Ward 2/3 High School proposal in the NW Current

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

Exactly. And the sooner the hyperventilating Janney parents understand that, the better. Seriously - the better for them.

Anyone who thinks that Wilson is exclusively white hasn't seen the bedlam that breaks loose most weekday afternoons in the Tenley Metro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

Exactly. And the sooner the hyperventilating Janney parents understand that, the better. Seriously - the better for them.

Anyone who thinks that Wilson is exclusively white hasn't seen the bedlam that breaks loose most weekday afternoons in the Tenley Metro.

Yes, and you don't get to try to eliminate that by excluding the non-lily-white feeder schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

Most stupid statement of the thread.

Congrats. That's an accomplishment for some people, it seems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're an idiot. Nobody wants a high school bottleneck in the western part of the city.

It's simple, really: many people can clearly foresee a looming overcrowding issue at Wilson. You have several choices:
1. Remove some feeder schools
2. Build greater capacity at Wilson
3. Create a new school.

If choosing 1., which feeder schools? Proponents of 3. realize that it may not be reasonable to remove east of the park feeder schools.

So, tell me again why I want?!? a bottleneck in my neighborhood. Or, stop denying the reality of the situation and tell me what you'd do.

NP -- I'd do #3 -- a new school, but outside of ward 3, e.g. the revitalized Roosevelt idea.

Thank you. Who would go to the new school? That is, how would this solution ease overcrowding at Wilson? Which feeders are you removing. (That's the hard question, so don't hide from it.)

Not PP, but I think the answer is easy: Powell, Oyster, Bancroft, maybe Shepherd. I'm sure I'm missing a few. This would be predicated on have quality MS and HS destinations.

Powell already feeds Raymond Education Campus for MS and Roosevelt for HS. This has no effect on the over-crowding at Wilson.

I stand corrected.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:

Powell already feeds Raymond Education Campus for MS and Roosevelt for HS. This has no effect on the over-crowding at Wilson.

I stand corrected.

Just for the record, Powell feed to Columbia Heights Education Campus rather than Raymond.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Families that drop out of the DCPS system and choose to attend charters should lose their feeder rights to attend Wilson[b].

Because the schools are so popular, I - as a pratical matter - lose my right to attend Basis or Latin after 5th grade. Let's take the same approach to Wilson, which is equally as popular.

This would reduce Wilson overcrowding, and have the beneficial impact of enticing a few more IB families to stay with Deal or Hardy instead of heading to charters - so it would make those two schools - Hardy in particular - stronger.

there isn't an issue of feeder rights, it's a matter of home address

There is an issue of feeder rights - Wilson is overcrowded because too many families have feeder rights or rights to attend Wilson by address. So one solution to this is to eliminate feeder rights or geographic rights to Wilson once a student attends a charter that continues through high school. That charter - which they get to choose - becomes their school of right. Every high school student would retain a matter-of-right school; for some it would be the charter that their parents chose; for others, it would be Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

If you are concerned about eliminating non-white, non-SES students from Hardy, how can you possibly put "gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo" on the table? You do know that Hardy is 78% AA/Hispanic, don
t you? And you do know that Hardy sends more AA/Hispanic students to Wilson than feed into Wilson from Shepherd via Deal, don't you?

If you have to eliminate either Shepherd (via Deal) or Hardy as a Wilson feeder, and you want to ensure that AA/Hispanic students continue to have the opportunity to attend Wilson, then eliminating Shepherd and keeping Hardy is a no-brainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Families that drop out of the DCPS system and choose to attend charters should lose their feeder rights to attend Wilson[b].

Because the schools are so popular, I - as a pratical matter - lose my right to attend Basis or Latin after 5th grade. Let's take the same approach to Wilson, which is equally as popular.

This would reduce Wilson overcrowding, and have the beneficial impact of enticing a few more IB families to stay with Deal or Hardy instead of heading to charters - so it would make those two schools - Hardy in particular - stronger.

there isn't an issue of feeder rights, it's a matter of home address

There is an issue of feeder rights - Wilson is overcrowded because too many families have feeder rights or rights to attend Wilson by address. So one solution to this is to eliminate feeder rights or geographic rights to Wilson once a student attends a charter that continues through high school. That charter - which they get to choose - becomes their school of right. Every high school student would retain a matter-of-right school; for some it would be the charter that their parents chose; for others, it would be Wilson.

well, instituting that would require a whole rewrite of the law. As it stands, a parent can decide at any time and for any reason to enroll their child in the public school assigned by boundary, and I'm pretty sure that right is not going to be removed by a policy change. You also don't account for the fact that charters can fold or be shut down, and charters don't start and stop at the same transition points as DCPS

[Anonymous]

plus there are schools like Basis with a model of atrition or like Walls where kids will simply find the academics too demanding. If you choose Walls and flunk out, what next?

[Anonymous]

attrition, sorry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

You mean if Bowser committed suicide?

There's not much to say of Bowser's record, but one thing is for sure and that's that Ward 4 WILL continue to feed Deal. If some of Ward 3 gets pushed out so be it. Wilson cannot be exclusively a Ward 3 school.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Powell already feeds Raymond Education Campus for MS and Roosevelt for HS. This has no effect on the over-crowding at Wilson.

I stand corrected.

Just for the record, Powell feed to Columbia Heights Education Campus rather than Raymond.

I entered an address (1414 Upshur, which is down the street from Powell) into EBIS and got:

Elementary = Powell
Middle = Raymond
High School = Roosevelt

http://dcatlas.dcgis.dc.gov/schools/

Is there some qualifying condition to CHEC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

If you are concerned about eliminating non-white, non-SES students from Hardy, how can you possibly put "gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo" on the table? You do know that Hardy is 78% AA/Hispanic, don
t you? And you do know that Hardy sends more AA/Hispanic students to Wilson than feed into Wilson from Shepherd via Deal, don't you?

If you have to eliminate either Shepherd (via Deal) or Hardy as a Wilson feeder, and you want to ensure that AA/Hispanic students continue to have the opportunity to attend Wilson, then eliminating Shepherd and keeping Hardy is a no-brainer.

I know that Hardy is mostly OOB whereas the Shepherd catchment into Deal is by right of address. So, Shepherd = diversity + proximity. Hardy does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:plus there are schools like Basis with a model of attrition or like Walls where kids will simply find the academics too demanding. If you choose Walls and flunk out, what next?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What nobody seems to be able to get into their head, much less accept, is that Wilson is NOT going to be exclusively white and high SES. If that means gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo, then so be it.

There is no education plan that eliminates Ellington, or removes Shepherd from Deal. (Not without suicide.)

If you are concerned about eliminating non-white, non-SES students from Hardy, how can you possibly put "gerrymandering Hardy into Cardozo" on the table? You do know that Hardy is 78% AA/Hispanic, don
t you? And you do know that Hardy sends more AA/Hispanic students to Wilson than feed into Wilson from Shepherd via Deal, don't you?

If you have to eliminate either Shepherd (via Deal) or Hardy as a Wilson feeder, and you want to ensure that AA/Hispanic students continue to have the opportunity to attend Wilson, then eliminating Shepherd and keeping Hardy is a no-brainer.

I know that Hardy is mostly OOB whereas the Shepherd catchment into Deal is by right of address. So, Shepherd = diversity + proximity. Hardy does not.

nice to see the updates.