BASIS DC shut down/abolished the school list serve

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All I know is every parent I have talked to so far this year which is quite a few are happy with BASIS. They feel it is even better this year.

As for the naysayer frantically worrying about not filling all spots, do you really think BASIS schools have not dealt with any hiccups at all in well over decade of operation?? I am not concerned since so far BASIS is delivering in their promise of an array of challenging courses and AP courses.
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.
Why do you say that?

Please review pages 1-9 on this thread. Thank you.

What did you learn in between the time you put your child on the wait list and pages 1 through 9 of this thread?


That we weren't the only ones to not take a spot.
That older kids left the school too.
That the head of school has issues (though I suspected this on our tour).
That giving up $250k caught a lot of families off guard.
That we made the right decision.
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.
Why do you say that?

Please review pages 1-9 on this thread. Thank you.

What did you learn in between the time you put your child on the wait list and pages 1 through 9 of this thread?


That we weren't the only ones to not take a spot.
That older kids left the school too.
That the head of school has issues (though I suspected this on our tour).
That giving up $250k caught a lot of families off guard.
That we made the right decision.


I am glad you feel good about your decision and I'm glad that people have choices, including BASIS which is a good fit for many kids.
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.
Why do you say that?

Please review pages 1-9 on this thread. Thank you.

What did you learn in between the time you put your child on the wait list and pages 1 through 9 of this thread?


That we weren't the only ones to not take a spot.
That older kids left the school too.
That the head of school has issues (though I suspected this on our tour).
That giving up $250k caught a lot of families off guard.
That we made the right decision.


I am glad you feel good about your decision and I'm glad that people have choices, including BASIS which is a good fit for many kids.


Totally feel great, thank you. Dodging a bullet is an amazing feeling.
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Anonymous wrote:There were 4 "if you left BASIS" threads, and a whole bunch of "join my facebook listserv," "I can't believe 25 6th grader spots are gone and no one told us until it was too late" "chemistry candy gate" and "I am a Luddite" emails. [/b]She wrote a bunch of them, but unlikely all of them, but I say everyone drop it. The various points have been beaten to death, and this has gotten silly and ridiculous and it is time to move on.


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have an issue with the 25 spots and intend to try to bring it up at the next coffee hour. I want to know why it happened, and how HOS intends to prevent it from happening in this year's lottery. Bottom line is this is about money, people. We do not get money for empty spots. We can hardly ask to expand if we cannot fill our school. I also agree that we all have neighborhood list serves we could have posted the openings on had we been told earlier. So:

Are you all going to boo me down or throw popcorn at me? I agree that it is time to move on here, but I think you people ought to be ashamed of how far this went and in what direction. It is not like she is a deranged dangerous person who has done permanent damage to the school. Unless you are gullible enough to blame her for shutting down the list serve when they "had been thinking about it for some time" - read ante FB Luddite Candygate which were all in the same friggin 3 emails.


[/b]There were more than 3 emails-a quick word search will tell you that-please drop it-also, [b]the 25 slots WAS settled well before it was dropped-o. The Basis listserv, Jeff Jacobs listed something like[/b] 6 different dates where Basis parents received written notice about the 25 available spots, many of those dates in plenty of time for parents to do something about them. This has been mentioned to you or the other woman more than twice, yet you keep bringing it up, or making new threads asking why people left, whether people were leaving after 8th etc. Instead of lamenting the past which is now lost, lets do something about the future, and stop repelling people and doing more harm with this noise and excessive repetitive emails, ok?


