Stats about white students in DCPS being in top nationwide?

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

And as a point of minor pedantry, World Bank staff aren't immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

Lol. Well, now I know why the world Bank is such a cluster of incompetence. You're what, second generation from some caste-driven country?

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

Lol. Well, now I know why the world Bank is such a cluster of incompetence. You're what, second generation from some caste-driven country?

You say this like it means anything.

All countries are caste-driven, some are just more explicit about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

And as a point of minor pedantry, World Bank staff aren't immigrants. [/quote

No, but anyone who is that insecure about poverty has some class insecurity in their own past.]

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

Lol. Well, now I know why the world Bank is such a cluster of incompetence. You're what, second generation from some caste-driven country?

You say this like it means anything.

All countries are caste-driven, some are just more explicit about it.

The more reasonable countries realize that fortunes rise and fall, and that a child's worth is not defined by their parents pedantic degree. And then there's you, cowering in some kind of "class" system that is important to you. So, so important. I find it pitiable.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

Lol. Well, now I know why the world Bank is such a cluster of incompetence. You're what, second generation from some caste-driven country?

You say this like it means anything.

All countries are caste-driven, some are just more explicit about it.

The more reasonable countries realize that fortunes rise and fall, and that a child's worth is not defined by their parents pedantic degree. And then there's you, cowering in some kind of "class" system that is important to you. So, so important. I find it pitiable.

Add in what the role of your actual job is to that? Lending funds, not your own, at inflated rates against the current fed and labor.... and your entire life is even more of a glass house than it would be if you just worked for Goldman.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

Lol. Well, now I know why the world Bank is such a cluster of incompetence. You're what, second generation from some caste-driven country?

You say this like it means anything.

All countries are caste-driven, some are just more explicit about it.

The more reasonable countries realize that fortunes rise and fall, and that a child's worth is not defined by their parents pedantic degree. And then there's you, cowering in some kind of "class" system that is important to you. So, so important. I find it pitiable.

What's pitiable is people like you posting lamentations of "locked out of my first choice charter! desirable school waitlist not moving! unfair!" with one hand, and moronic denials of class societies with the other. The entire DC lottery system is based on accommodating people's desire to educate their children away from the ill effects of multigenerational poverty. Own it, instead of pitying people who have the nerve to articulate it.

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I own sending my kids to an economically diverse school, where my contributions make a difference. I also own not being a pathetic parasite working for the world Bank, an organization predicated on the idea that it can "end" poverty, while being afraid of poor people.

And I am so glad your poison is not something my children have to deal with

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Anonymous wrote:I own sending my kids to an economically diverse school, where my contributions make a difference. I also own not being a pathetic parasite working for the world Bank, an organization predicated on the idea that it can "end" poverty, while being afraid of poor people.

And I am so glad your poison is not something my children have to deal with

so your kids are going to deal and wilson, right?

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To come to pp defense, it can be hard for kids and families from very different SES to establish friendships outside of school. Playdates and Birthday parties become difficult to arrange if you can't speak the same language. How do I know this? Because my DC attended a very nice school where most of the parents were Hispanic? Everybody was nice but I didn't make friends and neither did my DC. Just something to consider

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Anonymous wrote:I own sending my kids to an economically diverse school, where my contributions make a difference. I also own not being a pathetic parasite working for the world Bank, an organization predicated on the idea that it can "end" poverty, while being afraid of poor people.

And I am so glad your poison is not something my children have to deal with

so your kids are going to deal and wilson, right?

No. They are not.

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Anonymous wrote:To come to pp defense, it can be hard for kids and families from very different SES to establish friendships outside of school. Playdates and Birthday parties become difficult to arrange if you can't speak the same language. How do I know this? Because my DC attended a very nice school where most of the parents were Hispanic? Everybody was nice but I didn't make friends and neither did my DC. Just something to consider

Sure, although presumably someone "sophisticated" enough to work for the World Bank would speak Spanish.

One of my daughter's best friends has parents who don't speak a ton of English--yeah, I don't hang out with them... but it's not about me. They get along. And value education just as much as we do.

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Anonymous wrote:I own sending my kids to an economically diverse school, where my contributions make a difference. I also own not being a pathetic parasite working for the world Bank, an organization predicated on the idea that it can "end" poverty, while being afraid of poor people.

And I am so glad your poison is not something my children have to deal with

I'm new to this thread, and I'm sure I'll regret my presence shortly.

The poster commenting left and right about the World Bank's incompetence seems misguided, at best. The WBG is far from perfect, but it has achieved far more in terms of poverty alleviation that just about every other organization. Given that it and the rest of the UN are basically organizations designed to ameliorate rich country guilt without actually having the donors get their hands dirty directly, that's a remarkable achievement. The posters blanket generalizations, spoken as if from a point of authority are silly, again at best.

More to this point, the poster comments that a large multinational organization is "afraid of poor people." This comments is, presumably, made on the basis of an anonymous commenter saying he/she didn't want their child attempting to make friends based on manufactured proximity. I shutter to think of the poster's critical thinking skills given that he/she is so willing to malign a 8,000 person organization on the basis of one anonymous commenter. Comical, at best.

No, I do not and have never worked for the World Bank. I work for the federal government.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though it may be diversity in terms of ethnic background/birthplace, I'm not sure schools full of diplomats' and WB executives' kids is really more meaningfully "diverse" than many DC DCPS/HRCS especially at the ES level. That is, I think socioeconomic diversity sometimes matters a whole lot more...

Completely agree. World Bank culture is surprisingly homogenous. Many different languages, skin colors, birth places, but all middle/upper middle class childhoods with 2+ degrees from good universities. And many studied at the same universities in the US, UK and EU. SES diversity is much more noticeable than ethnic diversity after you've known someone for more than a day.

You need to have a degree in higher education to work at the world bank, IADB, IMF, etc.

And as someone who actually works at one of these places, I can tell you it's quite diverse.

It's 100% fair to say it's a different kind of diversity though. I'm a U.S. career FSO and would never deny that foreign diplomats posted to DC long term (as most countries do, especially poorer ones) are actually more "like me" than many of my NE neighbors. Theirs kids are even more like my kids, Since many of them have been 100% raised here.

I work for the WB, and this is 100% correct, and this is the only kind of diversity I want for my children. I don't really want them to have Section 8 friends.

Why not? Do you really worry about your children meeting poor children? Wow. Are you a recent immigrant to this country?

I don't worry about it, I just prefer that they are friends with children like them from families who value the same things that we can relate to. There is limited time and mental space for friendships, so I would rather they were friends with children of, say, other World Bankers (no matter what country they are from). They have nothing in common with Section 8 people so let's not engineer proximity where none exists.

Lol. Well, now I know why the world Bank is such a cluster of incompetence. You're what, second generation from some caste-driven country?

You say this like it means anything.

All countries are caste-driven, some are just more explicit about it.

The more reasonable countries realize that fortunes rise and fall, and that a child's worth is not defined by their parents pedantic degree. And then there's you, cowering in some kind of "class" system that is important to you. So, so important. I find it pitiable.

What's pitiable is people like you posting lamentations of "locked out of my first choice charter! desirable school waitlist not moving! unfair!" with one hand, and moronic denials of class societies with the other. The entire DC lottery system is based on accommodating people's desire to educate their children away from the ill effects of multigenerational poverty. Own it, instead of pitying people who have the nerve to articulate it.

I'm an American sending my kids to a DCPS school and I agree with this poster. It's convenient to blame everyone else but yourself, but it's fallacious. Don't pretend to be holier than thou simply because you don't like your reflection in the mirror. Grow up, instead. Own it, as the poster said, instead.