Vance on H1B
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Anonymous
of course not, he's not a nationalist he's at best a civic nationalist |
Anonymous
because its good business |
Anonymous
DP, how can you compete against other businesses if they're doing it? |
Anonymous
That was Facebook's argument: https://www.hrdive.com/news/ignorance-is-not-going-to-be-an-excuse-lessons-from-facebooks-hiring-sc/609986/ |
Anonymous
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Repeal H1B now.
Amazon CEO Andy Jassy said in June that there would “be fewer people doing some of the jobs that the technology actually starts to automate.” However, Jassy did not mention another factor — the employment data indicate that Amazon has led corporate America in spurning U.S. workers in favor of foreign-born alternatives. The company’s main operating arm submitted 31,817 Labor Condition Applications for H-1B, H-1B1, and E-3 visas in the second quarter of fiscal 2025, according to data published by the Labor Department’s Office of Foreign Labor Certification. The number grows higher — to 40,757 — if one accounts for Amazon Web Services, the company’s cloud-management division. https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/5443667-h-1bs-are-wreaking-havoc-on-american-workers/ They recently came under fire from Vice President JD Vance. Alluding to Microsoft’s announcement of layoffs weeks earlier, Vance said at an event, “You see some Big Tech companies where they’ll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they’ll apply for a bunch of overseas visas.” He added that he “just found out” and had “not yet had that conversation with Microsoft.” Although these foreign workers are, in theory, intended to fill “high-skill” roles, the data tell a different story. According to the Labor Department, 82 percent of Microsoft’s H-1B applications for 2025 have been for positions the department classifies as Level I or II — entry or mid-level roles paid at or below the 34th wage percentile. To put that in simpler terms: Microsoft is paying 82 percent of its foreign workers less than the prevailing market rate for their positions. |
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Those of us who went through the H-1B expansion battle in 1998 know well that industry does not have good faith when it comes to H-1B visas. Now that the H-1B visa has again come to the attention of the public, let me take this opportunity to describe how things work in Washington.
What Americans fail to appreciate is that controlling the text of legislation is the key to controlling Washington. When lobbyists can write the bills, they can control the government. Here, lobbyists are assisted by the American media. The media is so lazy that they rarely actually read bills. A lobbyist can count on the media's research ending at a congressman's claims in a press release. If a bill does something else, the media will never notice. H-1B provides an excellent example of rule by bill text. Here's a little history. The H-1B program was created in 1990. By 1994 the first large-scale replacements of Americans by H-1B workers were taking place. While it was technically illegal for an employer to replace an American workers with an H-1B worker, there was a big (and probably unintentional when created) loophole. The expectation in the legislative history was that companies would only hire H-1B workers when Americans were not available. What Congress did not anticipate was that the H-1B program created the business of importing H-1B workers. Companies would import H-1B workers in bulk and subcontract them out to other companies. When AIG did the first large-scale replacement of Americans with H-1B workers, they used an H-1B importer called Syntel to supply the workers. AIG could then claim they did not apply for any H-1B visas. Syntel could say they did not fire any Americans. By 1998, industry was seeking an expansion of the H-1B program. The House Judiciary Committee produced a bill that expanded the H-1B visa program but added protections for American workers, including closing the replacement loophole. But a funny thing happened along the way to the House floor. Here is the text of the bill when it left the House Judiciary committee, and here is the text of the bill when it reached the house floor. Industry leaders screamed they would rather have no H-1B expansion than lose the ability to replace Americans with H-1B workers. When big money talks, Congress listens. The Republican leadership arranged for the substitution of a lobbyist-written "compromise" bill that eventually became law. If you compare the two bills, the first thing you should notice is that the lobbyist-written version of the bill is 23 pages longer than the original. The main offending provision in the original bill can be found on p. 3 in "SEC. 3. PROTECTION AGAINST DISPLACEMENT OF UNITED STATES WORKERS." That section contains a provision that prohibited replacing an American with an H-1B worker "obtained by contract, employee leasing, temporary help agreement, or other similar means." (p. 4, lines 2–4) It