Yale athletes discuss their SAT/ACT scores.

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Anonymous wrote:a couple of MIT soccer recruits from our HS who werent' even in top 10% of class. helps a lot if you're a girl.

The number of kids who can open with A 750Mis the first hurdle. The 750M and good enough to play is a fairly high hurdle in many sports. In others like girls volleyball the pool gets a bit bigger. MIT is a perennial girls volleyball power along with JHU.

according to CDS,

2.4% of MIT admits submitting an ACT (31%) have a ACT MATH score of 24-29.
4.8% of MIT admits submitting an ACT have a ACT Science score of 24-29.

you guys act like they're never taking these kids. they are.

and they took a lot more during test optional cycles which is what these Yale recruits are from.

One of us has a MIT recruited athlete. The other person is you. I can't explain the 2.4% with an ACT of 24-29 but I would guess that those scores were ultimately replaced with higher SAT Math scores since 100% of the mat SAT scores were above 700. MIT will not accept someone that they do not believe can handle the Math.

you mean 100% of kids who submitted an SAT. which is 83% now ...

I wouldnt get too worked up about 100% when almost 1 out of every 5 students dont submit that at all.

I believe MIT requires that all applicants submit scores now. My sense is that not all student-athletes score a 35+, but I suppose I could be wrong.

These stats are most recent and are from a test required year. 1 in 5 don’t submit a SAT. They may submit an SCT and 5% have an ACT, in science, under 30. 2.5% have an ACT in math under 30.

What are you saying? That in a test-required year, some still aren’t submitting test scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:a couple of MIT soccer recruits from our HS who werent' even in top 10% of class. helps a lot if you're a girl.

The number of kids who can open with A 750Mis the first hurdle. The 750M and good enough to play is a fairly high hurdle in many sports. In others like girls volleyball the pool gets a bit bigger. MIT is a perennial girls volleyball power along with JHU.

according to CDS,

2.4% of MIT admits submitting an ACT (31%) have a ACT MATH score of 24-29.
4.8% of MIT admits submitting an ACT have a ACT Science score of 24-29.

you guys act like they're never taking these kids. they are.

and they took a lot more during test optional cycles which is what these Yale recruits are from.

One of us has a MIT recruited athlete. The other person is you. I can't explain the 2.4% with an ACT of 24-29 but I would guess that those scores were ultimately replaced with higher SAT Math scores since 100% of the mat SAT scores were above 700. MIT will not accept someone that they do not believe can handle the Math.

There is obviously a lot of overlap looking at the submission percentages. It is quite likely that a poor ACT score ended up as irrelevant because of a superior SAT score given that 100% of the SAT pool is 700 or above and MIT isn't accepting anyone that they feel cannot handle the Math. Anyone with a 24-29 ACT score for math would have had to provide alternative confimatory information regarding Math skills. Other schools maybe not but at MIT most definitely.


you mean 100% of kids who submitted an SAT. which is 83% now ...

I wouldnt get too worked up about 100% when almost 1 out of every 5 students dont submit that at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a couple of MIT soccer recruits from our HS who werent' even in top 10% of class. helps a lot if you're a girl.

The number of kids who can open with A 750Mis the first hurdle. The 750M and good enough to play is a fairly high hurdle in many sports. In others like girls volleyball the pool gets a bit bigger. MIT is a perennial girls volleyball power along with JHU.

according to CDS,

2.4% of MIT admits submitting an ACT (31%) have a ACT MATH score of 24-29.
4.8% of MIT admits submitting an ACT have a ACT Science score of 24-29.

you guys act like they're never taking these kids. they are.

and they took a lot more during test optional cycles which is what these Yale recruits are from.

One of us has a MIT recruited athlete. The other person is you. I can't explain the 2.4% with an ACT of 24-29 but I would guess that those scores were ultimately replaced with higher SAT Math scores since 100% of the mat SAT scores were above 700. MIT will not accept someone that they do not believe can handle the Math.

you mean 100% of kids who submitted an SAT. which is 83% now ...

I wouldnt get too worked up about 100% when almost 1 out of every 5 students dont submit that at all.

I believe MIT requires that all applicants submit scores now. My sense is that not all student-athletes score a 35+, but I suppose I could be wrong.

These stats are most recent and are from a test required year. 1 in 5 don’t submit a SAT. They may submit an SCT and 5% have an ACT, in science, under 30. 2.5% have an ACT in math under 30.

