College Counseling Hours during Winter Break?

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Anonymous wrote:PP CC: Not comfortable naming my school as I would like to stay employed and you strike me as the kind of person who would happily call on Monday. If this is a priority for you, I recommend asking this question to admissions when your child applies to high school.


+1 Absolutely ask that question, so we know to reject you.

-- Admissions


Interesting. So if the CC PP names the school, they will get fired. If a prospective parent asks about this policy, their child will be rejected outright. Why is the school so afraid to have this policy known and to answer questions about it? Why punish people for talking about it?



So surprising neither PP was willing to answer these Qs!



I think because there are posters like you who are unhinged and will take this information to the school and/or use it in some way to get people in trouble or worse.

Different schools have different policies. You will not agree or like all policies at your school. If there are policies, like CC availability over the holidays, that you care deeply about, ask your school up front. If their policies do not line up with your expectations you can either push for change, switch schools, or hire outside help.


The CC PP said they were afraid they would get fired. What kind of school would fire someone for this?

According to the admissions PP (and you in your second post?), asking a school about this policy upfront will result in rejection of the student. So a parent interested in this policy is not allowed to ask until already at the school? Shouldn’t that information be available to prospective parents from the school itself rather than from other families? If a parent doesn’t agree with a policy they were not allowed to ask about before signing a contract, then they are supposed to switch their kids to another school? Which policies does this apply to? Why would a school punish a student for asking about a policy rather than just stating it up front and letting parents decide based on known information?



This thread has gotten ridiculous.

Look. College counselors and teachers are going to help out because they are caring, contributing types of people. I posted above that our office was closed over break, but our counselors still answered emails. So did I, even though it isn’t my job.

Then the thread took a turn because some posters saw this as an obligation instead of a kind gesture, and then insults started being thrown.

And to what end? Stressed parents are now more stressed (and angry). Teachers and counselors who feel taken advantage of now feel resentful.

Just give it a rest.


And I posted above that CCs at our school are available to a limited degree virtually over break. No judgment, no comment, just answering OP’s Q.

I noticed you didn’t answer the above question.


Because it’s a silly question. No school is going to fire someone. But at the same time, nobody is going to name a school and invite drama. Educators have enough to deal with already.


Not silly for the CC PP who said they don’t want to risk their job.

How is a prospective parent supposed to find out a school’s policy if asking during application season would cause the school to reject their child out of hand? Why would a school hide this?


How about why can


This is not a big deal.

If a college counseling department’s willingness to be open over Christmas is the determining factor between schools for you, then simply call the schools and ask whether their CC offices are open over break. You can do this anonymously if you’re worried, but no admissions department is going to discredit your application because of a simple question.

Let’s not create problems.
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Anonymous wrote:PP CC: Not comfortable naming my school as I would like to stay employed and you strike me as the kind of person who would happily call on Monday. If this is a priority for you, I recommend asking this question to admissions when your child applies to high school.


+1 Absolutely ask that question, so we know to reject you.

-- Admissions


Interesting. So if the CC PP names the school, they will get fired. If a prospective parent asks about this policy, their child will be rejected outright. Why is the school so afraid to have this policy known and to answer questions about it? Why punish people for talking about it?



So surprising neither PP was willing to answer these Qs!



I think because there are posters like you who are unhinged and will take this information to the school and/or use it in some way to get people in trouble or worse.

Different schools have different policies. You will not agree or like all policies at your school. If there are policies, like CC availability over the holidays, that you care deeply about, ask your school up front. If their policies do not line up with your expectations you can either push for change, switch schools, or hire outside help.


The CC PP said they were afraid they would get fired. What kind of school would fire someone for this?

According to the admissions PP (and you in your second post?), asking a school about this policy upfront will result in rejection of the student. So a parent interested in this policy is not allowed to ask until already at the school? Shouldn’t that information be available to prospective parents from the school itself rather than from other families? If a parent doesn’t agree with a policy they were not allowed to ask about before signing a contract, then they are supposed to switch their kids to another school? Which policies does this apply to? Why would a school punish a student for asking about a policy rather than just stating it up front and letting parents decide based on known information?



This thread has gotten ridiculous.

Look. College counselors and teachers are going to help out because they are caring, contributing types of people. I posted above that our office was closed over break, but our counselors still answered emails. So did I, even though it isn’t my job.