would have closed the loophole in the law (that still exists) allowing employers to replace Americans with H-1B workers. This demonstrates that Congress was clearly aware of the mechanism employers were using to replace Americans with H-1B workers. If you go the version that reached the full house you find on p. 4, "SEC. 102. PROTECTION AGAINST DISPLACEMENT OF UNITED STATES WORKERS IN CASE OF H–1B DEPENDENT EMPLOYERS". The "protections" have grown from 4 pages to in the original to 10 pages in the lobbyist version – but the ban on replacing Americans with H-1B workers obtained through third-parties has disappeared. The "protections" in the lobbyist-written version are written in a convoluted manner and are carefully crafted to ensure that they protect no one. Here's one for President Obama: the original bill (p. 7) contained a new requirement that employers actually have to look for Americans before hiring H-1B workers. That magically disappeared in the lobbyist-written version. There is no requirement that employers hire Americans before H-1B workers. There are a number of things the public should take away from this: 1. The firing of Americans and replacement by H-1B workers is in the law because of deliberate, affirmative action of lobbyists and lawmakers. 2. Long bills are the lobbyists' tool. "More regulation" means "worse regulation". 3. When you studied civics in school you probably learned that a law gets created using a process like the one shown in this video. You probably never heard of the process of lobbyists hijacking bills after they come out of committee and substituting their own text. Such is the state of corruption in Washington today. This video gives a better explanation of how things work now. H-1B is, quite simply, the best legislation money can buy. Despite repeated calls by government audits to reform that H-1B program, no reform has been enacted. For 22 years, lobbyists have maintained ironclad control over the H-1B statute text. Keep in mind that H-1B is just one small piece of legislation. This buying and selling of the law takes place in all types of legislation. That's why we have gone from a Glass-Steagall of under 40 pages (that kept the financial markets stable for decades) to the 848 pages of Dodd-Frank "reform" of today. Big bills mean big mischief and big lobbying money. You have to read the text of the bills to see how the corruption takes place. |
Anonymous
I agree. I wasn't aware of this when it was going on, I didn't go into tech in 1997 as an undergraduate to navigate the international employment scene. It is so frustrating that our government goes to such lengths to keep this quiet and is working against my interest. They have rules that when they test the labor markets to set the wages or prove there are no skilled labor, they can't tell you that you aren't actually applying for a real job. I mean so many agencies are involved in keeping this quiet. Department of Labor, Department of Homeland Services, United States Immigration Services. Even the education and research agencies. NSF were some of the first to request H-1b all the Academic institutions in science and technology are dominated by H-1b. NIH has some of the worst PERM application success rates. These are the agencies that are supposed to making sure that we are trained and that our skills match what the industry requires, but they are actually part of the problem. This idea that companies are entitled to H-1b applicants permeates our government. There Biden was saying H-1b could work half time in non-for-profits that are only related to science. Trying to make AI a Schedule A occupation so that they don't have to test the market to get green cards. I feel like now that American skilled labor is starting to get a handle on what the game is and how we have to keep applying for these jobs that they hide in weird places "immigrationglobal". See H-1b sabotage. https://www.financialexpress.com/business/investing-abroad-big-crisis-for-indian-h-1bs-viral-post-red-flags-perm-sabotage-can-spark-layoffs-3948201/ We will some changes, but I suspect we probably won't like them either. It is refreshing for a legislator to just come out and say it. Thank you Vance! |
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The Great Visa Scam
They told us H-1B was about “the best and brightest.” About saving companies money. About “innovation.” Lies. Here’s what’s really happening: • A Walmart VP just got fired in a kickback scandal tied to contractors. Word is 1,200 H-1B-heavy workers from a subcontractor were axed overnight. • Capital One is dissolving entire H-1B divisions. Not because they suddenly grew a conscience. Because they internally admitted the “savings” were fake. • The so-called body shops exist to skim money off abused visa workers, kick contracts back to insiders, and make sure only more H-1Bs get hired so the racket never ends. This isn’t about saving money. It’s about stealing it. It’s not about talent. It’s about kickbacks. It’s not about “global competitiveness.” It’s about a massive corporate money-laundering scheme. Lobbyists are certainly in the chain of kickbacks to award more contracts to these firms. Meanwhile, Americans are locked out of good jobs while these companies bleed billions into corruption pipelines run through offshore recruiters and insider networks. And when it blows up? They quietly fire a VP, dissolve a department, and hope nobody notices. We notice. This system isn’t efficient. It’s corrupt. It’s abusive. And it’s collapsing in plain sight. |