There is obviously a lot of overlap looking at the submission percentages. It is quite likely that a poor ACT score ended up as irrelevant because of a superior SAT score given that 100% of the SAT pool is 700 or above and MIT isn't accepting anyone that they feel cannot handle the Math. Anyone with a 24-29 ACT score for math would have had to provide alternative confimatory information regarding Math skills. Other schools maybe not but at MIT most definitely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:a couple of MIT soccer recruits from our HS who werent' even in top 10% of class. helps a lot if you're a girl.

The number of kids who can open with A 750Mis the first hurdle. The 750M and good enough to play is a fairly high hurdle in many sports. In others like girls volleyball the pool gets a bit bigger. MIT is a perennial girls volleyball power along with JHU.

according to CDS,

2.4% of MIT admits submitting an ACT (31%) have a ACT MATH score of 24-29.
4.8% of MIT admits submitting an ACT have a ACT Science score of 24-29.

you guys act like they're never taking these kids. they are.

and they took a lot more during test optional cycles which is what these Yale recruits are from.

One of us has a MIT recruited athlete. The other person is you. I can't explain the 2.4% with an ACT of 24-29 but I would guess that those scores were ultimately replaced with higher SAT Math scores since 100% of the mat SAT scores were above 700. MIT will not accept someone that they do not believe can handle the Math.

you mean 100% of kids who submitted an SAT. which is 83% now ...

I wouldnt get too worked up about 100% when almost 1 out of every 5 students dont submit that at all.

I believe MIT requires that all applicants submit scores now. My sense is that not all student-athletes score a 35+, but I suppose I could be wrong.

These stats are most recent and are from a test required year. 1 in 5 don’t submit a SAT. They may submit an SCT and 5% have an ACT, in science, under 30. 2.5% have an ACT in math under 30.

There is obviously a lot of overlap looking at the submission percentages. It is quite likely that a poor ACT score ended up as irrelevant because of a superior SAT score given that 100% of the SAT pool is 700 or above and MIT isn't accepting anyone that they feel cannot handle the Math. Anyone with a 24-29 ACT score for math would have had to provide alternative confimatory information regarding Math skills. Other schools maybe not but at MIT most definitely.

Nobody sends their 25 ACT if they have a better SAT. Nobody.

Also, it’s what they got on the test. The end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a couple of MIT soccer recruits from our HS who werent' even in top 10% of class. helps a lot if you're a girl.

The number of kids who can open with A 750Mis the first hurdle. The 750M and good enough to play is a fairly high hurdle in many sports. In others like girls volleyball the pool gets a bit bigger. MIT is a perennial girls volleyball power along with JHU.

according to CDS,

2.4% of MIT admits submitting an ACT (31%) have a ACT MATH score of 24-29.
4.8% of MIT admits submitting an ACT have a ACT Science score of 24-29.

you guys act like they're never taking these kids. they are.

and they took a lot more during test optional cycles which is what these Yale recruits are from.

One of us has a MIT recruited athlete. The other person is you. I can't explain the 2.4% with an ACT of 24-29 but I would guess that those scores were ultimately replaced with higher SAT Math scores since 100% of the mat SAT scores were above 700. MIT will not accept someone that they do not believe can handle the Math.

you mean 100% of kids who submitted an SAT. which is 83% now ...

I wouldnt get too worked up about 100% when almost 1 out of every 5 students dont submit that at all.

I believe MIT requires that all applicants submit scores now. My sense is that not all student-athletes score a 35+, but I suppose I could be wrong.

These stats are most recent and are from a test required year. 1 in 5 don’t submit a SAT. They may submit an SCT and 5% have an ACT, in science, under 30. 2.5% have an ACT in math under 30.

There is obviously a lot of overlap looking at the submission percentages. It is quite likely that a poor ACT score ended up as irrelevant because of a superior SAT score given that 100% of the SAT pool is 700 or above and MIT isn't accepting anyone that they feel cannot handle the Math. Anyone with a 24-29 ACT score for math would have had to provide alternative confimatory information regarding Math skills. Other schools maybe not but at MIT most definitely.

Nobody sends their 25 ACT if they have a better SAT. Nobody.

Also, it’s what they got on the test. The end.

They do, because MIT requires reporting all scores for all tests. Game set match.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think colleges would all be better off if we kept a few revenue generating and profile raising sports, those might be the dirty secret admissions like donor class, and moved on.

So many rich kids getting into Princeton for sailing or water polo. It adds nothing. It's dumb. These kids bring nothing special to the table.The campus would be better off w more kids who have worked jobs or been the yearbook editor and gotten a 1550

I put this to my DD at Yale and she said she’d rather have dinner with a champion sailor than yet another 1550 yearbook editor

"yet another"? my kid is at Princeton and says there are no newspaper/yearbook kids there. we were talking about this over Christmas. high schools have moved to a million niche journals that come out once every three years so every kid is a founding editor to the journal of molecular sciences or international relations (one issue ever)

Ok insert “founding editor of whatever”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a couple of MIT soccer recruits from our HS who werent' even in top 10% of class. helps a lot if you're a girl.

