Can/should we sue? Listing lies.

[Anonymous]

Square footage is determined by base measurement ok. He outside of he house. I doubt the painters know what they are saying. It is not th sum total of the rooms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not trying to be a jerk, but has anyone pointed out yet that when painters measure, they are measuring wall surface area and not square footage?

DING DING DING!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Square footage is determined by base measurement ok. He outside of he house. I doubt the painters know what they are saying. It is not th sum total of the rooms

huh?

[Anonymous]

I meant exterior measurements and second floor cut outs, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I meant exterior measurements and second floor cut outs, etc

What? Explain?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They said the house was 2700 square feet, but it looks like it's closer to 1800 square feet.

How could YOU not notice this huge difference.

How does this comment help anyone? Don't you have something better to do?

I like how everyone here is jumping on my back instead of saying yeah, the listing agent lies. Here's what you can and can't do.

Seems like a lot of out of work realtors are on the website. Go find some listings.

Honey, I don't think the agent lied. I think you didn't do your due diligence and/or you don't understand how to read listings or contacts, so whose fault is that?

Now with the Honey? I told you sweetheart made me gag. Stop trying to pretend you're different people.

Hahaha this is the best forum in a long time.

I'm a new poster. And you seriously need a fucking life, bitch.

[Anonymous]

OP is cray cray. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I keep repeating myself but again, why would anyone read what I write when they can instead busy themselves with thinking of names to call me? For the record: "moron", "fruitcake", "pleasant", and "confused" have been taken ladies and gentleman.

Again, the house is listed as having 2700 sq ft of living space - 900 per floor. The taxable living space is listed as 1800 sq ft total. Painters estimated it as being around 675 per floor, not 900. I was told by my agent that the taxable living space does NOT include basement. However, given that there is a cert of occupancy, I'm thinking he was wrong and it does. And if the tax living space DOES include the basement, the painters assessment of 675 makes sense.

SO my questions continue to be: does the tax living space take into account the basement when there is a cert of occupancy?
Second question - if we are getting 25% less house, what can we do?

To clearly point this out, with 900 sq per floor and 2700 sq ft total, the basement is obviously included in the total. 900 x X = 2700. You have 2 above graded floors right.
Without knowing where this house is located, I can only comment on Fairfax county. FC in their tax data breaks down "Above Grade Living Area" separate from "Basement Area" but both are listed. Considering FC is not telling anyone they cant live in their basement, adding basement sq ft to the above grade sq ft gives an accurate total for the entire house. I doubt the listing agent is forced to specify if the sq feet of living space includes Basement or not. If they were, then you would never see that happen but in the past when Ive looked at homes for sale, it seemed common place.

I personally think if you go to court with a contention of I didnt realize the listing of livable space included the basement, you would be laughed at.
Also if your contention is the tax data is wrong, my painters told me its 675 per floor, not 900, per the tax records, you will equally laughed at imo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I meant exterior measurements and second floor cut outs, etc

What? Explain?

Square footage and wall surface area are two different things. Very simply speaking, square footage is the length of a room multiplied by its width. This is often measured by the outside of the home--i.e. multiply the length of the house by its width. There are other ways to do it, of course, but you will get different answers.

Wall surface area, which is the measurement painters assess and care about (since they are painting the walls, of course), is height of room x width of room. Then, you must subtract out any "cutouts", which include doors, windows, etc. This number will, obviously, be less--often a lot less--than square footage.

Given what I know about painters, there's no way they "snickered" at OP because she thought the house 2700 Square feet and it's only 1800 (or 900 square feet per floor, when it's only 675). If they snickered at all, it's probably because they thought they were there to estimate 2700 square feet in wall surface area, which would be a much larger house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I meant exterior measurements and second floor cut outs, etc

What? Explain?

Not the poster you're asking, but it means that sq footage includes the entire space. You lose lots of space with walls. There are beams and drywall separating each room. Just an estimate, but if you have a four inch beam covered on both sides by a 3/4 inch thick piece of drywall, you lose that amount of sq. footage.

[Anonymous]

I was with my realtors when they double checked the square footage of my home. They take a gigantic tape measure to the outside of the house and subtract 2nd floor cutouts. Before you consult lawyers, do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I meant exterior measurements and second floor cut outs, etc

What? Explain?

Square footage and wall surface area are two different things. Very simply speaking, square footage is the length of a room multiplied by its width. This is often measured by the outside of the home--i.e. multiply the length of the house by its width. There are other ways to do it, of course, but you will get different answers.

Wall surface area, which is the measurement painters assess and care about (since they are painting the walls, of course), is height of room x width of room. Then, you must subtract out any "cutouts", which include doors, windows, etc. This number will, obviously, be less--often a lot less--than square footage.

Given what I know about painters, there's no way they "snickered" at OP because she thought the house 2700 Square feet and it's only 1800 (or 900 square feet per floor, when it's only 675). If they snickered at all, it's probably because they thought they were there to estimate 2700 square feet in wall surface area, which would be a much larger house.

+1 A painter's estimate is not the same as the actual SF of a house. Bottom line is that OP is a nutjob who has more money than brains.

[Anonymous]

I have lived in both a 2700 sq ft house and an 1800 sq ft house.

10 minute walk through or not, I still can't figure out how a person with functional eyes could mistke one for another.

[Anonymous]

Dear OP Look on the bright side- DC Georgetown- you beat out 10 ( or 15?) other bids. The value is there, you didn't overpay unless there was a huge difference between your escalated bid and the one before. Probably not. Probably not a 25% difference. Do you really think all of the other bids were based on the LA's square footage calculations? Take a deep breath and realize that you have a hot property. I don't see where you have been harmed in this transaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in both a 2700 sq ft house and an 1800 sq ft house.

10 minute walk through or not, I still can't figure out how a person with functional eyes could mistke one for another.

This is because the listing is right. She didn't make a mistake. I'm not sure why she believes her painters!