ADL creates new 'Mamdani Monitor' project

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Anonymous wrote:Remember that time CAIR set-up a special hotline and website for Pennsylvanians to file complaints and monitor Josh Shapiro after he was elected governor of the Commonwealth?

Yeah, me neither.


Has Josh Shapiro ever even suggested that an Islamophobic slogan (the equivalent of "globalize the intifada") is acceptable? No? Didn't think so.


No but Josh Shapiro has not spoken out against Israel while they are committing genocide (as called out by genocide scholars including ones of Jewish faith) in Gaza.


Wes Moore and Glenn Youngkin haven't "spoken out against Israel" either. Do you know why? Because they are AMERICAN, you dimwit. We have our own problems to deal with. A governor's job is to speak out against the wrongs happening in THEIR state. Think a little bit before posting such nonsense online.


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The PP is a rabid nutcase who spreads the same garbage on thread after thread.


Every single piece of "garbage" posted by most people on this forum critical of Israel and its foreign agents has a verifiable, mainstream citation. Zionists never post a cite. Neither do the zionists who pose as "third party" to proclaim that they're not interested but of course the anti-zionist is a zealot. I guess there aren't too many critical pieces you can find online that cite, "because the bible says so," as a definitive reason why zionism should exist.


This is a political forum in THE UNITED STATES! 99% of us here don't give a dang about Zionists or Zionism. Take your rabble rousing low IQ self to the Middle East, find a political forum there, and then rant and rave all you want about how much you love or hate Zionists to people that might, just might, give a dang about what you think of "Zionists".


It seems that a few more than 1% have opinions on the genocide state. These surveys are before the public schism among conservatives that erupted post TPUSA UVU shooting. The trends are irrefutable and irreversible. Every year, more youth will be old enough to vote and the boomers will continue dying.

Surveys based on a sample of all Americans:

Pew Research: Israel-Hamas Conflict 2 Years Into the War





Gallup: Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis



Humans have committed genocide and other atrocities against each other all over the globe since the inception of the human race. There are atrocities continuing to occur in most parts of the world. We all should care about our atrocities impacting our fellow human beings. Please, please tell us what this has to do with "Zionism" and how Zionism impacts people in Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, or Mississippi?


When we start pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into supporting the janjaweed we can talk!


Stop electing politicians who are controlled by groups with interests that conflict with your interests. Think. Do better.


That's the plan. Find your politicians here.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

Potential 2028 Presidential Candidates





Okay you’ve jumped the shark here, bud. I’m not going to vote for cluthu or Count Dracula (or mtg, ffs) solely bc of aipac.

But yes, broadly speaking, eff aipac and adl.


The point was not to advocate voting for these two people; but to show that anti-zionism has now become a non-partisan issue. If these two, who are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, with different upbringings, education, and religious beliefs, can agree on this, then what kind of person can be against the truth?


One, anti-semitism is ancient and crosses cultures and various (notice i said various, not all) ideologies--that doesn't mean it is "truth". It just means that it is a sad disease that a lot of people have.
I think this argument is illogical because it makes several jumps that are not justified. First, the fact that two people with different politics, backgrounds and beliefs agree on something does not show that the issue is nonpartisan or that their view is true. It is just a tiny sample, so treating it like proof about an entire political spectrum is a classic overgeneralization. Second, the reasoning treats their agreement as if it were evidence of truth in itself, which is basically an appeal to consensus instead of looking at actual reasons or evidence. Third, when it asks “what kind of person can be against the truth,” it quietly assumes that the position in question already is “the truth,” which is exactly what still needs to be shown. That is a form of question begging. Finally, it shifts from discussing the claim to implying that anyone who disagrees must be a bad or irrational kind of person, which is more of an emotional or character attack than a logical argument.


For normal people, anti-zionism does no longer equal anti-Jew. The fact that people like you keep equating anti-semitism = anti-zionism = anti-Jew makes your argument specious.

