are AP exams really necessary?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would vote for doing away with AP CLASSES altogether.

Let them start taking college classes...when they hit college.

The real requires people of different intellectual capabilities to work together.

I think it is a big money-making scam. It also makes school administrators feel superior, based upon the performance of their students.


Everyone knows it is a scam. Look at the high failure rate. That is the only reason colleges still accept them. If the majority were passing, colleges would say no thanks. Actually schools are Harvard and others are no longer accepting any AP’s, any score. Even 5.


Even schools that don't accept AP *credit*, still consider AP classes as worthwhile. These classes should be looked at as "preparatory" courses for college, getting the student ready for higher level critical thinking. If you get credit, awesome. If not, it helped to prepare the student for college courses.
Anonymous
Decades ago in MoCo, in one of my AP classes, Biology, there was a time during the year when the teacher started talking about the AP Test. He did not talk about it before. It was early spring, most grades were in. I'm sure the teacher had a sense of who was excelling. He talked with each of us, it seemed almost individually. He didn't pressure anyone to plan to take the test who wasn't enthusiastic. Those students who planned to take it, they were given extra assignments tailored to the test, intense prep. The class was intense as it was but for those students the intensity was considerably more, the last weeks before the test.
Anonymous
My DD took them and did well. She received 5s on all her tests, so we sent them into the college. She could also list her "AP w/ Honors" title under awards received in the common app. I think it helped strengthen her application. But, yes, I am sad that we had to spend so much time on it all. But, if everyone else is playing the game, you do as well.
Anonymous
The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is a money making scam for 90% of the kids.


You’re enriching people like Betsy Devos. Bigger McMansions for ETS and College Board Executives all around!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_Testing_Service

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Board

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Placement_exams

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



BS. Good Colleges give zero credit for AP’s and , taken senior year, the scores come out after admission decisions have been made.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



BS. Good Colleges give zero credit for AP’s and , taken senior year, the scores come out after admission decisions have been made.


Define “good college”. My son is at a top 25 LAC and we have friends at several other top 30 uni’s. All of them give some form of credit towards graduation or placement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



BS. Good Colleges give zero credit for AP’s and , taken senior year, the scores come out after admission decisions have been made.


Why why why do people take the time to write such moronic things? Is Stanford a good college?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My DD took them and did well. She received 5s on all her tests, so we sent them into the college. She could also list her "AP w/ Honors" title under awards received in the common app. I think it helped strengthen her application. But, yes, I am sad that we had to spend so much time on it all. But, if everyone else is playing the game, you do as well.


Great attitude
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



What private? The actual college prep privates around here do not have AP’s or inflated grades. Not even close to the way the public schools do. Most either got rid of the or are in the process of.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



BS. Good Colleges give zero credit for AP’s and , taken senior year, the scores come out after admission decisions have been made.


Why why why do people take the time to write such moronic things? Is Stanford a good college?


Why would students take APs senior year? Rookie move. SMH.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



What private? The actual college prep privates around here do not have AP’s or inflated grades. Not even close to the way the public schools do. Most either got rid of the or are in the process of.


are Sidwell Friends, GDS, NCS, and STa not considered college prep privates?
Anonymous
It is a check re: grade inflation. An AP score of 3 = college C, and the high school end of year grade should roughly correspond.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



BS. Good Colleges give zero credit for AP’s and , taken senior year, the scores come out after admission decisions have been made.


Why why why do people take the time to write such moronic things? Is Stanford a good college?


Why would students take APs senior year? Rookie move. SMH.


Because, again, colleges give credit. GenEd fulfillment, placing out of some 100-level courses, possibility of graduating a semester or two early. Are you still shaking your heard?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The exams are necessary in this age of grade inflation.

High grades at the private school where I teach, and at other private schools where I've worked, mean little. I would not have a job if I were not ridiculously "generous" with the As and Bs my students and their parents expect. My colleagues concur: we vent about this a lot.

I've taught my AP class for about 10 years, and the AP exam scores DO, in my subject at least, reflect actual ability/level of mastery.



BS. Good Colleges give zero credit for AP’s and , taken senior year, the scores come out after admission decisions have been made.


Why why why do people take the time to write such moronic things? Is Stanford a good college?


I of Chicago gives zero credit for AP tests.
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