Wake Forest and how it's viewed, especially in NC

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Anonymous wrote:There are several branches of the university-Wilmington, Greensboro, Asheville, and Chapel Hill. How’s the Belichick hire working out for the branch in Chapel Hill.


This sounds clever to someone oos, but it isn’t a stigma here. It’s just Carolina or UNC. No one cares.
Anonymous
Seems like way too many kids from single Carolina high schools go to UNC. Wonder about in-state selectivity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seems like way too many kids from single Carolina high schools go to UNC. Wonder about in-state selectivity.


Not true, rumored to be top whatever percent. They spread the wealth and elite schools where all are qualified lose. Many schools are huge in some areas and most that get in go so the numbers sound large.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:New State hoops coach probably can count on 2 wins against that team from Chapel Hill.


Except I believe they’re only playing each other once next year unless they met in the tournament. Does sound like you’re in the Wolfpack if you didn’t know this news that the ACC redid the basketball schedule. Came out about a week ago.
Anonymous
Sounds like your from UNC at Chapel Hill.
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Anonymous wrote:Wake is the Tulane of North Carolina.

SMU is the Emory of Texas.


SMU and Emory are both equal academically the socially, their vibes are very different. Emory draws more from a liberal multicultural Northeast crowd while SMU skews more wealthy, conservative, traditional.

The delusion is out of this world. Rice is the only equivalent school in Texas. SMU has no standing on the world stage, and
What about SMU academically makes them any way close to academically equivalent?
Quick reminder
SMU is ranked 91
Peer reputation of 3.2
SAT-1410

Emory-24
PR-4.2
SAT-1510



The delusion are posters using a failed magazine to gauge a college's worth. SMU and Emory are much closer than eg, Emory and Rice.

Closer on what way, clearly not academically?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They spread the wealth and elite schools where all are qualified lose. Many schools are huge in some areas and most that get in go so the numbers sound large.


This is true (or at least it was back when I was looking at UNC). As such, there's a pretty significant variety in the quality of students attending UNC. It's comparatively easier to get into Chapel Hill from say, Richmond or Perquimans County (poor, rural, lower stats) than it is from say, Forsyth or Wake County (wealthier, more urban, higher stats). That's central to the mission of the public college: to educate people from across the state. So that 41% in-state admissions rate doesn't tell the whole story; it's lower in some areas of the state and higher in others.

Compare that to Wake Forest, which doesn't face those restrictions/obligations. A typical Wake class is going to have kids that are almost all very smart but not brilliant, most will come from upper middle class to wealthy homes from all over the country (although mostly from the South and Northeast). Class sizes will be smaller, dorms nicer, campus better maintained.

But full pay COA is $95k at Wake versus $28k at Carolina. It's no wonder many families choose UNC.

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Anonymous wrote:Wake is the Tulane of North Carolina.

SMU is the Emory of Texas.


SMU and Emory are both equal academically the socially, their vibes are very different. Emory draws more from a liberal multicultural Northeast crowd while SMU skews more wealthy, conservative, traditional.

The delusion is out of this world. Rice is the only equivalent school in Texas. SMU has no standing on the world stage, and
What about SMU academically makes them any way close to academically equivalent?
Quick reminder
SMU is ranked 91
Peer reputation of 3.2
SAT-1410

Emory-24
PR-4.2
SAT-1510



The delusion are posters using a failed magazine to gauge a college's worth. SMU and Emory are much closer than eg, Emory and Rice.

You're gaslighting. That doesn't make any sense. 18 and 24 are very close. 24 and 91 are not. Rice and Emory have similar SAT scores as well 1530 vs 1510 respectively. I don't understand why you guys have this incessant need to elevate mediocre schools. Not every school can be elite.
Anonymous
That's so interesting how opinion swung in 15 years or so! I'm also from Winston and I did graduate from Wake almost 30 years ago (wow). I think it definitely, at that time, was considered more academic than UNC. I was a morehead finalist at UNC. I also received merit $$ at Wake (in fact, a specific scholarship for students from NC). But they are two totally different schools - size, culture, student body. But not to tear down the academic ability of students who got into UNC - you had to be in the top of your class to get in there and it was quite competitive.

I know during my time at Wake the Greek % at Wake went way up. In fact, I probably would not have applied/gone based on the Greek % swing from the time I was in high school till I graduated - I was independent and my closest friends were, too. And the $tution $$ for Wake really grew even while I was there and now is crazy, so I probably would not have been able to go a few years later - very middle/working class family.