Anti-semitism is no longer a word that holds any power for many Americans, unless you're part of the ruling elite that the ADL smearing campaign can still touch. You need to start saying "anti-Jew" or "anti-Jewish" and imply that it means people who hold something against Jewish people who live in America. Then make your arguments. Don't include things like Israel or "the bible says" in your accusations.


"Anti-semitism is no longer a word that holds any power for many Americans"
Of course is does. Anti-semitism has been a cancer throughout world history and continues to this day.

"You need to start saying "anti-Jew" or "anti-Jewish" and imply that it means people who hold something against Jewish people who live in America. Then make your arguments."
I don't need to do anything you demand I do. Anti-semitism is real and throwing around "zionist" this and that is a often a dog whistle, a substitue for Jew.

Don't include things like Israel or "the bible says" in your accusations.
I can talk about Israel or the bible if I want (but I didn't in my post).


Like was said, it's anti-Jew not anti-zionism. Anti-zionism, by its IHRA definition, includes saying negative things about the state of Israel.

Keep the argument to America, Americans, and American history. Stop including the rest of the world. American history has been kind to the Jews when compared to other immigrant groups. Most people in America are not anti-Jew. However, most people have become anti-Israel and the percent is increasing.

Americans have become sick of the false outrage and constant paranoia that's whipped up to gain access to billions of American dollars and support for a terrorist state.

Anti-semitism no longer holds the same meaning because Israeli agents have bastardized the word.

Can the anti-zionist Jews be considered anti-Jewish? No.
Can the anti-zionist Jews be considered anti-semitic? According to the ADL, yes.

AP: Anti-Defamation League says anger at Israel is now the driving force behind antisemitism in the US

"The ADL said in its new report it is “careful to not conflate general criticism of Israel or anti-Israel activism with antisemitism.” But there are gray areas. For example, the ADL contends that vilification of Zionism — the movement to establish and protect a Jewish state in Israel — is a form of antisemitism, yet some Jews are among the critics of Zionism and of the ADL itself."
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Longterm, this strategy will backfire for younger generations of Americans. You gotta know when to chill. The guy is literally running on pocketbook, local issues, not religious ideology. If he isn't successful in his first term, who do you think gets blamed? The very groups who threw a ridiculous amount of money and fear mongering at the race.

The ADL CEO was on Morning Joe and completely embarrassed himself last week. Even Scarborough called him out a bit. Cringeworthy with the dog whistles.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember that time CAIR set-up a special hotline and website for Pennsylvanians to file complaints and monitor Josh Shapiro after he was elected governor of the Commonwealth?

Yeah, me neither.


Has Josh Shapiro ever even suggested that an Islamophobic slogan (the equivalent of "globalize the intifada") is acceptable? No? Didn't think so.


No but Josh Shapiro has not spoken out against Israel while they are committing genocide (as called out by genocide scholars including ones of Jewish faith) in Gaza.


Wes Moore and Glenn Youngkin haven't "spoken out against Israel" either. Do you know why? Because they are AMERICAN, you dimwit. We have our own problems to deal with. A governor's job is to speak out against the wrongs happening in THEIR state. Think a little bit before posting such nonsense online.


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The PP is a rabid nutcase who spreads the same garbage on thread after thread.


Every single piece of "garbage" posted by most people on this forum critical of Israel and its foreign agents has a verifiable, mainstream citation. Zionists never post a cite. Neither do the zionists who pose as "third party" to proclaim that they're not interested but of course the anti-zionist is a zealot. I guess there aren't too many critical pieces you can find online that cite, "because the bible says so," as a definitive reason why zionism should exist.


This is a political forum in THE UNITED STATES! 99% of us here don't give a dang about Zionists or Zionism. Take your rabble rousing low IQ self to the Middle East, find a political forum there, and then rant and rave all you want about how much you love or hate Zionists to people that might, just might, give a dang about what you think of "Zionists".


It seems that a few more than 1% have opinions on the genocide state. These surveys are before the public schism among conservatives that erupted post TPUSA UVU shooting. The trends are irrefutable and irreversible. Every year, more youth will be old enough to vote and the boomers will continue dying.

