Amazon's Reality Check for MD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the key here is "20 years ago" pp.

Also tiny MD (mostly DC bordering state) may be richer than huge VA but NOVA specifically is blasting past People's Republic of MD.

as business escapes MD their share of the DC Areas economy will continue to fall. everyone from MD publications and officials to Wapo see this. But go ahead and ignore the issues, NOVA thanks you for absorbing the regional crime and being weak competition where economic development is concerned.

Oh sweetie, bless your heart. You're so cute. #ignoranceisbliss

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Glad MOCO didn’t sell their souls to Amazon. All those tax breaks and incentives are a form of government assistance, aka welfare to the employees.

Except for the fact Virginia negotiated a great deal, and didn't "sell its soul." It gave Amazon less than HALF the incentives that NYC did, and nothing close to that $8 billion whopper MD offered. New York ends up paying about $60,000 per job for HQ2, Virginia will pay $23,000 per job. But yeah, we're so much better off without Discovery. Or Amazon. Or whatever.

+1 Virginia's incentives are among the lowest yet they won the bid. MoCo's basically threw themselves at Amazon with it's $8B bid and still nothing. I am a MoCo resident and getting disturbed by Maryland's inability to attract more businesses. All I see is residential homes popping up and no real plans to accommodate the new population. If you think your public schools with a 28:1 kid ratio with no aid, I can't imagine what it will be like in a few years.

Maryland is for losers....state has been on the decline for some time now....nothing there..

Apparently VA is for gun lovers since the NRA chose to have its HQ there, and VA allows gun stores to open up next to schools. You can keep both Amazon, the NRA, and the "don't tread on me" gun nuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the key here is "20 years ago" pp.

Also tiny MD (mostly DC bordering state) may be richer than huge VA but NOVA specifically is blasting past People's Republic of MD.

as business escapes MD their share of the DC Areas economy will continue to fall. everyone from MD publications and officials to Wapo see this. But go ahead and ignore the issues, NOVA thanks you for absorbing the regional crime and being weak competition where economic development is concerned.

Oh sweetie, bless your heart. You're so cute. #ignoranceisbliss

Sweetie here you go sugar.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/homicides/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cc8d3aaf205

See all those little dots in MD hon, those are homicides. See how there are a galaxy of them in MD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why still argue about this? MoCo didn't lose Amazon, it lost half the Amazon...nor did it lose something it never had. Lost the bid....that was changed by Bezos and not a good deal at half the jobs, half the infrastructure, half everything... Again, the decline state is richest in the union and has most millionaires per capita. I guess it is not a bad way to decline.

That is true, but what's it really mean? Sure we have a lot of millionaires in Bethesda, Potomac & Chevy Chase - but how many opportunities is that creating for the 95% who aren't? I think we have a fairly robust small business community, but where VA is killing us is in big corporate investment. Ultimately that is going to have a far bigger economic impact than our "millionaire community." And those corporate taxes are what allow jurisdictions to spend money without drastically increasing our income and property tax rates. And your criticism of Amazon's "half deal" ignores the fact that VA offered far less in incentives and still won the bid. But who cares, right? We got millionaires!

[Anonymous]

You can keep the traffic jams and crowds that will come from this. We'll keep some trees and cleaner air.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can keep the traffic jams and crowds that will come from this. We'll keep some trees and cleaner air.

What? Bethesda and Rockville are horribly congested with nary a tree in sight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the key here is "20 years ago" pp.

Also tiny MD (mostly DC bordering state) may be richer than huge VA but NOVA specifically is blasting past People's Republic of MD.

as business escapes MD their share of the DC Areas economy will continue to fall. everyone from MD publications and officials to Wapo see this. But go ahead and ignore the issues, NOVA thanks you for absorbing the regional crime and being weak competition where economic development is concerned.

Oh sweetie, bless your heart. You're so cute. #ignoranceisbliss

Sweetie here you go sugar.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/homicides/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cc8d3aaf205

See all those little dots in MD hon, those are homicides. See how there are a galaxy of them in MD?

231 homicides in 2018 on the MD side of the Potomac vs 32 on the VA side? It’s no wonder that Amazon decided on the less crime-ridden area. VA is blessed.

Get your house in order, MD, and maybe the next business won’t cut you out of the action.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can keep the traffic jams and crowds that will come from this. We'll keep some trees and cleaner air.

What? Bethesda and Rockville are horribly congested with nary a tree in sight.

That's not all of Maryland, now is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the key here is "20 years ago" pp.

Also tiny MD (mostly DC bordering state) may be richer than huge VA but NOVA specifically is blasting past People's Republic of MD.

as business escapes MD their share of the DC Areas economy will continue to fall. everyone from MD publications and officials to Wapo see this. But go ahead and ignore the issues, NOVA thanks you for absorbing the regional crime and being weak competition where economic development is concerned.

