How much does Eagle Scouts help in college application?

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Anonymous wrote:Eagle Scout is not a great extracurricular. It’s an assortment of achievements of dubious value and impact. They are not difficult, for the athletic ones, the level of physical preparedness is average so in that sense is less demanding than a sport. Many are just reading up things and discuss with the counselor, and require no mastery or skills.

The badges that may be useful like First Aid, are much better done through other organizations like Red Cross, which take about the same amount of time, but you’re getting a certification that legitimately verifies the learned skills.

Same with swimming or lifeguarding, take it through Red Cross to actually mean something if the student is looking for a summer job. Nobody is taking scout badges seriously.

A part time job is way more impactful for college applications, just check the common data set, it’s listed as a criteria for many colleges.

False. Please read from Ivy Scholars. My own Eagle got into 2 Ivies, UVA and is now at Oxford heading for Yale Law. And if you don't believe that, I receive a class profile from Harvard Law every year, which tells me, amongst many other statistics, how many Eagles are in the next incoming class. https://www.ivyscholars.com/eagle-scout-scholarships-college-admissions/#:~:text=Colleges%20often%20ask%20about%20how,material%20for%20this%20in%20spades.

Are you sure your Eagle Scout didn’t also win the Nobel prize?

Scouting is a busy work extracurricular, what’s the most challenging part of becoming an Eagle
Scout? Nothing that on its own is worthy of mentioning in a college app.

All you do is reference websites and “experts” that say it’s good. Can you articulate why being an Eagle Scout is impressive for college applications? The amount of time it takes, how many kids get it is not relevant information. It’s a collection of meaningless badges that don’t count for anything.

The only area I’m aware of where scouting is relevant is Sea Scouts because it provides a path to be part of Coast Guard Auxiliary while in high school. That may matter to someone that is interested in a service academy, and you learn about boat safety, navigation, inspections, skills that are actually useful. The real benefit comes from the partnership with a professional organization like coast guard, not from the useless scouting activities.

[Anonymous]

PP is a fool.

[Anonymous]

Colleges like well rounded, responsible young adults with work ethic. That's Eagle Scouting. Better than a fake nonprofit, and just as good as a varsity sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges like well rounded, responsible young adults with work ethic. That's Eagle Scouting. Better than a fake nonprofit, and just as good as a varsity sport.

Is it? So a kid who wants to quit but mummy says he can’t at this late juncture so he sucks it up and finishes is better than a kid doing service work with an eye towards college apps?

Let’s be honest…that service work positively impacts many, even if not performed with a 100% pure heart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges like well rounded, responsible young adults with work ethic. That's Eagle Scouting. Better than a fake nonprofit, and just as good as a varsity sport.

Is it? So a kid who wants to quit but mummy says he can’t at this late juncture so he sucks it up and finishes is better than a kid doing service work with an eye towards college apps?

Let’s be honest…that service work positively impacts many, even if not performed with a 100% pure heart.

You can push a kid once or twice. It's impossible to push him/her 5 years and even longer. The ones who finished ES truly like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges like well rounded, responsible young adults with work ethic. That's Eagle Scouting. Better than a fake nonprofit, and just as good as a varsity sport.

Is it? So a kid who wants to quit but mummy says he can’t at this late juncture so he sucks it up and finishes is better than a kid doing service work with an eye towards college apps?

Let’s be honest…that service work positively impacts many, even if not performed with a 100% pure heart.

You can push a kid once or twice. It's impossible to push him/her 5 years and even longer. The ones who finished ES truly like it.

Yeah, same for nonprofit creators- the ones you’re dissing.

[Anonymous]

St. John’s University gives 25 percent off tuition for Eagle Scouts. And also beat Georgetown tonight in basketball

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The parents do most of the work for those with a non-profits, not the kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eagle Scout is not a great extracurricular. It’s an assortment of achievements of dubious value and impact. They are not difficult, for the athletic ones, the level of physical preparedness is average so in that sense is less demanding than a sport. Many are just reading up things and discuss with the counselor, and require no mastery or skills.

The badges that may be useful like First Aid, are much better done through other organizations like Red Cross, which take about the same amount of time, but you’re getting a certification that legitimately verifies the learned skills.