Surveys based on a sample of all Americans:

Pew Research: Israel-Hamas Conflict 2 Years Into the War





Gallup: Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis



Humans have committed genocide and other atrocities against each other all over the globe since the inception of the human race. There are atrocities continuing to occur in most parts of the world. We all should care about our atrocities impacting our fellow human beings. Please, please tell us what this has to do with "Zionism" and how Zionism impacts people in Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, or Mississippi?


When we start pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into supporting the janjaweed we can talk!


Stop electing politicians who are controlled by groups with interests that conflict with your interests. Think. Do better.


That's the plan. Find your politicians here.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

Potential 2028 Presidential Candidates





Okay you’ve jumped the shark here, bud. I’m not going to vote for cluthu or Count Dracula (or mtg, ffs) solely bc of aipac.

But yes, broadly speaking, eff aipac and adl.


The point was not to advocate voting for these two people; but to show that anti-zionism has now become a non-partisan issue. If these two, who are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, with different upbringings, education, and religious beliefs, can agree on this, then what kind of person can be against the truth?


One, anti-semitism is ancient and crosses cultures and various (notice i said various, not all) ideologies--that doesn't mean it is "truth". It just means that it is a sad disease that a lot of people have.
I think this argument is illogical because it makes several jumps that are not justified. First, the fact that two people with different politics, backgrounds and beliefs agree on something does not show that the issue is nonpartisan or that their view is true. It is just a tiny sample, so treating it like proof about an entire political spectrum is a classic overgeneralization. Second, the reasoning treats their agreement as if it were evidence of truth in itself, which is basically an appeal to consensus instead of looking at actual reasons or evidence. Third, when it asks “what kind of person can be against the truth,” it quietly assumes that the position in question already is “the truth,” which is exactly what still needs to be shown. That is a form of question begging. Finally, it shifts from discussing the claim to implying that anyone who disagrees must be a bad or irrational kind of person, which is more of an emotional or character attack than a logical argument.


For normal people, anti-zionism does no longer equal anti-Jew. The fact that people like you keep equating anti-semitism = anti-zionism = anti-Jew makes your argument specious.

Anti-semitism is no longer a word that holds any power for many Americans, unless you're part of the ruling elite that the ADL smearing campaign can still touch. You need to start saying "anti-Jew" or "anti-Jewish" and imply that it means people who hold something against Jewish people who live in America. Then make your arguments. Don't include things like Israel or "the bible says" in your accusations.


"Anti-semitism is no longer a word that holds any power for many Americans"
Of course is does. Anti-semitism has been a cancer throughout world history and continues to this day.

"You need to start saying "anti-Jew" or "anti-Jewish" and imply that it means people who hold something against Jewish people who live in America. Then make your arguments."
I don't need to do anything you demand I do. Anti-semitism is real and throwing around "zionist" this and that is a often a dog whistle, a substitue for Jew.

Don't include things like Israel or "the bible says" in your accusations.
I can talk about Israel or the bible if I want (but I didn't in my post).


Like was said, it's anti-Jew not anti-zionism. Anti-zionism, by its IHRA definition, includes saying negative things about the state of Israel.

Keep the argument to America, Americans, and American history. Stop including the rest of the world. American history has been kind to the Jews when compared to other immigrant groups. Most people in America are not anti-Jew. However, most people have become anti-Israel and the percent is increasing.

Americans have become sick of the false outrage and constant paranoia that's whipped up to gain access to billions of American dollars and support for a terrorist state.

Anti-semitism no longer holds the same meaning because Israeli agents have bastardized the word.

Can the anti-zionist Jews be considered anti-Jewish? No.
Can the anti-zionist Jews be considered anti-semitic? According to the ADL, yes.

AP: Anti-Defamation League says anger at Israel is now the driving force behind antisemitism in the US

"The ADL said in its new report it is “careful to not conflate general criticism of Israel or anti-Israel activism with antisemitism.” But there are gray areas. For example, the ADL contends that vilification of Zionism — the movement to establish and protect a Jewish state in Israel — is a form of antisemitism, yet some Jews are among the critics of Zionism and of the ADL itself."