Since you are debating things that can be resolved by documentary evidence, I will do some searching of my own now that you have provoked me, and we can continue to fight about it. Is that what you want? You cannot make these assertions and then tell everyone to drop it. A simple word search may reveal that people responded to those emails and they were repeated that way. A simple word search will not reveal that everyone's poor inboxes were "flooded" by her "crazy emails." On DCUM, unlike the list serve, no one is entitled to the last word, especially when their words are full of specious statements. So you pick a fight and you are also still missing the point. [b]Settled how? By telling us we left 25 seats open in the 6th grade? [b] That was in the final newsletter on the issue. The one on September 12th said "we have identified a few open spots in the 6th grade." Arguing about whether "a few = 25" is pointless now, but making that argument is patently absurd. Why get on a high horse when the evidence is there for all to see? I have no idea who Jeff Jacobs is but I bet dollars to donuts the 6 dates he listed were dates when we got notice there were spaces, not how many. Dead horse, thoroughly beaten, he is wrong if that was his assertion, whoever he is. If you really care, go look it up yourself instead of relying on someone I have never heard of to list dates for you, unless he quoted the statements in the actual documents. Did he? Of course not. Because no such statements were made 6 times and you did not read the original statements and then relied on someone else's very easily refuted assertion. And responsible parents like me did all they could upon hearing that there were ANY spaces, which means this kind of error has no quick fix in the fall whether it is "a few" or "25," once children are enrolled elsewhere. More importantly
Admitting that we have 25 open seats in 6th settles nothing, but gives rise to a very simple question: how did it happen and what are we going to do to prevent it from happening this year? And that question has not been answered yet by anyone in the administration. We had a waiting list for 6th, over 40 kids at one point. Somewhere after the lottery the waiting list was not managed correctly or 25 students who were on it would presently be in our 6th grade. That is what they budgeted for, that is how they allocated the teachers, which is probably why they could not just add on another section of 5th graders at the beginning of the year, which would have I think filled up quickly. But these are all questions that logically flow from his statement. And though the issue was brought up at the last coffee hour, it was brought up by your "crazy lady" as part of her "I am concerned about our school" speech which mostly had to do with treating students with the respect that they deserve, so that they will come, so that they will stay, so that they will not leave (citing the candy incident). You may not remember, but she stood up twice. She also separately brought up the issue of the difficulty some students and parents had gaining access to comps they needed to retake over the summer and the possibility of having a summer school along with the STARS and ANTERES programs, which Mr. Aiken said they were already seriously considering. So your "whacking job" is raising issues on behalf of students who had problems over the summer, and proposing things the admin is already thinking about that I bet were not on YOUR radar screen or in your pretty little empty head. I would think carefully before you continue with your defamatory descriptions of her overall behavior or psychological state. As another parent said, enough is enough with just going on and on about how crazy she is. I see no evidence of her craziness in her behavior at the coffee hour or in her emails. No one forced you fools to read them after all. And obviously you didn't, the same way you didn't read the 6 notices which did not say 25 spots 6 times. I didn't get a whiff of crazy in them. I did, in the last one, get a strong sense of outrage about the way the students in 8La were treated by the Dean, and why the HOS and Dean had not gone in to apologize for [b]his crazy behavior. And again, when those two finally made an appearance in 8La, all they did was tell the kids their grades were not in danger. [/b]No apology for the Dean screaming "you mess with her stuff, I'll mess with your grades" where his carrying ons made them late to their subsequent class and made them worried for the grades until the person who made the threat actually came into the class and the HOS retracted it. No explanation that this would never happen at Basis.[b] Maybe she was onto something both at the coffee hour and the craziness in 8La? Maybe if you read her emails they were not mostly about her FB page, being a Luddite (I assume that means not computer savvy). All of you should shut up now and if the adults here want to discuss the shutting down of the list serve or anything else since we no longer have a list serve, let them. But stop embarrassing yourselves by trying to humiliate this lady. All you are doing is disgracing our school. At least she had the decency to keep it on the list serve and not on DCUM. So far I do not see you doing Basis the same courtesy. And I feel an obligation now to go back, find Jacobs, check the statements, check the emails etc. Because of your patently false assertions. What a fucking waste of time. But since this concerns someone about whom I care, I will fucking do it. If you really wanted this dropped like the others who genuinely want this dropped you just would have just said "drop it." Not the add ons about being sent 6 notices of 25 spaces or that there were more than three emails. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Guess what, not on DCUM. So "drop it" with the unjustified little speech you saw fit to make by no means means drop it, 3rd crazy lady (at least )
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Anonymous wrote:BASIS is doing fine. They need a real board rather than hand-picked people who Michael and Olga liked and who can play with Craig B.


sorry but who is Craig B?
I thought the line of authority went to Sean Aiken and then Caroline McGarvey (and can never go to Michael Block because he is on the Board of the for profit company), while his wife Olga stayed on the non profit side. Pretty cosy, but still.


