Attn Maury parents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. But 20% was the figure in 2013, the last year that it's publicly available.

http://www.dc-aya.org/sites/default/files/content/Homeless%20Student%20Enrollment%20in%20DCPS.pdf

Nothing wrong with being homeless. We need to build communities of inclusion, not walls of division

This thread has really turned into some SJW silliness

You're not from the Maury community. Probably you should not comment here. Plenty of parents in the Maury community share the values of inclusiveness. I imagine that many of us would indeed be upset and worried about a cluster, but please leave the alt-right lingo out of this conversation.

OP I wish you hadn't posted this on DCUM. Ugliness all around. This survey has already been pushed out to Maury parents on other channels.

Telling people they shouldn't comment or post things doesn't seem very inclusive to me

Oh hi, false equivalency troll, you're here too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. But 20% was the figure in 2013, the last year that it's publicly available.

http://www.dc-aya.org/sites/default/files/content/Homeless%20Student%20Enrollment%20in%20DCPS.pdf

Nothing wrong with being homeless. We need to build communities of inclusion, not walls of division

This thread has really turned into some SJW silliness

You're not from the Maury community. Probably you should not comment here. Plenty of parents in the Maury community share the values of inclusiveness. I imagine that many of us would indeed be upset and worried about a cluster, but please leave the alt-right lingo out of this conversation.

OP I wish you hadn't posted this on DCUM. Ugliness all around. This survey has already been pushed out to Maury parents on other channels.

Telling people they shouldn't comment or post things doesn't seem very inclusive to me

Oh hi, false equivalency troll, you're here too?

False equivalency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. But 20% was the figure in 2013, the last year that it's publicly available.

http://www.dc-aya.org/sites/default/files/content/Homeless%20Student%20Enrollment%20in%20DCPS.pdf

Nothing wrong with being homeless. We need to build communities of inclusion, not walls of division

This thread has really turned into some SJW silliness

You're not from the Maury community. Probably you should not comment here. Plenty of parents in the Maury community share the values of inclusiveness. I imagine that many of us would indeed be upset and worried about a cluster, but please leave the alt-right lingo out of this conversation.

OP I wish you hadn't posted this on DCUM. Ugliness all around. This survey has already been pushed out to Maury parents on other channels.

Telling people they shouldn't comment or post things doesn't seem very inclusive to me

Oh hi, false equivalency troll, you're here too?

False equivalency?

Of course it's false equivalency. There is no equivalency between saying that the Maury community values inclusion (ie, children of all colors and economic status and background and ability in our neighborhood); and saying that this very sensitive, hyper-local discussion needs to be had on an anonymous message board populated by conservative trolls from all over in the name of "inclusion."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. But 20% was the figure in 2013, the last year that it's publicly available.

http://www.dc-aya.org/sites/default/files/content/Homeless%20Student%20Enrollment%20in%20DCPS.pdf

Nothing wrong with being homeless. We need to build communities of inclusion, not walls of division

This thread has really turned into some SJW silliness

You're not from the Maury community. Probably you should not comment here. Plenty of parents in the Maury community share the values of inclusiveness. I imagine that many of us would indeed be upset and worried about a cluster, but please leave the alt-right lingo out of this conversation.

OP I wish you hadn't posted this on DCUM. Ugliness all around. This survey has already been pushed out to Maury parents on other channels.

Telling people they shouldn't comment or post things doesn't seem very inclusive to me

Oh hi, false equivalency troll, you're here too?

False equivalency?

Of course it's false equivalency. There is no equivalency between saying that the Maury community values inclusion (ie, children of all colors and economic status and background and ability in our neighborhood); and saying that this very sensitive, hyper-local discussion needs to be had on an anonymous message board populated by conservative trolls from all over in the name of "inclusion."

I think inclusion would mean respecting that there are different political and social ideologies than your own. Although I agree this thread has lost its constructive value

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't panic, folks. The idea is obviously a non-starter, because almost the entire Maury community is going to fight it tooth and nail. It's a no brainer that droves of well-educated, connected and determined parents, including dozens of lawyers, are going to zealously sink it deeply logical reasons. DCPS and Allen were seriously bone-headed to float such a dead-ended concept. It will gain no more traction than the the lottery clusters concept Jennifer Niles floated in 2012. A year hence, nobody will be talking about the merger that wasn't.

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Well, clearly this is being floated as a way to bludgeon the Maury community into acccepting a crappy reno that takes away 1/2 of the open space as the alternative. So actually not that boneheaded.

DCPS can bludgeon away but Maury parents won't bite on the better reno. They know they're sunk in the upper grades if the cluster is formed. They get that school demographics are far more important than open space. No brainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. But 20% was the figure in 2013, the last year that it's publicly available.

http://www.dc-aya.org/sites/default/files/content/Homeless%20Student%20Enrollment%20in%20DCPS.pdf

Nothing wrong with being homeless. We need to build communities of inclusion, not walls of division

This thread has really turned into some SJW silliness

You're not from the Maury community. Probably you should not comment here. Plenty of parents in the Maury community share the values of inclusiveness. I imagine that many of us would indeed be upset and worried about a cluster, but please leave the alt-right lingo out of this conversation.

