Takoma, Easter Magnets. MCPS Pilots Universal Evaluation Process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfounded assumptions being bandied about here without any evidence to support them with regards to less affluent demographic groups is what I find most appalling. It's just sewing dissent and blatant fear-mongering without a basis in fact.

That's what happens when information is being withheld from the public, people speculate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfounded assumptions being bandied about here without any evidence to support them with regards to less affluent demographic groups is what I find most appalling. It's just sewing dissent and blatant fear-mongering without a basis in fact.

That's what happens when information is being withheld from the public, people speculate.

No, it's not MCPS's fault that people are speculating that MCPS deliberately and illegally admitted undeserving black and Hispanic kids instead of deserving Asian-American kids. That's on the speculators themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Go check the maryland report card. There are statistics on the test performance of all demographic groups. It's a fact that certain groups do better than others (by a lot) if you don't know yet. Why is that I don't know, but it's for sure that turning the magnet admission in a quota system won't solve the problem.

MCPS is not turning the magnet admission into a quota system.

[Anonymous]

at least we know in 4 years what the ENTIRE (not just top quarter) magnet cohort will accomplish.

took c2.0 8 years to terminate. Plus 1 more bonus year due to erick lang running a curriculum RFP process WHILE INTERVIEWING at curriculum providers. Jack@$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfounded assumptions being bandied about here without any evidence to support them with regards to less affluent demographic groups is what I find most appalling. It's just sewing dissent and blatant fear-mongering without a basis in fact.

That's what happens when information is being withheld from the public, people speculate.

No, it's not MCPS's fault that people are speculating that MCPS deliberately and illegally admitted undeserving black and Hispanic kids instead of deserving Asian-American kids. That's on the speculators themselves.

So true and no matter what MCPS does here some people are going to find something to complain about. Best to just do the best they can to identify the highest caliber students from the much larger applicant pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS Pilots Universal Evaluation Process for Middle School Magnet Programs

School system tests new selection method in effort to increase diversity in highly gifted centers

Very nice article with very easy to read and understand stats and graphics included:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-pilots-universal-evaluation-process-for-middle-school-magnet-programs/

Yes, Spring 2018 MCPS changed the CES and magnet acceptance process in 2 ways.
1) A child does not formally apply, write essays or show interest. Now 4000+ are automatically put in the applicant pool.
2) The factors for selecting admitted students also changed. Out with student essay, a teacher recommendation and heavily weighting grades and test scores. Replaced with a new factor, "peer cohort" where if your deemed an outlier (somehow, no data provided) relative to your school (not pool of potential admits), you get some juicy bonus points.

Basically it is at discretion of MCPS who to admit whilst they craft their statistically diverse group of CES and magnet admits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfounded assumptions being bandied about here without any evidence to support them with regards to less affluent demographic groups is what I find most appalling. It's just sewing dissent and blatant fear-mongering without a basis in fact.

That's what happens when information is being withheld from the public, people speculate.

No, it's not MCPS's fault that people are speculating that MCPS deliberately and illegally admitted undeserving black and Hispanic kids instead of deserving Asian-American kids. That's on the speculators themselves.

So true and no matter what MCPS does here some people are going to find something to complain about. Best to just do the best they can to identify the highest caliber students from the much larger applicant pool.

I have an idea to ID highest caliber students! Take the highest test scoring kids over the last 24 months of tests - MAP, PARCC, COGAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, Spring 2018 MCPS changed the CES and magnet acceptance process in 2 ways.
1) A child does not formally apply, write essays or show interest. Now 4000+ are automatically put in the applicant pool.
2) The factors for selecting admitted students also changed. Out with student essay, a teacher recommendation and heavily weighting grades and test scores. Replaced with a new factor, "peer cohort" where if your deemed an outlier (somehow, no data provided) relative to your school (not pool of potential admits), you get some juicy bonus points.

Basically it is at discretion of MCPS who to admit whilst they craft their statistically diverse group of CES and magnet admits.

Yes, it is now at the discretion of MCPS, whereas previously it was: at the discretion of MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, Spring 2018 MCPS changed the CES and magnet acceptance process in 2 ways.
1) A child does not formally apply, write essays or show interest. Now 4000+ are automatically put in the applicant pool.
2) The factors for selecting admitted students also changed. Out with student essay, a teacher recommendation and heavily weighting grades and test scores. Replaced with a new factor, "peer cohort" where if your deemed an outlier (somehow, no data provided) relative to your school (not pool of potential admits), you get some juicy bonus points.

Basically it is at discretion of MCPS who to admit whilst they craft their statistically diverse group of CES and magnet admits.

Yes, it is now at the discretion of MCPS, whereas previously it was: at the discretion of MCPS.

And, of course, more diverse because the new method is more inclusive. Race is not a criterion nor is that legal, but apparently some angry tiger moms would like people to believe otherwise so they keep saying it despite a lack of any evidence to support this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, Spring 2018 MCPS changed the CES and magnet acceptance process in 2 ways.
1) A child does not formally apply, write essays or show interest. Now 4000+ are automatically put in the applicant pool.
2) The factors for selecting admitted students also changed. Out with student essay, a teacher recommendation and heavily weighting grades and test scores. Replaced with a new factor, "peer cohort" where if your deemed an outlier (somehow, no data provided) relative to your school (not pool of potential admits), you get some juicy bonus points.

Basically it is at discretion of MCPS who to admit whilst they craft their statistically diverse group of CES and magnet admits.

Yes, it is now at the discretion of MCPS, whereas previously it was: at the discretion of MCPS.

And, of course, more diverse because the new method is more inclusive. Race is not a criterion nor is that legal, but apparently some angry tiger moms would like people to believe otherwise so they keep saying it despite a lack of any evidence to support this.

Gotta have some excuse for why their child wasn’t anointed.

[Anonymous]

Starr wanted more Hispanics and blacks in the HGC and magnet programs so MCPS let in more kids from schools with high concentrations of those students.

[Anonymous]

It’s not by race, it’s by neighborhoods mostly of certain URM race and ethnicities. Totally legal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not by race, it’s by neighborhoods mostly of certain URM race and ethnicities. Totally legal!

Huh. I wonder what historical phenomenon could have resulted in highly segregated neighborhoods?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not by race, it’s by neighborhoods mostly of certain URM race and ethnicities. Totally legal!

You could just say "it's by neighborhoods where most people are black and/or Hispanic".

Which would be factually incorrect, and would also raise questions about why, in 2018, we have neighborhoods in Montgomery County that are highly segregated by race/ethnicity, but at least you'd be saying what you meant.

[Anonymous]

Oh stop. MCPS found more high scoring kids. It also started to use the COGAT correctly. COGAtT creators state it should not be used to try to differentiate the last percentile. They also state it should not be the sole determinant of entry into any program. This is difficult news for parents who want to believe there is statistically valid meaning in the difference between their child's 99.7 percentile score and another child's 99.0.