60% of girls say they want college, only 46% of boys

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for people to talk about how teaching has changed to be more advantageous to girls.

Less recess.

+2 Also, expectations to sit still and no talking for longer periods of time during the day.

Nope. Not buying it. I still think it's the lack of discipline. You let your babies get away with everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for people to talk about how teaching has changed to be more advantageous to girls.

Less recess.

+2 Also, expectations to sit still and no talking for longer periods of time during the day.

So literally it's just that your boys need exercise that you're not providing before and after school and need to learn how to sit quietly, it has nothing to do with the actual academics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for people to talk about how teaching has changed to be more advantageous to girls.

Less recess.

+2 Also, expectations to sit still and no talking for longer periods of time during the day.

Nope. Not buying it. I still think it's the lack of discipline. You let your babies get away with everything.

I’m not buying that all of a sudden parents of boys are parenting differently or less effectively compared with girls or with previous generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for people to talk about how teaching has changed to be more advantageous to girls.

Some of it is biological according to NYT article about this - boys mature later than girls do, yet the academic expectations of the younger grades has increased over time as have testing standards which affect how classroom time is utilized (prep to test bc experiential).

Recess used to be 60-90 min daily, unstructured. That was early to mid 20th century. Yet weekly recess time has decreased by sixty minutes since just 2001.

So first you're saying that the focus on girls activities and programs meant for girls has caused the downfall of boys, but now you're saying it's just lack of recess? Make up your minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for people to talk about how teaching has changed to be more advantageous to girls.

Less recess.

+2 Also, expectations to sit still and no talking for longer periods of time during the day.

Nope. Not buying it. I still think it's the lack of discipline. You let your babies get away with everything.

I’m not buying that all of a sudden parents of boys are parenting differently or less effectively compared with girls or with previous generations.

Oh please, boys are no longer being disciplined in the same way that they used to be disciplined. Tell me that's not true?

[Anonymous]

The boy that threatened to rape a girl on a school bus would have been thrown out of school. Instead, he's still on the bus, still threatening her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Having a boy really opened my eyes to this issue. My well behaved, introvert, academically inclined DS is completing college a semester early with nearly perfect gpa, and even he ran into the bias against boys in the educational system. He had some wonderful teachers through the years, but he had some that clearly just didn’t like boys. I had friends with boys who were naturally rowdier who really struggled with it.

It has nothing to do with how they do on their academic assignments, but teachers who expect boys to act like girls and penalize them when they don’t and then wonder why they don’t like school. My son has had a great academic career, but I regret not sending him to an all boys school through at least middle school.

I don't have any sons, only daughters but I do agree there is sort if a bias against boys. Lots of teachers are female so that might be one of the reasons. Also I have no doubt that boys raised in divorced families with no fathers or a father figure has had an impact. Bottomline, we need more male role models.

How come boys used to thrive in the classroom then? Back in the baby boomer generation.

They were class presidents, leaders, valedictorians. This was in an era when teachers were female and classroom rules were very strict and prescriptive. Today, students are allowed to make noise and roam around in class. Back then they had be still and quiet.

So, how come boys were more successful academically back then?

Maybe because kindergarten wasn’t mandatory. Many children did not enter first grade until they were almost seven. Now kindergarteners are required to sit still for so long.

[Anonymous]

My DS is at a private HS school on the west coast that is 50/50 gender balanced and 100% apply to and move onto college. I don't know the methodology of the poll, but I'm surprised there's this much of a differential. The teen boys in my DS's crew all want to go to college, are motivated and taking all the steps to make their college aspirations happen.

[Anonymous]

Well, my college sophomore son is home for spring break working on a project on Saturday night. His sister, a HS senior, will probably need a designated driver this evening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is at a private HS school on the west coast that is 50/50 gender balanced and 100% apply to and move onto college. I don't know the methodology of the poll, but I'm surprised there's this much of a differential. The teen boys in my DS's crew all want to go to college, are motivated and taking all the steps to make their college aspirations happen.

There is a lack of parenting for some boys and they are failing now that they have to compete for jobs with all of society not just their peers. My DS from a high SES household is expected to perform at a high level and he does. Parental expectations and support is the difference. My guess is your DD’s male friends are expected to succeed and have parental support.

[Anonymous]

College outside a flagship, top 50 lac or top 50 national private really should be disbanded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, my college sophomore son is home for spring break working on a project on Saturday night. His sister, a HS senior, will probably need a designated driver this evening.

Beta son, only fans daughter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a boy really opened my eyes to this issue. My well behaved, introvert, academically inclined DS is completing college a semester early with nearly perfect gpa, and even he ran into the bias against boys in the educational system. He had some wonderful teachers through the years, but he had some that clearly just didn’t like boys. I had friends with boys who were naturally rowdier who really struggled with it.

It has nothing to do with how they do on their academic assignments, but teachers who expect boys to act like girls and penalize them when they don’t and then wonder why they don’t like school. My son has had a great academic career, but I regret not sending him to an all boys school through at least middle school.

I don't have any sons, only daughters but I do agree there is sort if a bias against boys. Lots of teachers are female so that might be one of the reasons. Also I have no doubt that boys raised in divorced families with no fathers or a father figure has had an impact. Bottomline, we need more male role models.

How come boys used to thrive in the classroom then? Back in the baby boomer generation.

They were class presidents, leaders, valedictorians. This was in an era when teachers were female and classroom rules were very strict and prescriptive. Today, students are allowed to make noise and roam around in class. Back then they had be still and quiet.

So, how come boys were more successful academically back then?

Maybe because kindergarten wasn’t mandatory. Many children did not enter first grade until they were almost seven. Now kindergarteners are required to sit still for so long.

And why is that detrimental to only boys and not girls?

[Anonymous]

I guess little girls don't need recess.

[Anonymous]

So does this mean that boys that go to all boys schools are ALL doing great? Because the learning and activities are centered around them? No failing boys from private all boys schools? None. None of them turned MAGA either, right? RIGHT?