirting thread.

Yes, there were lots of parents thoughtfully answering and then the typical anti-redshirt nastiness. So, standard for DCUM.

Do you not like having your hypocrisy observed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

No worries... there won’t be any 7 year olds, only 6 year olds

There were 3 kids in my oldest’s class who turned 7 in kindergarten (in Apr and May)

Ok so the very end of the school year. And redshirting spring birthdays isn’t very common

I don’t know. It seems pretty common to me. But I don’t get wound up about it. It is a perfectly legitimate choice. I wouldn’t send my kid in to a situation I thought he would be behind the norm if I had a choice. In water is wet news style, UMC parents have a lot of choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

So change the laws.

For now, it's legal and a path that many parents choose to take. Have an issue? Talk to your state representatives and quit bitching about it.

You’re such a nasty piece of work! It’s just stunning. Please find a conscience and don’t be such a goddamned bitch to mothers who are more honest and braver than you. If that bothers you, change your message board habits.

What??? PP is totally right! She is not doing anything wrong or illegal. If you don’t want your kid at home for one more year or don’t have money for preschool, don’t be bitter about it. She is not dishonest AT ALL!

Let them eat cake!

This. It’s unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

You'd lose those bets. Ask yourself why you're so invested in this that you repeatedly accuse people you don't know anything about of hypocrisy. I didn't make a single comment that could fairly be described as ranting or frothing, and I didn't say one nasty thing about parents who redshirt. I certainly hope that you aren't representative of parents who do, though. You're not much of an ambassador for your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

So change the laws.

For now, it's legal and a path that many parents choose to take. Have an issue? Talk to your state representatives and quit bitching about it.

You’re such a nasty piece of work! It’s just stunning. Please find a conscience and don’t be such a goddamned bitch to mothers who are more honest and braver than you. If that bothers you, change your message board habits.

What??? PP is totally right! She is not doing anything wrong or illegal. If you don’t want your kid at home for one more year or don’t have money for preschool, don’t be bitter about it. She is not dishonest AT ALL!

Let them eat cake!

This. It’s unbelievable.

It is weird that people harp on this issue when UMC parents do SO MANY things to give their kids advantages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

So change the laws.

For now, it's legal and a path that many parents choose to take. Have an issue? Talk to your state representatives and quit bitching about it.

You’re such a nasty piece of work! It’s just stunning. Please find a conscience and don’t be such a goddamned bitch to mothers who are more honest and braver than you. If that bothers you, change your message board habits.

What??? PP is totally right! She is not doing anything wrong or illegal. If you don’t want your kid at home for one more year or don’t have money for preschool, don’t be bitter about it. She is not dishonest AT ALL!

Let them eat cake!

This. It’s unbelievable.

It is weird that people harp on this issue when UMC parents do SO MANY things to give their kids advantages.

Because they are hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

You'd lose those bets. Ask yourself why you're so invested in this that you repeatedly accuse people you don't know anything about of hypocrisy. I didn't make a single comment that could fairly be described as ranting or frothing, and I didn't say one nasty thing about parents who redshirt. I certainly hope that you aren't representative of parents who do, though. You're not much of an ambassador for your cause.

+1. PP is vicious and just hysterical.

I also don’t see where an honest person sees a parent paying for private or paying for the expense to move as the same as a competitive redshirter mom. How the hell is that the same? In the first two scenarios, you typically pay a real cost to try and honestly create an outcome. We can’t afford private so we don’t. We could afford to move to our best zoned area so we did, and we also accept that nothing is a straight line or certain. A mom who holds back a kid who has no areas of concern highlighted by an educated third party like a ped, teacher, or therapist is a cheat, and she knows it, and THAT’S why she’s screaming at you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

So change the laws.

For now, it's legal and a path that many parents choose to take. Have an issue? Talk to your state representatives and quit bitching about it.

You’re such a nasty piece of work! It’s just stunning. Please find a conscience and don’t be such a goddamned bitch to mothers who are more honest and braver than you. If that bothers you, change your message board habits.

