If you applied to colleges outside the US, why?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

Depends on the country, and having an EU passport.

Also an EU passport won't help you in the UK (unless Irish) but also, see comment about residency. I know a UK citizen who is still paying overseas fees since she grew up in thr US.

Exactly. I have two kids in UK colleges. They were born in the UK to UK parents and have UK and US passports. We raised them in the US. Unless they had spent the last 3 yrs living and schooling in the UK they qualify as International Students. This is very hard to circumnavigate.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

What is your problem? My kid is paying $100k as stated by the university stat pages. And doing very well, thank you. Sorry you such a bizarre personality disorder that you have to fight about nonsense on mommy boards

100k a year for 3 years is still a lot better than 100k a year for 4 years. And most kids at Oxford, you can admit, are paying more like 70k

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Why leave?

School shootings are a big motivation.

We lived in the DMV and LA. We experienced school shootings, wild fires, blizzards, security issues in public schools from individual students (violence, sexual violence).

All good reasons to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

Depends on the country, and having an EU passport.

Also an EU passport won't help you in the UK (unless Irish) but also, see comment about residency. I know a UK citizen who is still paying overseas fees since she grew up in thr US.

Exactly. I have two kids in UK colleges. They were born in the UK to UK parents and have UK and US passports. We raised them in the US. Unless they had spent the last 3 yrs living and schooling in the UK they qualify as International Students. This is very hard to circumnavigate.

Similar. But the rules aren’t hard and fast. Some universities will offer home fees and I guess that might be if they want to attract a particular candidate. I know this was the case for two British families in DC. But you won’t know this is advance.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

What is your problem? My kid is paying $100k as stated by the university stat pages. And doing very well, thank you. Sorry you such a bizarre personality disorder that you have to fight about nonsense on mommy boards

100k a year for 3 years is still a lot better than 100k a year for 4 years. And most kids at Oxford, you can admit, are paying more like 70k

But keep in mind there is very little financial aid and no merit. It’s not like in America. And cost of living is higher plus add in airfare cost. Flying the family over for graduation + hotel at Oxford was very $$.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

What is your problem? My kid is paying $100k as stated by the university stat pages. And doing very well, thank you. Sorry you such a bizarre personality disorder that you have to fight about nonsense on mommy boards

100k a year for 3 years is still a lot better than 100k a year for 4 years. And most kids at Oxford, you can admit, are paying more like 70k

But keep in mind there is very little financial aid and no merit. It’s not like in America. And cost of living is higher plus add in airfare cost. Flying the family over for graduation + hotel at Oxford was very $$.

we're talking full pay families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

Depends on the country, and having an EU passport.

Also an EU passport won't help you in the UK (unless Irish) but also, see comment about residency. I know a UK citizen who is still paying overseas fees since she grew up in thr US.

Exactly. I have two kids in UK colleges. They were born in the UK to UK parents and have UK and US passports. We raised them in the US. Unless they had spent the last 3 yrs living and schooling in the UK they qualify as International Students. This is very hard to circumnavigate.

The good thing about having two passports is that the student can get a part-time job in the UK and stay there to work without any serious hassles.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

What is your problem? My kid is paying $100k as stated by the university stat pages. And doing very well, thank you. Sorry you such a bizarre personality disorder that you have to fight about nonsense on mommy boards

100k a year for 3 years is still a lot better than 100k a year for 4 years. And most kids at Oxford, you can admit, are paying more like 70k

But keep in mind there is very little financial aid and no merit. It’s not like in America. And cost of living is higher plus add in airfare cost. Flying the family over for graduation + hotel at Oxford was very $$.

Are we not living in the same United States where every top college is pushing $100,000. It's frustrating that our tuitions can even compare.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

What is your problem? My kid is paying $100k as stated by the university stat pages. And doing very well, thank you. Sorry you such a bizarre personality disorder that you have to fight about nonsense on mommy boards

100k a year for 3 years is still a lot better than 100k a year for 4 years. And most kids at Oxford, you can admit, are paying more like 70k

But keep in mind there is very little financial aid and no merit. It’s not like in America. And cost of living is higher plus add in airfare cost. Flying the family over for graduation + hotel at Oxford was very $$.

How did the Oxford graduation work? I've heard they don't have a single ceremony/ date for the class. Do people graduate only with their course? Their college? How far in advance do they know the date of the graduation?

[Anonymous]

Every day there is some new danger or threat from t-rump. He had the audacity, just today - to personally re-name the Kennedy center after himself!

You really need to send your children abroad as soon as possible !!

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Anonymous wrote:Our US tours focused heavily on social factors that DS didn’t care about. His Cambridge tour was perfect and convinced him that it was the academic space he craved. He’s now graduated and it was worth every penny!

Same with our kid at Oxford. They were fed up with the woke, race, DEI, crap of American universities. Three years in and veey happy.

In other words, I’ll fly my kid half way round the world in the hope that they don’t have to run into black people on campus

Wanting to avoid black people is racist - which identifies you as such and/or as ignorant. Those wanting to avoid a woke mindset are not purely doing so for racial bias. Mainly its leftist and identity politics most want to avoid and to gain admission based upon their academic strength - not the color of their skin or biased interpretation of gender/orientation. Please keep your kid and self in the DVM, NYC and CA.

International UK students are admitted not by the color of their skin, but by the size of their wallets. Even at Oxbridge, the ability to pay $$$$$$ makes the process much less competitive as only tiny fraction of students can even think of applying in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid very much wants to go to university overseas but we are discouraging (my not allow) for personal reasons. Her motivation is that the US is full of conflict, racism, and crime. She also said she'd like to be a teacher but would never want to teach in US schools because she's been doing school shooting drills since kindergarten and because her teachers tell her that their jobs suck. I'm not saying these are good reasons (and she doesn't understand how hard it is to get a work visa outside your home country), but this is what she is expressing (strongly).

She would earn more as a private school US teacher than as w UK state school teacher. Also, immigration is not as easy as she might like to think, especially given the recent UK government's policies.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is an athlete - but a figure skater which is not recruitable in the US. (obv if you have an olympic medal it's a plus)

so good GPA, excellent SATs and APs, plus very focused athlete with very little "impact"/"passion project" etc = great candidate for UK. plus, great skating there.

also we're full pay so we're looking at schools that are 35k GBP. plus room and board. it's a lot cheaper.

But the academic rigor of UK schools would leave her with less time for skating.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

International tuition at the only other top ranked UK uni is not significantly less.

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Anonymous wrote:Our US tours focused heavily on social factors that DS didn’t care about. His Cambridge tour was perfect and convinced him that it was the academic space he craved. He’s now graduated and it was worth every penny!

Same with our kid at Oxford. They were fed up with the woke, race, DEI, crap of American universities. Three years in and veey happy.

In other words, I’ll fly my kid half way round the world in the hope that they don’t have to run into black people on campus

hello? right now UK is more liberal than US. Have you looked at the Mayor of London? and yes! Soon the Mayor of New York. maybe NYU is back en vogue!

This person who thinks UK campuses are all white hasn't walked down a London street in the last 30 years, Nevermind know who the mayor is

It's about uni, and indeed Imperial and Oxbridge are mostly white and Asian