? So you're saying that people who rise from the dead and those who go to heaven via the rapture go to two different heavens? |
Wasn't the Holocaust a lot of people CHOOSING to rape, murder and steal? God is on record as being against that. |
You are condemned for your sins. Belief is leading to salvation, and Christ died to give you that option. You're not condemned for not believing -- you're condemned for sinning, and not believing gives you no recourse. Look at it this way, God judges you for your sin, but He also came to earth to die as the penalty for those sins, and that's your defense. Try any other court where the judge provides your defense. Yes, I will spend eternity praising the LORD for humbling Himself to the point of death on a cross even though I'm the guilty one. And it will be awesome. You will lose the chance to do this after you die. It would be good to give it some more complete thought. |
Wow - talk about drinking the Kool Aide! |
are the angels in heaven asexual? Are they those chubby babies with wings in the paintings? |
Well, if the choice is between eternal praising in heaven or eternal burning in hell, most would choose praising, but it certainly doesn't sound like the eternal reward that people expect. |
DP.. that's the basis of the Christian faith. John 3:16, and yes, per the Bible, the Angels spend their time praising God, and per that verse in the Bible, when we die, we are going to be like Angels. You don't have to believe it. We still have religious freedom in this country. Are you in this forum to simply mock people who believe in the teachings of their faith? Should we mock Jews for their beliefs or Muslims? |
As much as Jesus is a white man with blue eyes. |
Indeed. If people think it's living like you're rich and thin, then no, that's not heaven. |
Heaven is the zillions of righteous people who have ever lived continuously praising God. He can't get enough of it and besides, he deserves it for sending his only son to be crucified for our sins |
I know you think you're making a good case for your version of God, but honestly, reading what you wrote it just makes me feel even more distant from the idea of an anthropomorphic deity. |
Doesn't the idea of eternity scare the daylight out of you? When does it ever end?? Never. That really freaks me out. |
The unknown is always scary. I was recently in a car accident. I could've died, and ever since then, I've been thinking a lot about death. It's a scary thought.. what really does happen when you die? Even though I'm a Christian, the thought of what exactly happens when you die is scary. You do hear about near death experiences where people say it was a peaceful feeling. So, I guess I can take some comfort in that. |
The Bible is not "very clear" on homosexuality. It is very clear against sexual immortality. There is no mention of monogamous same sex relations. The type of homosexuality that existed in biblical times were primarily heterosexuals who also had sex with male boys. Not the same. We sure don't beat up adulterers nearly as much as homosexuals - which the Bible is clear about adultery being a sin. And the Bible has pretty strict rules about getting remarried after getting a divorce but most Christians ignore those rules. I don't understand the obsession with homosexuality... And to take Paul's words about women at face value to cover all women in leadership positions, you sure have to ignore a lot of other bible verses where women were in leadership roles (like deacons and prophets) - which I'm sure was pretty radical back in the day. Read a little more broadly - there is a lot of excellent scholarship on these topics but not from publishing houses where they practice censorship. You don't get your best thoughts when people can't struggle with things that we need to struggle over (like a lot of "Christian" and Baptist books. |
It is a strange concept to grasp. When I was a kid I thought that heaven is like one long everlasting church service. |