Same with swimming or lifeguarding, take it through Red Cross to actually mean something if the student is looking for a summer job. Nobody is taking scout badges seriously.

A part time job is way more impactful for college applications, just check the common data set, it’s listed as a criteria for many colleges.

False. Please read from Ivy Scholars. My own Eagle got into 2 Ivies, UVA and is now at Oxford heading for Yale Law. And if you don't believe that, I receive a class profile from Harvard Law every year, which tells me, amongst many other statistics, how many Eagles are in the next incoming class. https://www.ivyscholars.com/eagle-scout-scholarships-college-admissions/#:~:text=Colleges%20often%20ask%20about%20how,material%20for%20this%20in%20spades.

Are you sure your Eagle Scout didn’t also win the Nobel prize?

Scouting is a busy work extracurricular, what’s the most challenging part of becoming an Eagle
Scout? Nothing that on its own is worthy of mentioning in a college app.

All you do is reference websites and “experts” that say it’s good. Can you articulate why being an Eagle Scout is impressive for college applications? The amount of time it takes, how many kids get it is not relevant information. It’s a collection of meaningless badges that don’t count for anything.

The only area I’m aware of where scouting is relevant is Sea Scouts because it provides a path to be part of Coast Guard Auxiliary while in high school. That may matter to someone that is interested in a service academy, and you learn about boat safety, navigation, inspections, skills that are actually useful. The real benefit comes from the partnership with a professional organization like coast guard, not from the useless scouting activities.

You might want to google “Eagle Scout help college admissions” and start reading. The answers are all there. https://www.quadeducationgroup.com/blog/does-being-an-eagle-scout-help-with-college-admissions. And be sure to read the piece from Scouting magazine where 17 colleges are interviewed and the AOs explain why they like Eagle Scouts.

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Anonymous wrote:I follow a former college admissions counselor on Instagram and he just today gave his out of ten rankings for different activities- none scored a ten, but Eagle Scout was one of the few 9s he gave.

Can you share where to see this?

I follow so many of these accounts- sorry, I can’t find it or I’d link it. But Eagle Scout is super hard, shows years of dedication and work. I would agree that it’s gotta be a boost!

Its not that impressive. The projects I've seen have been things like, build a bench or put shelving into a storage shed. A lot of scouting hours and badges can be faked.

Sure, Jan.

New poster: I agree. I think it is great for showing sustained commitment, acts of service, and learning various things...BUT it is just an activity and lots and lots of kids have long term activities that show similar types of things. The Eagle Scouts we know are at VT, W&M, etc type of schools...and one ivy league but the ivy league kid was hooked. I suspect that the actual "edge" this conveys is from zero to minimal, depending what else the other kids are doing. For example, if a kid is a teen member of a school board for 7 years, this also shows learning various things, acts of service and sustained commitment. I think scouting parents believes this is a massive achievement when in reality most kids applying to highly rejective schools have significant achievements...and scouting isn't overshadowing other activities.

Scouting skews WAY lower income than other activities, like travel sports and orchestra etc. Even martial arts is way more expensive than scouts.

Its hard to untangle where they went to school and college placement in general, even with substantial aid, they may not feel comfortable going to a super wealthy environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I follow a former college admissions counselor on Instagram and he just today gave his out of ten rankings for different activities- none scored a ten, but Eagle Scout was one of the few 9s he gave.

Can you share where to see this?

I follow so many of these accounts- sorry, I can’t find it or I’d link it. But Eagle Scout is super hard, shows years of dedication and work. I would agree that it’s gotta be a boost!

Its not that impressive. The projects I've seen have been things like, build a bench or put shelving into a storage shed. A lot of scouting hours and badges can be faked.

Sure, Jan.

New poster: I agree. I think it is great for showing sustained commitment, acts of service, and learning various things...BUT it is just an activity and lots and lots of kids have long term activities that show similar types of things. The Eagle Scouts we know are at VT, W&M, etc type of schools...and one ivy league but the ivy league kid was hooked. I suspect that the actual "edge" this conveys is from zero to minimal, depending what else the other kids are doing. For example, if a kid is a teen member of a school board for 7 years, this also shows learning various things, acts of service and sustained commitment. I think scouting parents believes this is a massive achievement when in reality most kids applying to highly rejective schools have significant achievements...and scouting isn't overshadowing other activities.