OP I wish you hadn't posted this on DCUM. Ugliness all around. This survey has already been pushed out to Maury parents on other channels.

Telling people they shouldn't comment or post things doesn't seem very inclusive to me

Oh hi, false equivalency troll, you're here too?

False equivalency?

Of course it's false equivalency. There is no equivalency between saying that the Maury community values inclusion (ie, children of all colors and economic status and background and ability in our neighborhood); and saying that this very sensitive, hyper-local discussion needs to be had on an anonymous message board populated by conservative trolls from all over in the name of "inclusion."

I think inclusion would mean respecting that there are different political and social ideologies than your own. Although I agree this thread has lost its constructive value

Of course, but that has zero to do with the very bad judgment behind posting this to DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Maury parent here. Please do not fill out this survey if you are not currently zoned for Miner or Maury. DCPS discussed the cluster model with us at a community meeting a couple of weeks ago attended by hundreds of people. If you get your news from this forum and PoPVille then you don't have enough information to weigh in on our families' immediate future. DCPS put itself in a bind at Maury by expanding the boundaries of an already crowded school, and things were made worse by the Mayor's haphazard method of awarding capital improvement funds. The options realistically on the table all involve construction, and parents are currently faced with a series of imperfect choices. Filling the survey with noise based on your ideological views about student demographics and citing population statistics from 2013 would be extremely counterproductive.

[Anonymous]

Please don't tell us what we should do, or how best to be productive. We live on the Hill, too, where we like to defend our contrarian bona fides. We can base our logic on our ideological views or any other dogma we follow. We fill out what we like, as we choose, thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please don't tell us what we should do, or how best to be productive. We live on the Hill, too, where we like to defend our contrarian bona fides. We can base our logic on our ideological views or any other dogma we follow. We fill out what we like, as we choose, thanks.

Are you zoned for Maury or Miner? Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please don't tell us what we should do, or how best to be productive. We live on the Hill, too, where we like to defend our contrarian bona fides. We can base our logic on our ideological views or any other dogma we follow. We fill out what we like, as we choose, thanks.

+100.

What if we fill it out not because of "idealogical" choices but because different options have different costs? Folks in the Miner/Maury/Brent/LT, etc. catchments don't seem reluctant to weigh in on the Cluster's advocacy for renovations/moving grades, etc. that have taken place over the last several years, also without knowing the exact information being conveyed by DCPS to our community about critical issues. How is this different?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maury parent here. Please do not fill out this survey if you are not currently zoned for Miner or Maury. DCPS discussed the cluster model with us at a community meeting a couple of weeks ago attended by hundreds of people. If you get your news from this forum and PoPVille then you don't have enough information to weigh in on our families' immediate future. DCPS put itself in a bind at Maury by expanding the boundaries of an already crowded school, and things were made worse by the Mayor's haphazard method of awarding capital improvement funds. The options realistically on the table all involve construction, and parents are currently faced with a series of imperfect choices. Filling the survey with noise based on your ideological views about student demographics and citing population statistics from 2013 would be extremely counterproductive.

Anyone can fill out the survey. Also just because all this people went to the meeting doesn't mean they all think the same or have same opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don't tell us what we should do, or how best to be productive. We live on the Hill, too, where we like to defend our contrarian bona fides. We can base our logic on our ideological views or any other dogma we follow. We fill out what we like, as we choose, thanks.

+100.

What if we fill it out not because of "idealogical" choices but because different options have different costs? Folks in the Miner/Maury/Brent/LT, etc. catchments don't seem reluctant to weigh in on the Cluster's advocacy for renovations/moving grades, etc. that have taken place over the last several years, also without knowing the exact information being conveyed by DCPS to our community about critical issues. How is this different?

I don't think it is different, and I'd say the same to them. My point was that this survey, specifically, was intended as a follow up to those renovation discussions and not as a broader question to the community about the wisdom of a cluster model. If you've read through all the material on the School Improvement Team website and you have some salient point to make then go ahead. My concern was that it's hard enough to get DCPS to seriously consider community input - if they started getting hundreds of additional responses to this thing I have no faith they would look at the responses at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don't tell us what we should do, or how best to be productive. We live on the Hill, too, where we like to defend our contrarian bona fides. We can base our logic on our ideological views or any other dogma we follow. We fill out what we like, as we choose, thanks.

+100.

What if we fill it out not because of "idealogical" choices but because different options have different costs? Folks in the Miner/Maury/Brent/LT, etc. catchments don't seem reluctant to weigh in on the Cluster's advocacy for renovations/moving grades, etc. that have taken place over the last several years, also without knowing the exact information being conveyed by DCPS to our community about critical issues. How is this different?

Pretty sure the original commenter here was being sarcastic. S/he was making fun of Hill residents: "We live on the Hill, too, where we like to defend our contrarian bona fides."

[Anonymous]

I think by the very title : " Subject: Re:Attn Maury parents", the OP only wanted to hear us all take her side. S/he may be dismayed to find we all aren't on her side.

[Anonymous]

If any of you think your survey responses are going to influence DCPS, you're sadly mistaken. It's window dressing to make you feel as if you have input.