What??? PP is totally right! She is not doing anything wrong or illegal. If you don’t want your kid at home for one more year or don’t have money for preschool, don’t be bitter about it. She is not dishonest AT ALL!

Let them eat cake!

This. It’s unbelievable.

It is weird that people harp on this issue when UMC parents do SO MANY things to give their kids advantages.

Because they are hypocrites.

You’re just a grimy cheater. You want your 7 year old to compete with another's 5 or 6 year old. Slow clap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

You'd lose those bets. Ask yourself why you're so invested in this that you repeatedly accuse people you don't know anything about of hypocrisy. I didn't make a single comment that could fairly be described as ranting or frothing, and I didn't say one nasty thing about parents who redshirt. I certainly hope that you aren't representative of parents who do, though. You're not much of an ambassador for your cause.

You certainly aren't representative of anti-redshirt posters on DCUM, then, so perhaps you should work on the company you keep.

I didn't redshirt. I just hate hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

So change the laws.

For now, it's legal and a path that many parents choose to take. Have an issue? Talk to your state representatives and quit bitching about it.

You’re such a nasty piece of work! It’s just stunning. Please find a conscience and don’t be such a goddamned bitch to mothers who are more honest and braver than you. If that bothers you, change your message board habits.

What??? PP is totally right! She is not doing anything wrong or illegal. If you don’t want your kid at home for one more year or don’t have money for preschool, don’t be bitter about it. She is not dishonest AT ALL!

Let them eat cake!

This. It’s unbelievable.

It is weird that people harp on this issue when UMC parents do SO MANY things to give their kids advantages.

Because they are hypocrites.

You’re just a grimy cheater. You want your 7 year old to compete with another's 5 or 6 year old. Slow clap.

I didn't redshirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

You'd lose those bets. Ask yourself why you're so invested in this that you repeatedly accuse people you don't know anything about of hypocrisy. I didn't make a single comment that could fairly be described as ranting or frothing, and I didn't say one nasty thing about parents who redshirt. I certainly hope that you aren't representative of parents who do, though. You're not much of an ambassador for your cause.

+1. PP is vicious and just hysterical.

I also don’t see where an honest person sees a parent paying for private or paying for the expense to move as the same as a competitive redshirter mom. How the hell is that the same? In the first two scenarios, you typically pay a real cost to try and honestly create an outcome. We can’t afford private so we don’t. We could afford to move to our best zoned area so we did, and we also accept that nothing is a straight line or certain. A mom who holds back a kid who has no areas of concern highlighted by an educated third party like a ped, teacher, or therapist is a cheat, and she knows it, and THAT’S why she’s screaming at you.

No, as I said in a different post, I just hate hypocrites. I didn't redshirt. You just don't like the fact that it's obvious you are a hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish people HAD to send their kids on time unless the kids are special needs. I have two summer babies and I'd like to send them on time, but not if it means they're the only 5 year olds in a Kindergarten of 7 year olds.

So change the laws.

For now, it's legal and a path that many parents choose to take. Have an issue? Talk to your state representatives and quit bitching about it.

You’re such a nasty piece of work! It’s just stunning. Please find a conscience and don’t be such a goddamned bitch to mothers who are more honest and braver than you. If that bothers you, change your message board habits.

What??? PP is totally right! She is not doing anything wrong or illegal. If you don’t want your kid at home for one more year or don’t have money for preschool, don’t be bitter about it. She is not dishonest AT ALL!

Let them eat cake!

This. It’s unbelievable.

It is weird that people harp on this issue when UMC parents do SO MANY things to give their kids advantages.

Because they are hypocrites.

You’re just a grimy cheater. You want your 7 year old to compete with another's 5 or 6 year old. Slow clap.

I didn't redshirt.

And neither did I. But it’s a cheat.

[Anonymous]

Have a Sep born and NO I didn't redshirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

You'd lose those bets. Ask yourself why you're so invested in this that you repeatedly accuse people you don't know anything about of hypocrisy. I didn't make a single comment that could fairly be described as ranting or frothing, and I didn't say one nasty thing about parents who redshirt. I certainly hope that you aren't representative of parents who do, though. You're not much of an ambassador for your cause.