Scouting skews WAY lower income than other activities, like travel sports and orchestra etc. Even martial arts is way more expensive than scouts.

Its hard to untangle where they went to school and college placement in general, even with substantial aid, they may not feel comfortable going to a super wealthy environment.

Not really…an eagle scout applying from Fairfax is still
Coming from FX.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eagle Scout is not a great extracurricular. It’s an assortment of achievements of dubious value and impact. They are not difficult, for the athletic ones, the level of physical preparedness is average so in that sense is less demanding than a sport. Many are just reading up things and discuss with the counselor, and require no mastery or skills.

The badges that may be useful like First Aid, are much better done through other organizations like Red Cross, which take about the same amount of time, but you’re getting a certification that legitimately verifies the learned skills.

Same with swimming or lifeguarding, take it through Red Cross to actually mean something if the student is looking for a summer job. Nobody is taking scout badges seriously.

A part time job is way more impactful for college applications, just check the common data set, it’s listed as a criteria for many colleges.

False. Please read from Ivy Scholars. My own Eagle got into 2 Ivies, UVA and is now at Oxford heading for Yale Law. And if you don't believe that, I receive a class profile from Harvard Law every year, which tells me, amongst many other statistics, how many Eagles are in the next incoming class. https://www.ivyscholars.com/eagle-scout-scholarships-college-admissions/#:~:text=Colleges%20often%20ask%20about%20how,material%20for%20this%20in%20spades.

Are you sure your Eagle Scout didn’t also win the Nobel prize?

Scouting is a busy work extracurricular, what’s the most challenging part of becoming an Eagle
Scout? Nothing that on its own is worthy of mentioning in a college app.

All you do is reference websites and “experts” that say it’s good. Can you articulate why being an Eagle Scout is impressive for college applications? The amount of time it takes, how many kids get it is not relevant information. It’s a collection of meaningless badges that don’t count for anything.

The only area I’m aware of where scouting is relevant is Sea Scouts because it provides a path to be part of Coast Guard Auxiliary while in high school. That may matter to someone that is interested in a service academy, and you learn about boat safety, navigation, inspections, skills that are actually useful. The real benefit comes from the partnership with a professional organization like coast guard, not from the useless scouting activities.

You might want to google “Eagle Scout help college admissions” and start reading. The answers are all there. https://www.quadeducationgroup.com/blog/does-being-an-eagle-scout-help-with-college-admissions. And be sure to read the piece from Scouting magazine where 17 colleges are interviewed and the AOs explain why they like Eagle Scouts.

So you can’t articulate a single sentence on your own why Eagle Scout is impressive for college and instead are telling me to google it or check Scouting magazine, a very impartial and credible source.

On its own being an Eagle Scout is not challenging or impressive. Again, in your opinion, what’s the most challenging part in achieving the rank, a 20 mile hike? The only benefit is that you might have some material to write about in your essay if your project was meaningful enough, but that’s true for most other volunteer opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges like well rounded, responsible young adults with work ethic. That's Eagle Scouting. Better than a fake nonprofit, and just as good as a varsity sport.

Is it? So a kid who wants to quit but mummy says he can’t at this late juncture so he sucks it up and finishes is better than a kid doing service work with an eye towards college apps?

Let’s be honest…that service work positively impacts many, even if not performed with a 100% pure heart.

You can push a kid once or twice. It's impossible to push him/her 5 years and even longer. The ones who finished ES truly like it.

Tiger mom says "hold my beer" her kid is going to play violin at carnegie hall her junior year in high school then never play again after she gets into college.

[Anonymous]

What about non-competitive kids that aren't into sports? Boy Scouts is a great outlet for them. In today's day and age, for a kid to be camping out under the stars without cellphones is priceless. I think colleges appreciate this aspect of it. The non-future lax playing finance bro who loves nature/environment, what a refreshing change!

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Anonymous wrote:What about non-competitive kids that aren't into sports? Boy Scouts is a great outlet for them. In today's day and age, for a kid to be camping out under the stars without cellphones is priceless. I think colleges appreciate this aspect of it. The non-future lax playing finance bro who loves nature/environment, what a refreshing change!

Camping and hiking are leisure activities, not accomplishments.