Beyonce's sister Solange assaults Jay-Z

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Anonymous wrote:So where is the outrage for the video clip someone posted of Jay-Z smacking a woman in the head, hard? The look on his face while he's doing it? Violent tendencies no doubt.

That is old, old, OLD .... from a video/doc that was done. Showing that clip to suggest that is how Jay-Z is now is like showing a Dr. Dre clip where he pours the beer on the girl in the house party and suggesting that is how he treats his wife.

He. smacked. a. person. in. public. There is no time stamp on anger issues, tell me how he underwent some counseling/anger management. You really think this guy is all fixed?

PP, my response is long. So excuse it or skip over it.

First of all, she didn't get SMACKED. She got MUSHED. There is a difference. Both are wrong -- but it is a difference. In this video, he was filming a behind the scenes documentary, and a girl backstage took his picture without permission. He takes her camera, and mushes her in the face, walks away. HORRIBLE. Agreed. Disrespectful, yes. A smack? No. Violent tendencies? ABSOLUTELY! Still present? Debatable.

Second, context matters. Do you know his history as a person or entertainer? Or are you a "new" fan, familiar only with his crossover pop music in recent years? I ask because the clip you are referencing, while horrifying to see, is not the same Jay-Z of today. If you look, he is rolling with MEMPHIS BLEEK in his crew. And Beanie Sigel. Do you know who they are? They are TROUBLE. Part of the reason that he is so popular with a very large fan base, is because of long standing fans that have followed him since The Dynasty album, where he was a VERY different person leaving from the Marcy Projects, that came up through rapping. He talks about how it literally saved his life. This is not a secret to anyone. So to see this kind of behavior, while sad is not a surprise.

Which brings me to my third point. I think that is the reason for no outrage is that he is not the same person anymore -- and anyone who knows his history, and followed ALL of his story, would reasonably make that assumption on one level or another. Do you think he would be welcomed into the political circles that he is welcomed into in the sports industry and others if he were still a gangster rapper on the streets mushing women?

No one is excusing the past behavior - but why run something through the wringer again? His history is not a secret. He has been on record for discussing and explaining behaviors that went hand-in-hand with that video, and it is in the past.He used to sell drugs, he once shot his brother - he raps about his life things bad, and things good - you can do your own research and look into his past, he doesn't hide it. He also has shared interviews with a bunch of others on his regrets, lessons learned, and the process of maturity as a near 40 year old man now. He talked about not having a father and how hard it was to learn to forgive him, how Beyonce helped him with that. M People can try, but no matter how many assumptions, snippets, and feelings, we only ever know parts of information about anyone - celebrity or not. Not with Solange, not with Jay-Z, not with Beyonce, not with a stranger on the corner that doesn't think you need to stop for a funeral procession.

You asked, where is the outrage of this video. I think you missed it when it happened, 16 years ago, when he was a young foolish idiot known for a certain party style, gangster mentality, and other reprehensible qualities that he (at least on the surface) no longer demonstrates. Clearly he has since learned to better handle the bold assertiveness of fans and the paparazzi. And crazy siblings.

Last, I will reiterate that I am not excusing the behavior. I am trying to offer context. This is OLD. And when people change, there is a time stamp on it. There are many, many examples of bad boy gone good, or vice versa, in the entertainment industry. To suggest that he should still be persecuted for his behaviors in his youth is petty in light of what happened. If nothing else, the fact that he didn't hit Solange back or show any anger while being viciously attacked shows more maturity than some people would even show today without his history.

Thanks PP. This was really interesting to read.

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Apparently these outbursts have happened in the past. Maybe time for some meds? http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/beyonce-sister-solange-removes-pics-pop-star-article-1.1790332

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Solange apparently took all of her pictures with beyonce off of Instagram. Something weird is going on

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I suspect Solange is not well -- mentally -- and Beyonce and Jay-Z are used to this. Unfortunately, they were caught on tape but there may have been prior episodes like this. I am not a big Jay-Z or Beyonce fan but I often wondered why Solange dresses in those weird close and hairstyles. And, you rarely see the sisters together. Of course, Solange has not enjoyed a successful career like her older sister. She seems to be on the fringes of success. It could be because she is unstable. I don't think there is more going on other than what we are seeing -- that Beyonce and Jay-Z are used to these theatrics by Solange and she probably needs some professional help.

I grew up with a family member with behavioral and anger management issues, and I agree with this explanation - it's the only thing that makes sense to me.

Same here. The arguments that Solange is somehow defending Beyonce are BS - as if Solange going off on Jay Z would have any influence on his behavior at all. In private, my father would go into violent rages similar to what Solange's but in public he was Mr. Charming. I have no idea what's going on between JayZ and Beyonce (and don't care) but Solange has significant mental health issues. She should be arrested for assault.

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Nothing, no matter how serious, ever excuses that behavior unless you are off your rocker. The fact that Beyonce was so calm is further indication to me that it was an overreaction. I think if Beyonce wanted to get crazy she could - she sings enough from the perspective of an emotional woman.

No reasonable, mentally stable woman I know would react this way to anything other than maybe having a close family member killed. This was clearly an unhinged person exhibiting an episode of violence; the others were calm because 1) they know her mental health history and 2) the bodyguard was there to handle it.

Yes. Occam's Razor. Simple and most likely to be correct.

[Anonymous]

More details...although it is the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2627682/Jay-Z-goes-jewelry-shopping-Solange-Knowles-luxury-Manhattan-store-day-seen-viciously-attacking-video.html

One thing I have seen 'confirmed' is that Solange got into a verbal yelling match with another woman earlier that evening.

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And two days after the fight, Solange and Jay-Z were out shopping for jewelry together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And two days after the fight, Solange and Jay-Z were out shopping for jewelry together.

A PR damage control move that both of them surely suffered through.

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What I would like to know, is how much the person who sold this tape got paid by TMZ??

Because if this person gets caught..They will not just lose their jobs, they can get sued. By the hotel, and JayZ, Beyonce and Solange.

I bet TMZ paid a pretty penny for that tape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I would like to know, is how much the person who sold this tape got paid by TMZ??

Because if this person gets caught..They will not just lose their jobs, they can get sued. By the hotel, and JayZ, Beyonce and Solange.

I bet TMZ paid a pretty penny for that tape.

Maybe the lesson here is to take the stairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And two days after the fight, Solange and Jay-Z were out shopping for jewelry together.

buying her off?

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Anonymous wrote:And two days after the fight, Solange and Jay-Z were out shopping for jewelry together.

buying her off?

Beyonce ain't poor...she could be buying him off.

[Anonymous]

There have been rumors for years that Rihanna and Jay-Z slept together, or are sleeping together. Maybe that's why Solange went off -- she didn't want Jay going to a party hosted by the woman he is supposedly sleeping with.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/solange-knowles-hit-jay-z-rachel-roy-sources-article-1.1791892 Ok, I am convinced she is just mentally unstable if this is true. What stable adult would react like this?

[Anonymous]

Solange got into a fight with Rachel Roy before her fight with Jay that very night. Jay used to be business partners with Roy's husband Damon Dash before he and Damon had a falling out. Maybe Jay slept with Rachel?

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Anonymous wrote:Solange got into a fight with Rachel Roy before her fight with Jay that very night. Jay used to be business partners with Roy's husband Damon Dash before he and Damon had a falling out. Maybe Jay slept with Rachel?

Rachel and Damon have been divorced FOR YEARS
By the way, Damon is broke as hell
Thanks Jay!