+1. PP is vicious and just hysterical.

I also don’t see where an honest person sees a parent paying for private or paying for the expense to move as the same as a competitive redshirter mom. How the hell is that the same? In the first two scenarios, you typically pay a real cost to try and honestly create an outcome. We can’t afford private so we don’t. We could afford to move to our best zoned area so we did, and we also accept that nothing is a straight line or certain. A mom who holds back a kid who has no areas of concern highlighted by an educated third party like a ped, teacher, or therapist is a cheat, and she knows it, and THAT’S why she’s screaming at you.

No, as I said in a different post, I just hate hypocrites. I didn't redshirt. You just don't like the fact that it's obvious you are a hypocrite.

You really enjoy name-calling. It’s not hypocritical for me to live in a nicer home that we pay for, in a district that does well. I have a youngest in class and roles with it. We PAID for our home. We didn’t lie, to ourselves or anyone else, about anything. We didn’t claim our child couldn’t follow rules set for our zoned school. Be your age and stop name-calling. I did not do anything wrong, or to disadvantage another family or child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent largely consists of crazy hypocrites, having seen many of these threads. These are not rational people.

+1

Hateful nut jobs with nothing better to do than worry about what other families are doing.

What's hypocritical about sending your kid on time and wishing that other parents would do the same? I put my money where my mouth is--my kid's birthday is very close to the cutoff, and she went on time. So far as I can tell (based on classroom birthdays), so did her classmates. Which is good--it means that the teacher is dealing with kids within a one-year, not an 18-month, age range, and can have developmentally appropriate expectations for the class in terms of behavior and academic abilities. Seems pretty rational to me.

Yet I'll bet you either use private school or moved to a fancy school district. I bet you supplement outside of school. I bet you wouldn't dream of sending your child to a high school with a large number of disadvantaged kids. Ask yourself what has a greater societal impact on other kids. Or have you never thought of that in all your self-congratulatory smugness?

You anti-redshirt posters get yourselves tied in self-congratulatory knots over redshirting but can never point to a single well-run, peer-reviewed study over an large population cohort that shows all the (imaginary) harms you come up with, let alone multiple studies that duplicate the approach and results. Yet there is literally 60 years of well-documented research on the impact of school population segregation and access to educational resources that you happily ignore.

You froth on about redshirting, as far as I can tell only because it feeds your ego because God knows you can never produce any large body of rigorous research to support your ranting, but you would never take the concrete steps you could take to actually positively impact others, since you seem to care ever so much about how other people's educational decisions impact others.

Put your money where your mouth is, as you say. Or did you not actually mean it?

Hypocrite.

You'd lose those bets. Ask yourself why you're so invested in this that you repeatedly accuse people you don't know anything about of hypocrisy. I didn't make a single comment that could fairly be described as ranting or frothing, and I didn't say one nasty thing about parents who redshirt. I certainly hope that you aren't representative of parents who do, though. You're not much of an ambassador for your cause.

+1. PP is vicious and just hysterical.

I also don’t see where an honest person sees a parent paying for private or paying for the expense to move as the same as a competitive redshirter mom. How the hell is that the same? In the first two scenarios, you typically pay a real cost to try and honestly create an outcome. We can’t afford private so we don’t. We could afford to move to our best zoned area so we did, and we also accept that nothing is a straight line or certain. A mom who holds back a kid who has no areas of concern highlighted by an educated third party like a ped, teacher, or therapist is a cheat, and she knows it, and THAT’S why she’s screaming at you.

No, as I said in a different post, I just hate hypocrites. I didn't redshirt. You just don't like the fact that it's obvious you are a hypocrite.

You really enjoy name-calling. It’s not hypocritical for me to live in a nicer home that we pay for, in a district that does well. I have a youngest in class and roles with it. We PAID for our home. We didn’t lie, to ourselves or anyone else, about anything. We didn’t claim our child couldn’t follow rules set for our zoned school. Be your age and stop name-calling. I did not do anything wrong, or to disadvantage another family or child.

Wow. This is one of the most tone deaf and out of touch things I have read here. And that is saying something! Man.