Oh sweetie, bless your heart. You're so cute. #ignoranceisbliss

Sweetie here you go sugar.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/homicides/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cc8d3aaf205

See all those little dots in MD hon, those are homicides. See how there are a galaxy of them in MD?

231 homicides in 2018 on the MD side of the Potomac vs 32 on the VA side? It’s no wonder that Amazon decided on the less crime-ridden area. VA is blessed.

Get your house in order, MD, and maybe the next business won’t cut you out of the action.

The main drag in Crystal City honors a Confederate leader. Get your house in order, bitch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can keep the traffic jams and crowds that will come from this. We'll keep some trees and cleaner air.

What? Bethesda and Rockville are horribly congested with nary a tree in sight.

That's not all of Maryland, now is it?

Wow we have done a lot of raking in Rockville for a community with no trees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why still argue about this? MoCo didn't lose Amazon, it lost half the Amazon...nor did it lose something it never had. Lost the bid....that was changed by Bezos and not a good deal at half the jobs, half the infrastructure, half everything... Again, the decline state is richest in the union and has most millionaires per capita. I guess it is not a bad way to decline.

That is true, but what's it really mean? Sure we have a lot of millionaires in Bethesda, Potomac & Chevy Chase - but how many opportunities is that creating for the 95% who aren't? I think we have a fairly robust small business community, but where VA is killing us is in big corporate investment. Ultimately that is going to have a far bigger economic impact than our "millionaire community." And those corporate taxes are what allow jurisdictions to spend money without drastically increasing our income and property tax rates. And your criticism of Amazon's "half deal" ignores the fact that VA offered far less in incentives and still won the bid. But who cares, right? We got millionaires!

This. The new wealth being created is significantly more than MD. In 10 years the level of wealth and development in Arlington/Alexandria will increase significantly as more Amazon, Nestle, start-ups servicing tech companies move in. 10 years is a very short period of time for planning purposes and we literally have zero plans (lets get more anti-development politicians in office) other than living off our glory days. The change is so pronounced that "In 1983, the region’s economic activity, which reflects job growth, was split equally among Northern Virginia, Washington and the Maryland suburbs, he said. By last year, Northern Virginia’s share had grown to 48 percent, while the Maryland suburbs held about steady with 31 percent, and Washington had dropped to 21 percent." (from Washington Post).

If this does not make the fact obvious that Maryland is being consistently being beaten by NOVA on the economic front, not sure what is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the key here is "20 years ago" pp.

Also tiny MD (mostly DC bordering state) may be richer than huge VA but NOVA specifically is blasting past People's Republic of MD.

as business escapes MD their share of the DC Areas economy will continue to fall. everyone from MD publications and officials to Wapo see this. But go ahead and ignore the issues, NOVA thanks you for absorbing the regional crime and being weak competition where economic development is concerned.

Oh sweetie, bless your heart. You're so cute. #ignoranceisbliss

Sweetie here you go sugar.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/homicides/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cc8d3aaf205

See all those little dots in MD hon, those are homicides. See how there are a galaxy of them in MD?

231 homicides in 2018 on the MD side of the Potomac vs 32 on the VA side? It’s no wonder that Amazon decided on the less crime-ridden area. VA is blessed.

Get your house in order, MD, and maybe the next business won’t cut you out of the action.

The name will change, but better to honor a dead Confederate from the 1860s than bury hundreds of homicide victims in 2018.

The main drag in Crystal City honors a Confederate leader. Get your house in order, bitch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the poster is getting it backwards. The estimate I saw showed a majority in VA

Who in their right mind would want to drive over that bridge every day if they didn’t have to??

[Anonymous]

Honestly - these fools in Maryland think it’s ‘no big deal’ and ‘at least we were in the top 20!’. Newsflash - everyone does NOT get a trophy.

Hans Riemer thinks it’s hecause we don’t have enough rapid buses. No one wants to ride on a damned rapid bus.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/marylands-amazon-loss-prompts-questions-about-its-competitiveness/2018/12/03/c568085c-e930-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html

But hey - we get a new zillion dollar day laborer job center.
Much fanfare and happiness from CASA Montgomery - an organization which is highly interested in getting low wage jobs for Latin American immigrants but this does not grow our economy here. We are in deep trouble here in MoCo.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/news/county-officials-dedicate-new-immigrant-worker-center-in-wheaton/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can keep the traffic jams and crowds that will come from this. We'll keep some trees and cleaner air.

What? Bethesda and Rockville are horribly congested with nary a tree in sight.

That's not all of Maryland, now is it?

Wow we have done a lot of raking in Rockville for a community with no trees.

+1 ha I was thinking the same thing. Lots of places in NoVa is like a concrete jungle, especially Tysons area. And I'm originally from LA.