Craig Barrett, former Intel CEO, picked up BASIS (and privatization of public schools in general) as a pet project a while back. But make no mistake, BASIS is and always has been Olga Block. Michael (economics professor) is a nice guy but never wore the pants in that relationship and certainly not when it comes to BASIS. Carolyn is Olga's right hand man - no background in education but a powerful (although quite aggressive) personality and fiercely loyal. Sean, like all the other HOS's, was picked out of the teaching ranks (to detriment of teaching ranks) as a nice guy, capable, ambitious but willing to tow the party line and desirous of more than the minimum wage teacher salary. He has absolutely no power to innovate, only to implement the system. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd be interested in hearing it. As far as I can see, at BASIS, from admin to teachers to parents, you either believe in Olga's system, or you don't.


Well if you were at the meeting at the end of the year where Sean Aiken said if there was one statement he could take back as HOS, it was stating in the first meeting that DC is just like Arizona. DC is different. We are their only inner city school, we are their only majority AA school, we are their only school that has 40% FARMS, and we are the only school where they have been told quite clearly by OCR and the Charter Board that they MUST deal with kids with IEPs or 504s appropriately or they will be fined constantly, requests to expand will be denied, and worst case scenario, their charter would be revoked. They got the message. And they have changed to meet the needs of the kids who can succeed at Basis despite their disabilities. If you look at the populations of the schools in AZ, you will quickly realize how different we are. There are NO kids with IEPs or 504s at the flagship schools in AZ. Those schools are full of affluent or middle class children that do not at all reflect the geographic area they are in (for example, one of those cities is 40% Latino, and they have about 15%). Sean Aiken spent a year here as HOS experiencing every single aspect of the DC difference, and he was HOS in Oro Valley before he came here, and he started out as a teacher at Basis. The last thing Olga wants is to fail here, so I believe that she and Caroline are listening to Sean about the "DC difference." Olga's way or the high way does not work here, and Sean Aiken knows it, and he has enough credibility with both these people so that they listen to him on critical issues.




I'm going to have to do this, I owe it to myself: I TOLD YOU SO!


I personally told you so, a couple years ago, before you opened, and you were all boostery up-in-arms about how wrong and negative I was, and Basis is the best, and "just look at Arizona!" despite me telling you - repeatedly - how irrelevant Arizona is to your situation. Your students are not the children of PhDs teaching at the UofA in Tucson. Now you know. I. told. you. so.

Now, carry on with your wailing and rending of garments, it's entertaining and your tears are delicious.



hey private school parent (who comes here to reassure herself that she is not missing out),
in our 2nd year we had the highest DC CAS scores except for Deal, and we barely did any test prep
Proving that educated white wealthy parents do not do the only trick in town..........
And that whatever the differences are between here and AZ, we just beat Washington Latin again in the Certamen competition and will go on to compete at Yale (our other 7th grade team won 2nd place but you only get to send one team from each school, sadly........
We beat Washington Latin on the DC CAS last year (our first year, they were second and we were third)
And yes it is a somewhat rough and tumble environment, but that is a learning experience for all involved

Signed,
parents who have a PhD and a JD between them, both Ivy League undergraduates
who are absolutely positive our kids will get into better colleges and universities than the idiot poster who does not know that you "rent" garments, the 'renting' of garments, not the "rending."
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.
Why do you say that?

Please review pages 1-9 on this thread. Thank you.

What did you learn in between the time you put your child on the wait list and pages 1 through 9 of this thread?