It is funny b/c I get the "rich kid" Wake vibe from DCUM, but don't know as much about how it is perceived locally to WS now. One of my kids is interested in Wake just for his sport.



Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Winston-Salem. I agree with the poster who said it is generally viewed as behind UNC and Duke academically (significantly so in the case of Duke, slightly so in the case of UNC). I remember a number of kids in my graduating class who went to Wake who didn’t get into UNC. Not to say it didn’t happen, but I don’t recall anyone going to UNC after not getting into Wake. Most years there were also a few elite kids (HYPS-competitive) from my school or Winston who would go to UNC on Morehead or Robertson scholarships, whereas I don’t ever recall those kinds of kids going to Wake. All of that added up to it being viewed as slightly below UNC academically as I recall (whether fairly or not). Sort of a school for kids who had good grades, but also didn’t exactly blow you away in terms of how smart they were.

That said, I also agree that it was viewed as ahead of every other school in NC with the possible exception of Davidson. Davidson was very much a peer school, and I recall a LOT of kids whose top two choices were Wake and Davidson. A lot of those same kids would apply to Elon as a back-up option. But basically no one who got into Wake or Davidson picked Elon.

The only other thing I’d add is that, at least at the time (15 or so years ago), it definitely had the reputation—like Duke—as being heavy on kids from the Northeast, which wasn’t always viewed as positive thing within NC…

Most people I know who went there really liked it. But, more so than with a lot of other schools, it seemed to have a clear “type” — from wealthy families, gung-ho about Greek life, reasonably smart but not especially nerdy/intellectual. Basically everyone I know who went there fit that “type,” so it wasn’t a surprise that they ended up liking it. (And to be clear, I don’t mean any of the pejoratively — some of those kids were good friends, and I had some fun weekends at Wake with them).

It’s a nice little campus, but kind of cloistered and not really integrated into Winston very well. And Winston isn’t much of a fun college town.

There’s ACC sports (some of which are quite successful), but no one would mistake the atmosphere for an SEC school (or even UNC or NC State).

Hope that’s helpful.
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Anonymous wrote:Wake is the Tulane of North Carolina.

SMU is the Emory of Texas.


SMU and Emory are both equal academically the socially, their vibes are very different. Emory draws more from a liberal multicultural Northeast crowd while SMU skews more wealthy, conservative, traditional.

The delusion is out of this world. Rice is the only equivalent school in Texas. SMU has no standing on the world stage, and
What about SMU academically makes them any way close to academically equivalent?
Quick reminder
SMU is ranked 91
Peer reputation of 3.2
SAT-1410

Emory-24
PR-4.2
SAT-1510



The delusion are posters using a failed magazine to gauge a college's worth. SMU and Emory are much closer than eg, Emory and Rice.

You're gaslighting. That doesn't make any sense. 18 and 24 are very close. 24 and 91 are not. Rice and Emory have similar SAT scores as well 1530 vs 1510 respectively. I don't understand why you guys have this incessant need to elevate mediocre schools. Not every school can be elite.

+1, but pp might mean culturally, which I still wouldn't agree with. Rice and Emory have quirky student bodies, Emory a bit wealthier. But SMU grads have a very big chip on their shoulder (wealth will do that) so the delusions of grandeur makes sense. Rice does name Emory as a peer in the DOE survey and both have a 4.2 reputation score on US news. SMU is closer to Howard maybe Mercer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: Sounds like your from UNC at Chapel Hill.


You still can’t spell. SMH
Anonymous
Duke is the top private university in NC
Chapel Hill the top public
Davidson the top private liberal arts

Wake ranks somewhere below all three, but above Elon etc

(State is where you go for engineering)
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Anonymous wrote:Wake is the Tulane of North Carolina.

SMU is the Emory of Texas.


SMU and Emory are both equal academically the socially, their vibes are very different. Emory draws more from a liberal multicultural Northeast crowd while SMU skews more wealthy, conservative, traditional.

Nothing about SMU signals class or prestige. Just a bunch of gauche nepo babies. Not in the stratosphere of any top school.
Anonymous
NC has a stare law requiring that at least 80% of UNC's freshman class are from within the state.
Anonymous
The only student I know who went to Wake treated college as “finishing school”. Fits all the stereotypes mentioned so far: WASP, Southern, preppy, smart and great student but not intellectual, wealthy but not at all flashy about it, Greek life essential, great social skills
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