One, again, don't tell me what to do. I can say what I want. Two, also, I don't consider you a spokesperson for Americans. Three, as I said earlier, at times, I would argue most times, "Zionist" is used as an anti-Semitic dog whistle. Just because you don't like this being said, doesn't mean its not true or that people will stop declearing this truth. We can go back and forth all night about this. You telling me what not to say, and I saying it anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:Longterm, this strategy will backfire for younger generations of Americans. You gotta know when to chill. The guy is literally running on pocketbook, local issues, not religious ideology. If he isn't successful in his first term, who do you think gets blamed? The very groups who threw a ridiculous amount of money and fear mongering at the race.

The ADL CEO was on Morning Joe and completely embarrassed himself last week. Even Scarborough called him out a bit. Cringeworthy with the dog whistles.


+1 thanks to the PP who posted the Substack, very thoughtful piece.

People can see and hear with their own eyes and ears. You can't talk about your own safety and expect sympathy when you are basically defaming someone else and undercutting another whole group's sense of safety and belonging.
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Anonymous wrote:Longterm, this strategy will backfire for younger generations of Americans. You gotta know when to chill. The guy is literally running on pocketbook, local issues, not religious ideology. If he isn't successful in his first term, who do you think gets blamed? The very groups who threw a ridiculous amount of money and fear mongering at the race.

The ADL CEO was on Morning Joe and completely embarrassed himself last week. Even Scarborough called him out a bit. Cringeworthy with the dog whistles.


+1 thanks to the PP who posted the Substack, very thoughtful piece.

People can see and hear with their own eyes and ears. You can't talk about your own safety and expect sympathy when you are basically defaming someone else and undercutting another whole group's sense of safety and belonging.


Yes, Palestinians in Gaza do not understand this.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember that time CAIR set-up a special hotline and website for Pennsylvanians to file complaints and monitor Josh Shapiro after he was elected governor of the Commonwealth?

Yeah, me neither.


Has Josh Shapiro ever even suggested that an Islamophobic slogan (the equivalent of "globalize the intifada") is acceptable? No? Didn't think so.


No but Josh Shapiro has not spoken out against Israel while they are committing genocide (as called out by genocide scholars including ones of Jewish faith) in Gaza.


Wes Moore and Glenn Youngkin haven't "spoken out against Israel" either. Do you know why? Because they are AMERICAN, you dimwit. We have our own problems to deal with. A governor's job is to speak out against the wrongs happening in THEIR state. Think a little bit before posting such nonsense online.


+100
The PP is a rabid nutcase who spreads the same garbage on thread after thread.


Every single piece of "garbage" posted by most people on this forum critical of Israel and its foreign agents has a verifiable, mainstream citation. Zionists never post a cite. Neither do the zionists who pose as "third party" to proclaim that they're not interested but of course the anti-zionist is a zealot. I guess there aren't too many critical pieces you can find online that cite, "because the bible says so," as a definitive reason why zionism should exist.


This is a political forum in THE UNITED STATES! 99% of us here don't give a dang about Zionists or Zionism. Take your rabble rousing low IQ self to the Middle East, find a political forum there, and then rant and rave all you want about how much you love or hate Zionists to people that might, just might, give a dang about what you think of "Zionists".


It seems that a few more than 1% have opinions on the genocide state. These surveys are before the public schism among conservatives that erupted post TPUSA UVU shooting. The trends are irrefutable and irreversible. Every year, more youth will be old enough to vote and the boomers will continue dying.

Surveys based on a sample of all Americans:

Pew Research: Israel-Hamas Conflict 2 Years Into the War





Gallup: Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis



Humans have committed genocide and other atrocities against each other all over the globe since the inception of the human race. There are atrocities continuing to occur in most parts of the world. We all should care about our atrocities impacting our fellow human beings. Please, please tell us what this has to do with "Zionism" and how Zionism impacts people in Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, or Mississippi?