Then the thread took a turn because some posters saw this as an obligation instead of a kind gesture, and then insults started being thrown.

And to what end? Stressed parents are now more stressed (and angry). Teachers and counselors who feel taken advantage of now feel resentful.

Just give it a rest.


And I posted above that CCs at our school are available to a limited degree virtually over break. No judgment, no comment, just answering OP’s Q.

I noticed you didn’t answer the above question.


Because it’s a silly question. No school is going to fire someone. But at the same time, nobody is going to name a school and invite drama. Educators have enough to deal with already.


Not silly for the CC PP who said they don’t want to risk their job.

How is a prospective parent supposed to find out a school’s policy if asking during application season would cause the school to reject their child out of hand? Why would a school hide this?


How about why can


This is not a big deal.

If a college counseling department’s willingness to be open over Christmas is the determining factor between schools for you, then simply call the schools and ask whether their CC offices are open over break. You can do this anonymously if you’re worried, but no admissions department is going to discredit your application because of a simple question.

Let’s not create problems.


Acc to two PPs upthread, just asking the question will result in rejection or being known as an unhinged parent.

That’s a problem.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP CC: Not comfortable naming my school as I would like to stay employed and you strike me as the kind of person who would happily call on Monday. If this is a priority for you, I recommend asking this question to admissions when your child applies to high school.


+1 Absolutely ask that question, so we know to reject you.

-- Admissions


Interesting. So if the CC PP names the school, they will get fired. If a prospective parent asks about this policy, their child will be rejected outright. Why is the school so afraid to have this policy known and to answer questions about it? Why punish people for talking about it?



So surprising neither PP was willing to answer these Qs!



I think because there are posters like you who are unhinged and will take this information to the school and/or use it in some way to get people in trouble or worse.

Different schools have different policies. You will not agree or like all policies at your school. If there are policies, like CC availability over the holidays, that you care deeply about, ask your school up front. If their policies do not line up with your expectations you can either push for change, switch schools, or hire outside help.


The CC PP said they were afraid they would get fired. What kind of school would fire someone for this?

According to the admissions PP (and you in your second post?), asking a school about this policy upfront will result in rejection of the student. So a parent interested in this policy is not allowed to ask until already at the school? Shouldn’t that information be available to prospective parents from the school itself rather than from other families? If a parent doesn’t agree with a policy they were not allowed to ask about before signing a contract, then they are supposed to switch their kids to another school? Which policies does this apply to? Why would a school punish a student for asking about a policy rather than just stating it up front and letting parents decide based on known information?



This thread has gotten ridiculous.

Look. College counselors and teachers are going to help out because they are caring, contributing types of people. I posted above that our office was closed over break, but our counselors still answered emails. So did I, even though it isn’t my job.

Then the thread took a turn because some posters saw this as an obligation instead of a kind gesture, and then insults started being thrown.

And to what end? Stressed parents are now more stressed (and angry). Teachers and counselors who feel taken advantage of now feel resentful.

Just give it a rest.


And I posted above that CCs at our school are available to a limited degree virtually over break. No judgment, no comment, just answering OP’s Q.

I noticed you didn’t answer the above question.


Because it’s a silly question. No school is going to fire someone. But at the same time, nobody is going to name a school and invite drama. Educators have enough to deal with already.


Not silly for the CC PP who said they don’t want to risk their job.

How is a prospective parent supposed to find out a school’s policy if asking during application season would cause the school to reject their child out of hand? Why would a school hide this?


How about why can


This is not a big deal.

If a college counseling department’s willingness to be open over Christmas is the determining factor between schools for you, then simply call the schools and ask whether their CC offices are open over break. You can do this anonymously if you’re worried, but no admissions department is going to discredit your application because of a simple question.

Let’s not create problems.


Acc to two PPs upthread, just asking the question will result in rejection or being known as an unhinged parent.

That’s a problem.


No, it’s not. First, you’re assuming that post was actually written by an admissions counselor. I’m guessing it wasn’t. Asking a simple question won’t make you an unhinged parent.

Now, making comments like some above (like “tell me which schools don’t have counselors working over break so I know not to apply there” like the PP above? That comes across as a bit unhinged.
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I think the point PP was trying to make is if you ask as an applicant for 9th grade “are you college counselors on call over the Christmas break” if comes across as a bit much. Maybe just phrase it bit differently?
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