My carpenter makes $116/hour

[Anonymous]

Comparing to carpentry was a mistake for reasons already discussed here. Yes, $248K is lower salary than I would want for taking on the training, debt, and lifestyle associated with being a doctor. In this area I would want 500K or more to be a physician.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who are these med students who do not get residencies? Are these the students who did poorly on their board scores?

Exactly.

OP likely works for health insurance. They want us to get worse healthcare so they can pay even less.

OP. I don’t. Insurers are the scum of the earth and I would never work for one. Somehow all the ire gets directed at doctors instead of at insurers who are the real scam artists making medicine worse. But people love to take it out on the doctor bc that’s who’s in front of them.

[Anonymous]

If you were a carpenter, and I were a lady.
Would you marry me anyway, would you have my baby?

[Anonymous]

He comes home sore and exhausted every day, risks cutting off his own hand or falling off a ladder, and his body will force him to retire by 50. You have the much easier job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From that, your carpenter has to pay for health insurance, retirement/401k, insurance for his company, overhead costs, various taxes, etc.

He works alone, has no employees. Out of my $124/hr I also have to pay retirement, insurance (health, disability), plus umbrella not included, commuting, taxes, etc. None of which are deductible against income.

Just because he didn’t go to medical school doesn’t mean his trade doesnt require specific skills and knowledge and have its own licensing requirements. You want your carpenter to know how to ensure your walls and house aren’t going to fall down. It’s gross that people look down on the trades when they are every bit as needed as other fields.

Exactly. There is where I stop reading the thread. The carpenter also has an important set of skills. I can’t do what he does. Neither can AI.

He earned the money. Good for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From that, your carpenter has to pay for health insurance, retirement/401k, insurance for his company, overhead costs, various taxes, etc.

+1. Also, his business can have periods of less work. It’s not comparable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Comparing to carpentry was a mistake for reasons already discussed here. Yes, $248K is lower salary than I would want for taking on the training, debt, and lifestyle associated with being a doctor. In this area I would want 500K or more to be a physician.

Then pick a medical specialty that pays that much. Do the residency and fellowship. Or go into hospital management. You sound very entitled. No one owes you a $500k salary just for finishing medical school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Comparing to carpentry was a mistake for reasons already discussed here. Yes, $248K is lower salary than I would want for taking on the training, debt, and lifestyle associated with being a doctor. In this area I would want 500K or more to be a physician.

Then pick a medical specialty that pays that much. Do the residency and fellowship. Or go into hospital management. You sound very entitled. No one owes you a $500k salary just for finishing medical school.

I am not a doctor, I am in a non-medical profession and make more than OP with a BA degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP, do you also begrudge a CEO his salary who only completed a 2 year master's program but makes 20 times more than you do? Or do you just look down your nose at blue collar workers?

Ding ding 🛎️ !!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For general services. I am a physician and make $124/hour. After 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, $250K post-graduate educational debt, 5 years of post medical school training working 90 hours a week for $50-$70k/year (latter only at the end), and 10 years of additional clinical experience. I am a W2 employee and cannot deduct expenses.

This country is headed for a very very serious physician shortage.

Union carpenters in NYC make almost double that amount.

No they don't. [/quote

Get your facts straight before you talk shit.

My brother is an NYC Union carpenter and makes over $220 an hour. He’s retiring at 55 next month with a large annuity and a healthy pension.

[Anonymous]

I don't have a high school degree and make over a million.

And I know plenty of carpenters that make 500k or more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Comparing to carpentry was a mistake for reasons already discussed here. Yes, $248K is lower salary than I would want for taking on the training, debt, and lifestyle associated with being a doctor. In this area I would want 500K or more to be a physician.

Then pick a medical specialty that pays that much. Do the residency and fellowship. Or go into hospital management. You sound very entitled. No one owes you a $500k salary just for finishing medical school.

OP. I didn’t write this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Comparing to carpentry was a mistake for reasons already discussed here. Yes, $248K is lower salary than I would want for taking on the training, debt, and lifestyle associated with being a doctor. In this area I would want 500K or more to be a physician.

Then pick a medical specialty that pays that much. Do the residency and fellowship. Or go into hospital management. You sound very entitled. No one owes you a $500k salary just for finishing medical school.

I am not a doctor, I am in a non-medical profession and make more than OP with a BA degree.

What do you do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who are these med students who do not get residencies? Are these the students who did poorly on their board scores?

Exactly.

OP likely works for health insurance. They want us to get worse healthcare so they can pay even less.

OP. I don’t. Insurers are the scum of the earth and I would never work for one. Somehow all the ire gets directed at doctors instead of at insurers who are the real scam artists making medicine worse. But people love to take it out on the doctor bc that’s who’s in front of them.

There's plenty of ire directed at insurers, some warranted, some not.

But YOU started this thread, with your ridiculous whining about how your carpenter makes too much, and you don't make enough.

You know what? Be better at your job, and you'll make more.

To compare to another profession, a few lawyers become biglaw partners and make millions of dollars. But most of them work in small firms and companies and make a small fraction of that. None of them are entitled to a $500k salary, and neither are you.

[Anonymous]

Jesus was a carpenter too.