When we start pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into supporting the janjaweed we can talk!


Stop electing politicians who are controlled by groups with interests that conflict with your interests. Think. Do better.


That's the plan. Find your politicians here.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

Potential 2028 Presidential Candidates





Okay you’ve jumped the shark here, bud. I’m not going to vote for cluthu or Count Dracula (or mtg, ffs) solely bc of aipac.

But yes, broadly speaking, eff aipac and adl.


The point was not to advocate voting for these two people; but to show that anti-zionism has now become a non-partisan issue. If these two, who are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, with different upbringings, education, and religious beliefs, can agree on this, then what kind of person can be against the truth?


One, anti-semitism is ancient and crosses cultures and various (notice i said various, not all) ideologies--that doesn't mean it is "truth". It just means that it is a sad disease that a lot of people have.
I think this argument is illogical because it makes several jumps that are not justified. First, the fact that two people with different politics, backgrounds and beliefs agree on something does not show that the issue is nonpartisan or that their view is true. It is just a tiny sample, so treating it like proof about an entire political spectrum is a classic overgeneralization. Second, the reasoning treats their agreement as if it were evidence of truth in itself, which is basically an appeal to consensus instead of looking at actual reasons or evidence. Third, when it asks “what kind of person can be against the truth,” it quietly assumes that the position in question already is “the truth,” which is exactly what still needs to be shown. That is a form of question begging. Finally, it shifts from discussing the claim to implying that anyone who disagrees must be a bad or irrational kind of person, which is more of an emotional or character attack than a logical argument.


The anti-Zionism most Americans are seeing is wholly deserved (based on Israel’s policies and actions, as well as Zionism’s corruption of our political class here in America), so the rest of your word salad is irrelevant.

Your attempt to argue that anti-Semitism is rampant and threatens the safety of Jewish people also falls flat.


Lots of words to say you don't like what I said and you disagree with it. Which is your right. But the pro-Palestine movement is not the new American committee that needs to approve all discourse and action because its has the ear of the far right and left, so not looking for your approval.


Maybe 10% of the “anti-Zionist” movement would characterize themselves as “pro-Palestine”. Maybe even less than 10%.

You just don’t get it. You’ll never get it.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember that time CAIR set-up a special hotline and website for Pennsylvanians to file complaints and monitor Josh Shapiro after he was elected governor of the Commonwealth?

Yeah, me neither.


Has Josh Shapiro ever even suggested that an Islamophobic slogan (the equivalent of "globalize the intifada") is acceptable? No? Didn't think so.


No but Josh Shapiro has not spoken out against Israel while they are committing genocide (as called out by genocide scholars including ones of Jewish faith) in Gaza.


Wes Moore and Glenn Youngkin haven't "spoken out against Israel" either. Do you know why? Because they are AMERICAN, you dimwit. We have our own problems to deal with. A governor's job is to speak out against the wrongs happening in THEIR state. Think a little bit before posting such nonsense online.


+100
The PP is a rabid nutcase who spreads the same garbage on thread after thread.


Every single piece of "garbage" posted by most people on this forum critical of Israel and its foreign agents has a verifiable, mainstream citation. Zionists never post a cite. Neither do the zionists who pose as "third party" to proclaim that they're not interested but of course the anti-zionist is a zealot. I guess there aren't too many critical pieces you can find online that cite, "because the bible says so," as a definitive reason why zionism should exist.


This is a political forum in THE UNITED STATES! 99% of us here don't give a dang about Zionists or Zionism. Take your rabble rousing low IQ self to the Middle East, find a political forum there, and then rant and rave all you want about how much you love or hate Zionists to people that might, just might, give a dang about what you think of "Zionists".


It seems that a few more than 1% have opinions on the genocide state. These surveys are before the public schism among conservatives that erupted post TPUSA UVU shooting. The trends are irrefutable and irreversible. Every year, more youth will be old enough to vote and the boomers will continue dying.