That we weren't the only ones to not take a spot.
That older kids left the school too.
That the head of school has issues (though I suspected this on our tour).
That giving up $250k caught a lot of families off guard.
That we made the right decision.


I am glad you feel good about your decision and I'm glad that people have choices, including BASIS which is a good fit for many kids.


Totally feel great, thank you. Dodging a bullet is an amazing feeling.


Again, if you're going by what's been posted here on DCUM, it's probably no better than making a decision based on a Yelp posting with an angry review about not finding tacos on the menu at a Tapas bar, not understanding it's Spanish, not Mexican - and that tacos aren't a Spanish thing.

But, to each his own. Aside from the two or three people here, there are hundreds of happy and satisfied BASIS DC families.
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.


Could you please tell us, since the administration has not seen fit to offer any explanation, what number (around 100?) you were on the wait list for 6th grade? And when you got the call from Basis, and why you turned it down -

pages 1-9 on this thread did not exist at that point, so be honest please. Where were you when you got the call?

And the HOS who had issues, was he the HOS this year? Don't want his name to delete my post, but a very young, enthusiastic, ill informed, man who speaks in corporate non-speak (can you believe he purportedly taught English at one point?). Had he been the HOS the first year, we would not have come, so totally get you on that one. Hopefully he will have a shorter tenure than the two previous HOS's.
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Anonymous wrote:Also, since there were at one point, long ago, possibly 25 open slots, along with a flurry of people reaching out to friends and family about coming to Basis... but since then, when asked about their numbers, school officials don't seem worried or concerned.

Not seeming concerned is, of course, obviously a sign of the imminent and utter destruction of the school. I mean, literally, figuratively, metaphysically, and in every other possible meaning. They are a gazillion billion trillion dollars in debt, and there is, at this very moment, a chunk of hurtling ice comet flying straight at the school from the Oort cloud in deep space.

Look, the long and short of it is that aside from maybe 2 or 3 people who keep repeating the same stuff here over and over again, the rest of us are perfectly fine. The world is not coming to an end. Basis is not coming to an end. Their 6th grade cohort is not coming to an end. The bag of candy maybe came to an end but nothing else is. Now, if only these constant posts over nothing could come to an end.


What do you think these people are supposed to say? We realize we just lost $250k because of a major screw up by the HOS? As someone pointed out, that ultimately translates into a cool million.

No. They are not concerned. What is their alternative spiel?

But PLEASE give everyone money for the teacher retention fund, because we now have so many fewer students who might be stupid enough to hand over their money when they have no idea how it is spent....
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.
Why do you say that?

Please review pages 1-9 on this thread. Thank you.

What did you learn in between the time you put your child on the wait list and pages 1 through 9 of this thread?


That we weren't the only ones to not take a spot.
That older kids left the school too.
That the head of school has issues (though I suspected this on our tour).
That giving up $250k caught a lot of families off guard.
That we made the right decision.


I am glad you feel good about your decision and I'm glad that people have choices, including BASIS which is a good fit for many kids.


Totally feel great, thank you. Dodging a bullet is an amazing feeling.


Again, if you're going by what's been posted here on DCUM, it's probably no better than making a decision based on a Yelp posting with an angry review about not finding tacos on the menu at a Tapas bar, not understanding it's Spanish, not Mexican - and that tacos aren't a Spanish thing.

But, to each his own. Aside from the two or three people here, there are hundreds of happy and satisfied BASIS DC families.


I am pretty surprised that you contine to post. After saying it is so great people have a choice you continue to put down their choice.

Really, it is great that you are at BASIS and great we aren't. We dodged a massive bullet. You and the previous crazy posters just reaffirm our decision for our child. Perhaps sending your child to BASIS everyday reaffirms yours. Unclench BASIS parent. There is no parent in their right mind who wouldn't be a bit put off by this thread. I only followed because I did wonder. Now I don't. Not at all.
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It's not "a million" nor etched into stone. They can add students, they can make it up next year, et cetera, et cetera.