The number of kids who can open with A 750Mis the first hurdle. The 750M and good enough to play is a fairly high hurdle in many sports. In others like girls volleyball the pool gets a bit bigger. MIT is a perennial girls volleyball power along with JHU.

according to CDS,

2.4% of MIT admits submitting an ACT (31%) have a ACT MATH score of 24-29.
4.8% of MIT admits submitting an ACT have a ACT Science score of 24-29.

you guys act like they're never taking these kids. they are.

and they took a lot more during test optional cycles which is what these Yale recruits are from.

One of us has a MIT recruited athlete. The other person is you. I can't explain the 2.4% with an ACT of 24-29 but I would guess that those scores were ultimately replaced with higher SAT Math scores since 100% of the mat SAT scores were above 700. MIT will not accept someone that they do not believe can handle the Math.

you mean 100% of kids who submitted an SAT. which is 83% now ...

I wouldnt get too worked up about 100% when almost 1 out of every 5 students dont submit that at all.

I believe MIT requires that all applicants submit scores now. My sense is that not all student-athletes score a 35+, but I suppose I could be wrong.

These stats are most recent and are from a test required year. 1 in 5 don’t submit a SAT. They may submit an SCT and 5% have an ACT, in science, under 30. 2.5% have an ACT in math under 30.

There is obviously a lot of overlap looking at the submission percentages. It is quite likely that a poor ACT score ended up as irrelevant because of a superior SAT score given that 100% of the SAT pool is 700 or above and MIT isn't accepting anyone that they feel cannot handle the Math. Anyone with a 24-29 ACT score for math would have had to provide alternative confimatory information regarding Math skills. Other schools maybe not but at MIT most definitely.

Nobody sends their 25 ACT if they have a better SAT. Nobody.

Also, it’s what they got on the test. The end.

They do, because MIT requires reporting all scores for all tests. Game set match.

Nobody is saying a sub30 act is their best score, but it was a score they earned

[Anonymous]

Is anyone aware of an Ivy or Patriot league football showcase/combine or camps? As opposed to going to individual camps or visits at each school, which requires more travel? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone aware of an Ivy or Patriot league football showcase/combine or camps? As opposed to going to individual camps or visits at each school, which requires more travel? Thanks in advance.

I think that you might be able to catch a a random Ivy or Patriot team at a showcase, but I'm unaware of specific showcase like you are asking about. Looks like you have lots of driving this summer.

[Anonymous]

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What do yall think?

My son was invited to Yale for an official visit with the rowing team last fall. His 2k time was just shy of recruitable and he was captain/MVP, BUT they wanted them because of his academics. He had a 1560 SAT, 4.0, 4.6 weighted with 14 APs (8 fives on the tests he had taken at the time) and was a merit scholar. The dirty secret is that the teams have an academic index (AI) and they have to maintain it. So what happens is they can let in kids with lower stats, but they have to be balanced by academic athletes. This was the case for my son, but after the visit realized that he had no interest in rowing at the D1 level (20 hour a week+ commitment and he was honestly worried about prioritizing it over academics).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjMrRUM2/

What do yall think?

My son was invited to Yale for an official visit with the rowing team last fall. His 2k time was just shy of recruitable and he was captain/MVP, BUT they wanted them because of his academics. He had a 1560 SAT, 4.0, 4.6 weighted with 14 APs (8 fives on the tests he had taken at the time) and was a merit scholar. The dirty secret is that the teams have an academic index (AI) and they have to maintain it. So what happens is they can let in kids with lower stats, but they have to be balanced by academic athletes. This was the case for my son, but after the visit realized that he had no interest in rowing at the D1 level (20 hour a week+ commitment and he was honestly worried about prioritizing it over academics).

Yes - they are balancing kids who have SAT's in the 1000 level. I know a few.

[Anonymous]

Then there is the unicorn who is the kid with the top grades and scores who is also a star athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then there is the unicorn who is the kid with the top grades and scores who is also a star athlete.

Yep.

I have one of those and the results are what one might expect.

[Anonymous]

Ha! My kid got a 29 in math the first time he took the ACT. Even though he had 5s on both AP Calc exams, As honors geo, etc

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then there is the unicorn who is the kid with the top grades and scores who is also a star athlete.

Yep.

I have one of those and the results are what one might expect.

University of Illinois?