Surveys based on a sample of all Americans:

Pew Research: Israel-Hamas Conflict 2 Years Into the War





Gallup: Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis



Humans have committed genocide and other atrocities against each other all over the globe since the inception of the human race. There are atrocities continuing to occur in most parts of the world. We all should care about our atrocities impacting our fellow human beings. Please, please tell us what this has to do with "Zionism" and how Zionism impacts people in Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, or Mississippi?


When we start pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into supporting the janjaweed we can talk!


Stop electing politicians who are controlled by groups with interests that conflict with your interests. Think. Do better.


That's the plan. Find your politicians here.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

Potential 2028 Presidential Candidates





Okay you’ve jumped the shark here, bud. I’m not going to vote for cluthu or Count Dracula (or mtg, ffs) solely bc of aipac.

But yes, broadly speaking, eff aipac and adl.


The point was not to advocate voting for these two people; but to show that anti-zionism has now become a non-partisan issue. If these two, who are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, with different upbringings, education, and religious beliefs, can agree on this, then what kind of person can be against the truth?


One, anti-semitism is ancient and crosses cultures and various (notice i said various, not all) ideologies--that doesn't mean it is "truth". It just means that it is a sad disease that a lot of people have.
I think this argument is illogical because it makes several jumps that are not justified. First, the fact that two people with different politics, backgrounds and beliefs agree on something does not show that the issue is nonpartisan or that their view is true. It is just a tiny sample, so treating it like proof about an entire political spectrum is a classic overgeneralization. Second, the reasoning treats their agreement as if it were evidence of truth in itself, which is basically an appeal to consensus instead of looking at actual reasons or evidence. Third, when it asks “what kind of person can be against the truth,” it quietly assumes that the position in question already is “the truth,” which is exactly what still needs to be shown. That is a form of question begging. Finally, it shifts from discussing the claim to implying that anyone who disagrees must be a bad or irrational kind of person, which is more of an emotional or character attack than a logical argument.


The anti-Zionism most Americans are seeing is wholly deserved (based on Israel’s policies and actions, as well as Zionism’s corruption of our political class here in America), so the rest of your word salad is irrelevant.

Your attempt to argue that anti-Semitism is rampant and threatens the safety of Jewish people also falls flat.


Lots of words to say you don't like what I said and you disagree with it. Which is your right. But the pro-Palestine movement is not the new American committee that needs to approve all discourse and action because its has the ear of the far right and left, so not looking for your approval.


Maybe 10% of the “anti-Zionist” movement would characterize themselves as “pro-Palestine”. Maybe even less than 10%.

You just don’t get it. You’ll never get it.


Yes, as I said, anti-Semitism has been around even before the beginnings of the pro-Palestine movement in the 20th century. So what? A popular opinion doesn't mean it is right.

I guess I can say to you "You just don’t get it. You’ll never get it." but there is not point because anyone who disagrees with another person can say that to the other...so it is pointless in communication.
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Anonymous wrote:Longterm, this strategy will backfire for younger generations of Americans. You gotta know when to chill. The guy is literally running on pocketbook, local issues, not religious ideology. If he isn't successful in his first term, who do you think gets blamed? The very groups who threw a ridiculous amount of money and fear mongering at the race.

The ADL CEO was on Morning Joe and completely embarrassed himself last week. Even Scarborough called him out a bit. Cringeworthy with the dog whistles.


+1 thanks to the PP who posted the Substack, very thoughtful piece.

People can see and hear with their own eyes and ears. You can't talk about your own safety and expect sympathy when you are basically defaming someone else and undercutting another whole group's sense of safety and belonging.


I think this is the piece you're referring to.

It's important to include the many Jewish people, both religious and lay, who have always existed, who have not toed the line, but have been marginalized by academia and not given a platform by MSM. They are both thoughtful and circumspect. The internet has given them a voice. Even as zionist billionaires seek to silence them by purchasing media outlets and social media sites. Yet they are being heard.
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Anonymous wrote:Longterm, this strategy will backfire for younger generations of Americans. You gotta know when to chill. The guy is literally running on pocketbook, local issues, not religious ideology. If he isn't successful in his first term, who do you think gets blamed? The very groups who threw a ridiculous amount of money and fear mongering at the race.