And, just to point out....

They know what their numbers are, they know what their financials are, they know what their model is. They've been doing this for 20 years, they've successfully started and run at least a half dozen schools, I believe that's far more than anyone here on this thread ever has or ever will, I tend to think they know a thing or two more about how all of this works than any of us here does. This is what they do. And accordingly, if they aren't concerned, then neither am I.

But of course, if anyone here is so brilliant and has such deeper insights into how schools can and should be run, then I wonder why that person isn't out there starting and running an even better school than BASIS. Submit a charter document to the PCSB.
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent who received a call about one of those 6th grade spots (at nearly 100 on wait list) and turned it down, four words: totally dodged a bullet.
Why do you say that?

Please review pages 1-9 on this thread. Thank you.

What did you learn in between the time you put your child on the wait list and pages 1 through 9 of this thread?


That we weren't the only ones to not take a spot.
That older kids left the school too.
That the head of school has issues (though I suspected this on our tour).
That giving up $250k caught a lot of families off guard.
That we made the right decision.


I am glad you feel good about your decision and I'm glad that people have choices, including BASIS which is a good fit for many kids.


Totally feel great, thank you. Dodging a bullet is an amazing feeling.


Again, if you're going by what's been posted here on DCUM, it's probably no better than making a decision based on a Yelp posting with an angry review about not finding tacos on the menu at a Tapas bar, not understanding it's Spanish, not Mexican - and that tacos aren't a Spanish thing.

But, to each his own. Aside from the two or three people here, there are hundreds of happy and satisfied BASIS DC families.


I am pretty surprised that you contine to post. After saying it is so great people have a choice you continue to put down their choice.

Really, it is great that you are at BASIS and great we aren't. We dodged a massive bullet. You and the previous crazy posters just reaffirm our decision for our child. Perhaps sending your child to BASIS everyday reaffirms yours. Unclench BASIS parent. There is no parent in their right mind who wouldn't be a bit put off by this thread. I only followed because I did wonder. Now I don't. Not at all.


Nope, nothing "clenched" and no need to "reaffirm" anything - as a matter of fact, we have been with BASIS going on our third year now. We've had our opportunities to look at other schools, but we continue to choose BASIS, and we have no regrets. You say you are "put off" - by me? I only said, don't be "put off" by the two or three rabid posters here when the remaining hundreds of families are content. I'm merely putting it in proper perspective - and that's certainly not something that should be "off-putting" whether in one's right or wrong mind.
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This thread? Condense it all down, and it's really just the same 2 or 3 ranters, repeating the same 2 or 3 things over and over again - they could have gotten a few more 6th graders, a hothead remark around a bag of candy, yadda yadda. Big whoop. Most other public schools and charters in DC would LOVE to have their problems be as trivial as that.

Consider that DCUM is an echo chamber. It's not really reflective of the real world. Out here in the real world, there are hundreds of committed and content BASIS families, hundreds of calm, rational parents, and hundreds of happy kids - which for me, offsets this tempest-in-a-teapot just fine, but for anyone else, if DCUM is all you know and rely on, then you've done yourself a disservice.
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NP here, and not a Basis parent so I'm not invested in your outcome here. You people ignore the frustrated parent above at your own peril. The UPSFF (per-pupil funding formula) indicates that your school lost out on about a quarter of a million dollars by not filling those 25 seats. And that's just THIS YEAR. You can't back-fill them, so now your loss is compounded to $250K per year for that class all the way through HS. Wow - somebody should be fired for that kind of fiscal malpractice. DCI just opened, doesn't have their permanent facility, and is already eating your lunch. You need to get on the ball and address your problems, quickly. Shutting down and/or berating the one person who is actually trying to force the school and its sycophants to face the music will be your downfall.



This. You said it all, you said it well, and you revealed the depths of their idiocy in economic terms. BOOSTERS doing a good imitation of Ostriches are about my least favorite parents....... second only to those on the BOOSTERS Board
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