Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

Gatehouse is this you....my kid was constantly losing 30-45 minutes of instructional time in History class and he was there 20 mins early. Stop talking at people you sound dumb and like you are sitting behind a comfy desk trying to make it all seem ok.

Nope I’m a parent like you with common sense. Are you talking about last year because of course they didn’t have a full fleet of metal detectors, they were testing it out. Highly doubt it took your son an hour to get through.

6 netal detectors for approximately 3000 students is nowhere near a "full fleet" of metal detectors.

1 metal detector for 500 students.

25 minutes to get through the metal detector and butts in the chair in class.

Every student must empty their backpacks and open their purses.

To achieve this with the handful of metal detectors FCPS hired, that comes to 20 students per minute required to get all 3000 students through the door and in their seats by the bell at 8:10 when the classrooms all close the doors and go on full lockdown.

Please explain how the math works for this "full fleet" of 6 metal detectors.

[Anonymous]

It is supposed to rain next week...

[Anonymous]

I teach in a trailer. No metal detectors to get to my class. I was told I need to tell anyone who gets to my room early to go in the main building, through the detector, and come back.

Nope.

What a joke.

[Anonymous]

They only put 6 metal detectors in at the supersized schools?

I think Gatehouse staff shoyd be assigned to man these in the morning before theie regular workday. A few can stand outside in the rain to
monitor the thousands of students in line outside.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Westfield had huge delays in spring when they tried this AND it was when all the seniors were off campus.

They had two doors/two screeners total. Kids were an hour late to class every day.

The buses held kids on the bus until the pre-screening let-off time then they all got off at once and got in line. It made no sense.

The one police officer who directs the traffic for the whole school was pulled to assist.

I can't imagine what the lines will
Look like with 2700+ kids and two screeners.

PWC school have much lower populations and a lot more screeners.0

DD goes to Westfield. She said the screening added a couple of minutes to her delay. I dropped her off daily, and there were a couple of days maybe where the lines were long. The traffic cop wasn't pulled off to assist more than a handful of times. If your kid is telling you that the security screening made them an hour late to class, you need to have a chat with them about that.

This is false. unless you are dropping her ridiculously early to be number one in line.

Different poster and this is not false. People were not constantly late by an hour. Stop spreading misinformation. If anything, it was a couple of minutes (and only those that always waited til the very end to show up to school).

[Anonymous]

Every new school year, school bus operation is problematic in the first several weeks.This may cause more challenges for students to arrive the checkpoints early enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Westfield had huge delays in spring when they tried this AND it was when all the seniors were off campus.

They had two doors/two screeners total. Kids were an hour late to class every day.

The buses held kids on the bus until the pre-screening let-off time then they all got off at once and got in line. It made no sense.

The one police officer who directs the traffic for the whole school was pulled to assist.

I can't imagine what the lines will
Look like with 2700+ kids and two screeners.

PWC school have much lower populations and a lot more screeners.0

DD goes to Westfield. She said the screening added a couple of minutes to her delay. I dropped her off daily, and there were a couple of days maybe where the lines were long. The traffic cop wasn't pulled off to assist more than a handful of times. If your kid is telling you that the security screening made them an hour late to class, you need to have a chat with them about that.

This is false. unless you are dropping her ridiculously early to be number one in line.

Different poster and this is not false. People were not constantly late by an hour. Stop spreading misinformation. If anything, it was a couple of minutes (and only those that always waited til the very end to show up to school).

Multiple Westfield parents have disagreed with you. You are the only person posting repeatedly that everything was Just Fine for your kid, who somehow breezed through the lines that were so long, kids from other schools were sharing them. My kids go to Herndon and showed me pics of Westfield lines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every new school year, school bus operation is problematic in the first several weeks.This may cause more challenges for students to arrive the checkpoints early enough.

One of the many issues last year was the buses continued to hold kids on the buses until the official time they were allowed to "get off". So 20+ bus loads of kids were all lining up at the exact same time. They need to let kids into the building as the buses arrive, whether its before 7:40 on the dot or not.

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Its kind of amazing to me that one poster keeps claiming over and over that her "daughter" bopped right thru the security lines when the crazy lines at Westfield were all over snapchat and group texts and multiple Westfield parents posted about them last year. I saw them last spring b/c my dd's teammate goes there and was appalled that FCPS let that continue day after day.

Yet somehow this one person's daughter didn't see or experience any lines....is she posting from Gatehouse.

[Anonymous]

Clearly that one mom is a Gatehouse employee posing as a parent.

Think about it for one sec. It completely defies logic that 2000+ students could possibly be screened by only 2 metal detectors in 15 minutes. It is simply not humanly possible.

[Anonymous]

2200 students (took out the seniors since apparently they weren't there.)

1100 students per detector in 20 minutes. Each kid would have to go through in less than a second. With taking all the metal objects out of their bag and the screeners investigating each ding.

Come on now.

[Anonymous]

These are not the “metal detectors” you think of (at ACPS so have had them for a while). They actually do cause a delay at first. What I suspect, but I think you will never find this written, is that the AI of these systems engage in profiling race, nationality, etc. when they are first in use, the student ID is scanned. I then suspect over time the system through AI builds up profiles of who is more likely to have a weapon based on the demographic info on the IDs. So the system then learns what type of person with metal is more problematic. As the profile is built, the process gets quicker.

[Anonymous]

This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Which school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also teachers who have IPR or Plan period first class are being assigned metal detector monitoring. They are less than thrilled.

Parents this is why your child's teacher is exhausted and done with the year before it's even started. This is not respect of contract-teachers need planning time and not to be working all night. They have families. Stop getting on teachers and start getting on administrators who do things like this. It's not OK!!!