The ADL CEO was on Morning Joe and completely embarrassed himself last week. Even Scarborough called him out a bit. Cringeworthy with the dog whistles.


+1 thanks to the PP who posted the Substack, very thoughtful piece.

People can see and hear with their own eyes and ears. You can't talk about your own safety and expect sympathy when you are basically defaming someone else and undercutting another whole group's sense of safety and belonging.


I think this is the piece you're referring to.

It's important to include the many Jewish people, both religious and lay, who have always existed, who have not toed the line, but have been marginalized by academia and not given a platform by MSM. They are both thoughtful and circumspect. The internet has given them a voice. Even as zionist billionaires seek to silence them by purchasing media outlets and social media sites. Yet they are being heard.


Of course you like the Jews who agree with you and you think they should represent Jews. We all like those who agree with us. As for me, Jews can think for themselves. I don't need to have an opinion on their thoughts. I don't have an agenda for them.
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Anonymous wrote:Longterm, this strategy will backfire for younger generations of Americans. You gotta know when to chill. The guy is literally running on pocketbook, local issues, not religious ideology. If he isn't successful in his first term, who do you think gets blamed? The very groups who threw a ridiculous amount of money and fear mongering at the race.

The ADL CEO was on Morning Joe and completely embarrassed himself last week. Even Scarborough called him out a bit. Cringeworthy with the dog whistles.


+1 thanks to the PP who posted the Substack, very thoughtful piece.

People can see and hear with their own eyes and ears. You can't talk about your own safety and expect sympathy when you are basically defaming someone else and undercutting another whole group's sense of safety and belonging.


I think this is the piece you're referring to.

It's important to include the many Jewish people, both religious and lay, who have always existed, who have not toed the line, but have been marginalized by academia and not given a platform by MSM. They are both thoughtful and circumspect. The internet has given them a voice. Even as zionist billionaires seek to silence them by purchasing media outlets and social media sites. Yet they are being heard.


Of course you like the Jews who agree with you and you think they should represent Jews. We all like those who agree with us. As for me, Jews can think for themselves. I don't need to have an opinion on their thoughts. I don't have an agenda for them.


You seem very opinionated and very invested in this thread for someone who insists you have no dog in the fight.

Moreover, going on these white knight soliloquies in defense of war criminals and an ethno-supremacist cult straight outta fantasyland is a really weird kink, but to each his own, I guess.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are writing their hands and worried about the mayor of a city they’ll never live in.

NYC has had 110 mayors, very few of which, if any, became politicians of any consequence.


You mean the way people like you obsessed about DeSantis being governor of Florida, a state you'll never live in? How many pages of hysterical posts did we have about him when he won reelection (by a landslide)?

But I do agree with your last sentence. I have no doubt Mamdani will ever become a politician of any consequence.


A mayor is very different from a governor.
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Anonymous wrote:Remember that time CAIR set-up a special hotline and website for Pennsylvanians to file complaints and monitor Josh Shapiro after he was elected governor of the Commonwealth?

Yeah, me neither.


Has Josh Shapiro ever even suggested that an Islamophobic slogan (the equivalent of "globalize the intifada") is acceptable? No? Didn't think so.


No but Josh Shapiro has not spoken out against Israel while they are committing genocide (as called out by genocide scholars including ones of Jewish faith) in Gaza.


Wes Moore and Glenn Youngkin haven't "spoken out against Israel" either. Do you know why? Because they are AMERICAN, you dimwit. We have our own problems to deal with. A governor's job is to speak out against the wrongs happening in THEIR state. Think a little bit before posting such nonsense online.


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The PP is a rabid nutcase who spreads the same garbage on thread after thread.