Anonymous
WalMart -> https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/h-1b-workers-targeted-as-walmart-lays-off-1500-employees-maga-blames-it-on-indian-cto/3859050/ |
Anonymous
For over two decades, I have been a highly skilled software developer and a proud Navy veteran. Yet, despite my qualifications and dedication, the opportunities for engaging work in my field have been scarce, leaving me underemployed for the past 22 years. This personal struggle is not isolated; it reflects a nationwide crisis impacting countless American workers. Since the 1970s, the shifting policies endorsed by Congress and the Senate have paved the way for businesses to send many of our best-paying jobs overseas, decimating communities and families in the process. This trend only intensified in 1990 when a significant influx of nonimmigrant guest workers arrived in the U.S. to fill positions in industries where skilled American workers were available. Shockingly, these workers make up just 20% of the workforce yet have often been prioritized over qualified American professionals. The implications for the STEM industry, particularly, have been profound. Research has shown that the implementation of a biased H-1B visa program has depressed wages and eliminated potential job opportunities for countless talented individuals within our borders. According to a National Bureau of Economic Research study, this program results in a minimum wage suppression of 5–10% for U.S. tech workers. We must urgently push for reforms that prioritize our talented American workforce while ensuring businesses can thrive. This includes ending the abuse of H-1B visas, ensuring that these visas are only granted where there is a genuine shortage of skills that cannot be filled locally, and improving oversight to prevent companies from misusing the program to cut costs at the expense of American jobs. By signing this petition, you're supporting a crucial mission to rebuild our economy by preserving and prioritizing American jobs. Let's call on our government to act decisively and reform the H-1B visa policies to protect and invest in our own workforce. These changes are not just about protecting current jobs but about securing a stable economic future for generations to come. Unite with us to advocate for fairness, opportunity, and stability in the American job market. Your signature matters. https://chng.it/yFFWKjQqmw |
Anonymous
LOL. Every time I call I get someone from India. Also, Vance lies. My goodness, it's like the felon declaring we need e-verify while fewer than half his companies were in compliance. This is purely bread and circuses on Vance's part. Get the mob angry with lies and fake facts, while you do what you want. |
Anonymous
LOL. It's all about greedy capitalists, not policies. Please. Your petition will go nowhere. |
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Americans are getting the voice that they deserved all along.
Dear Accenture Recruiting Team, I am writing to address my recent rejection for the R00279435 Solution Architecture Manager position at Accenture. As a U.S. born citizen with the required qualifications and experience, I am concerned that Accenture may be prioritizing H-1B visa holders over qualified U.S. workers, despite my suitability for the role. Accenture’s high reliance on H-1B workers—raises serious concerns about the fairness of your hiring practices. This may violate federal laws prohibiting discrimination based on citizenship status or national origin. Additionally, the U.S. Department of Justice has launched a new initiative on August 29 to investigate companies engaging in such discriminatory hiring practices, and I will be reporting this matter to them for further review. https://www.justice.gov/crt/reporting-unfair-visa-related-employment-practices |
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Anonymous
So this youtube influencer thinks he knows the tech industry better than you know software engineers. Whoever posted this can't even read weblog thread or reason. The man said, there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese/Indian tech people. They'll just take the jobs overseas. They just send them overseas instead of bringing them here. That is great! Time to celebrate. People keep making this argument, they never explain. Why we should care if an Indian worker works in India or here. I can't think of a reason I would want them working here. Taxes? eh not really. People consume as much as they pay. It's also funny that the Capitalists get along so well with the Chinese(state controlled businesses) and Indian regulations. Why can't they follow are laws? |