How did Bowdoin acceptance rate become so low?

[Anonymous]

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It's one of only 10 colleges that are need-blind for international students, so a lot of needy kids throw their hat in the ring, likely not realizing they have a 1.4% chance of acceptance.

The interesting thing is that the large number of applications from international students is not at all restricted to need-blind/meets full need SLACs like Bowdoin and Amherst. Other good SLACs like Haverford, Carleton, and Hamilton that don’t have this admission policy and that publish the international student data in their CDS’s have just as large a proportion of international apps and admit about the same proportion of those. Schools like Williams, Swarthmore, and Pomona that have comparable resources to Amherst and Bowdoin don’t publish their international applicant data, but I’d expect it to show the same thing. I think that all these schools are just popular with a certain strata of foreign families, many of whom probably don’t care about need-blind.

[Anonymous]

But why change presidents if they are doing a good job? Semantics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Bates and Middlebury so poor in comparison? Didn’t both fire their prior Presidents? Netflix guy must be giving big bucks to Bowdoin.

Middlebury is at $1.7B, and Bates at $500M. Hardly poor.

Bates at 239k per student is in trouble. Not in terms of closing or anything, but it will have to give lots of merit aid soon, and that starts a vicious feedback loop. Ask Conn College. Midd will have to start doing the same a decade or so later (at most).

I think the Midd analysis here is mostly BS. Midd welcomes more students than all these other lacs. If it accepted as few students as Pomona, it would be at $1.1 million/student and would have a nice drop in acceptance rate. Not every college is greedy and holds onto every penny for as few students as possible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Bates and Middlebury so poor in comparison? Didn’t both fire their prior Presidents? Netflix guy must be giving big bucks to Bowdoin.

Middlebury is at $1.7B, and Bates at $500M. Hardly poor.

Bates at 239k per student is in trouble. Not in terms of closing or anything, but it will have to give lots of merit aid soon, and that starts a vicious feedback loop. Ask Conn College. Midd will have to start doing the same a decade or so later (at most).

I think the Midd analysis here is mostly BS. Midd welcomes more students than all these other lacs. If it accepted as few students as Pomona, it would be at $1.1 million/student and would have a nice drop in acceptance rate. Not every college is greedy and holds onto every penny for as few students as possible.

Dear Midd Troll,

When is bedtime?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are Bates and Middlebury so poor in comparison? Didn’t both fire their prior Presidents? Netflix guy must be giving big bucks to Bowdoin.

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Um, because they are not the same caliber as WASP-B?[/quote]
why not? what can’t you get at Middlebury that you can at WASP?[/quote]
You mean WASP-B? What can’t you get at Conn College that you can’t get at Midd? [/quote]
Can you answer my question, because your whole reasoning is built off of it. What is so much worse about Middlebury than WASP? You literally just need to name one resource you can’t access.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Bates and Middlebury so poor in comparison? Didn’t both fire their prior Presidents? Netflix guy must be giving big bucks to Bowdoin.

Middlebury is at $1.7B, and Bates at $500M. Hardly poor.

Bates at 239k per student is in trouble. Not in terms of closing or anything, but it will have to give lots of merit aid soon, and that starts a vicious feedback loop. Ask Conn College. Midd will have to start doing the same a decade or so later (at most).

I think the Midd analysis here is mostly BS. Midd welcomes more students than all these other lacs. If it accepted as few students as Pomona, it would be at $1.1 million/student and would have a nice drop in acceptance rate. Not every college is greedy and holds onto every penny for as few students as possible.

Dear Midd Troll,

When is bedtime?

What’s trolling about accurately comparing these student populations? You just sound ignorant.

[Anonymous]

^sure maybe Midd could have 10 people in a freshman class.

[Anonymous]

Holy Cross booster--we can see through your BS. Your pattern is clear. You keep posting about Midd, Colby, Colgate, Bates, etc. falling behind, but you occasionally make the mistake of randomly throwing HC into your posts. It's usually digging at rural schools.

I guess you're hoping that by making these other schools look bad, somehow HC will magically rise in the rankings. Not happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are Bates and Middlebury so poor in comparison? Didn’t both fire their prior Presidents? Netflix guy must be giving big bucks to Bowdoin.

Middlebury is at $1.7B, and Bates at $500M. Hardly poor.

Bates at 239k per student is in trouble. Not in terms of closing or anything, but it will have to give lots of merit aid soon, and that starts a vicious feedback loop. Ask Conn College. Midd will have to start doing the same a decade or so later (at most).

I think the Midd analysis here is mostly BS. Midd welcomes more students than all these other lacs. If it accepted as few students as Pomona, it would be at $1.1 million/student and would have a nice drop in acceptance rate. Not every college is greedy and holds onto every penny for as few students as possible.

+1, WASP basically play the selectivity game. It’s not a bad thing, but if a school is maintaining a nice student faculty ratio with more students, they are investing their money in academics, which I think is a net good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^sure maybe Midd could have 10 people in a freshman class.

Holy strawman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Holy Cross booster--we can see through your BS. Your pattern is clear. You keep posting about Midd, Colby, Colgate, Bates, etc. falling behind, but you occasionally make the mistake of randomly throwing HC into your posts. It's usually digging at rural schools.

I guess you're hoping that by making these other schools look bad, somehow HC will magically rise in the rankings. Not happening.

This is a Bowdoin thread. You sound unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^sure maybe Midd could have 10 people in a freshman class.

Swarthmore has 1702 students.
Middlebury has about 2800 students.
These are facts lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Holy Cross booster--we can see through your BS. Your pattern is clear. You keep posting about Midd, Colby, Colgate, Bates, etc. falling behind, but you occasionally make the mistake of randomly throwing HC into your posts. It's usually digging at rural schools.

I guess you're hoping that by making these other schools look bad, somehow HC will magically rise in the rankings. Not happening.

This is a Bowdoin thread. You sound unhinged.

Could fool me, no one is talking about Bowdoin.

[Anonymous]

It’s a zero sum game for selective Lacs. Don’t have the pull of the SEC schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But why change presidents if they are doing a good job? Semantics.

Are you really this dumb? The average tenure of a college president is 6 years. Laurie Patton was president of Middlebury for almost 10 years and left to become the president of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences. Clayton Spencer was president of Bates for the same amount of time.