Every single piece of "garbage" posted by most people on this forum critical of Israel and its foreign agents has a verifiable, mainstream citation. Zionists never post a cite. Neither do the zionists who pose as "third party" to proclaim that they're not interested but of course the anti-zionist is a zealot. I guess there aren't too many critical pieces you can find online that cite, "because the bible says so," as a definitive reason why zionism should exist.


This is a political forum in THE UNITED STATES! 99% of us here don't give a dang about Zionists or Zionism. Take your rabble rousing low IQ self to the Middle East, find a political forum there, and then rant and rave all you want about how much you love or hate Zionists to people that might, just might, give a dang about what you think of "Zionists".


It seems that a few more than 1% have opinions on the genocide state. These surveys are before the public schism among conservatives that erupted post TPUSA UVU shooting. The trends are irrefutable and irreversible. Every year, more youth will be old enough to vote and the boomers will continue dying.

Surveys based on a sample of all Americans:

Pew Research: Israel-Hamas Conflict 2 Years Into the War





Gallup: Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis



Humans have committed genocide and other atrocities against each other all over the globe since the inception of the human race. There are atrocities continuing to occur in most parts of the world. We all should care about our atrocities impacting our fellow human beings. Please, please tell us what this has to do with "Zionism" and how Zionism impacts people in Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, or Mississippi?


When we start pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into supporting the janjaweed we can talk!


Stop electing politicians who are controlled by groups with interests that conflict with your interests. Think. Do better.


That's the plan. Find your politicians here.

https://www.trackaipac.com/

Potential 2028 Presidential Candidates





Who said AIPAC contradicts with U.S.'s interests? Just you feverently says it does doesn't mean that is true.


All special interests groups who have corrupted the politicians of our awful major political parties contradict with the interests of the American people. AIPAC is one of many.
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Grew up in NYC with my mom & Jewish stepfather of 50 years. He had an English first name for business but in the family he was called by his Yiddish name.

My son went to college in a town in Maine with a large vibrant Somali community. That's where he met my DIL. My son converted to Islam because it was very important to her family, much like I signed off on the Catholic stuff my own in-laws wanted me to accept. We even sent our kids to Catholic schools.

Now my first grandchildren are going to be muslim and both my in-laws and my mother have basically said he's dead to them.

The anti-religion and race bigotry just blows my mind.
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Anonymous wrote:Grew up in NYC with my mom & Jewish stepfather of 50 years. He had an English first name for business but in the family he was called by his Yiddish name.

My son went to college in a town in Maine with a large vibrant Somali community. That's where he met my DIL. My son converted to Islam because it was very important to her family, much like I signed off on the Catholic stuff my own in-laws wanted me to accept. We even sent our kids to Catholic schools.

Now my first grandchildren are going to be muslim and both my in-laws and my mother have basically said he's dead to them.

The anti-religion and race bigotry just blows my mind.


Well, he did go to Catholic school. Was your son not a practicing Catholic?

It is disturbing when practicing, believing, people of any faith convert to another religion for marriage. For Catholics, that is an enormous (existential) sacrifice. In accepting Islam, a convert turns his back on redemption, on the Trinity.

It makes me question whether I really knew the convert.
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Anonymous wrote:Grew up in NYC with my mom & Jewish stepfather of 50 years. He had an English first name for business but in the family he was called by his Yiddish name.

My son went to college in a town in Maine with a large vibrant Somali community. That's where he met my DIL. My son converted to Islam because it was very important to her family, much like I signed off on the Catholic stuff my own in-laws wanted me to accept. We even sent our kids to Catholic schools.

Now my first grandchildren are going to be muslim and both my in-laws and my mother have basically said he's dead to them.

The anti-religion and race bigotry just blows my mind.


Well, he did go to Catholic school. Was your son not a practicing Catholic?

It is disturbing when practicing, believing, people of any faith convert to another religion for marriage. For Catholics, that is an enormous (existential) sacrifice. In accepting Islam, a convert turns his back on redemption, on the Trinity.

It makes me question whether I really knew the convert.

Would you say the same for a Christian spouse who converts to Judaism?
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