Black Voters Drift From Democrats, Imperiling Harris’s Bid, Poll Shows

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The 2016, 2018, 2020, and 2022 were all "Dewey Wins!" I live in a fairly conservative town in Virginia and I have been amazed at how many "Harris, Walz" as signs and how few "Trump, Vance" signs.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty large chunks of black and Latino voters drifting away from Harris per the recent polls. Add to that whatever is going on with Muslims in Michigan. Will be interesting to see what happens. Trump is senile and crazy. So I guess it’ll be Vance and the Project 2025 people running things if Trump wins. I mean, on the one hand, if they can stem illegal immigration, renew the Trump tax cuts, stop trying to cancel student debt, and give a big F U to the pro Palestinian protesters, I’m not opposed to those things at all. My main areas of concern are for our international alliances, spiraling debt and entitlements (not that Ds would be any more responsible on those either) and the Supreme Court. I’m not a working class black or Latino or Palestinian in MI, so can’t speak to why they’re drawn to Trump. There’s probably some crossover with the things I’ve noted that I’d be in favor of. But also think some of g the em are deeply wrong on what would happen economically speaking. Like, if Trump actually implements any of the economic policies he’s espoused, inflation will come roaring back, agriculture and construction will collapse (since he’s planning to deport all those workers) and we’ll get slammed with another recession. Not sure how that will be beneficial to working class minorities but whatever. Sometimes people just want to burn it all down and I think that’s where we are right now. We haven’t hit bottom yet.

Curious.

Not that complicated - we overspend. Lots of areas of bloat that I’d be fine with cutting. Our military for one has become a massive welfare program and full of contracting grift. But it’s politically toxic to do anything other than increase spending to them. On the left side, actual welfare programs have grown way too much. And now we’re also covering millions of destitute migrants. There is a saying that the more you subsidize something, the more you’ll get. To wit: increasing generational poverty and governmental dependence.

LOL.

Trump doesn’t care about debt and how much do you think deporting millions will cost us? (Hint: The estimates are $1 TRILLION)

“President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing during his full term in office, or $4.8 trillion excluding the CARES Act and other COVID relief.
President Biden, in his first three years and five months in office, approved $4.3 trillion of new ten-year borrowing, or $2.2 trillion excluding the American Rescue Plan.”

Not sure who you think you’re arguing against. My earlier point was that neither party cares about reduction of the deficit and entitlements. I also pointed out that Trump’s deportation plan would collapse agriculture, construction and contribute to massive recession. People on this forum are so exhaustingly binary. I’m voting for Harris but are there some things that Trump has promoted that I’d be on board with? Absolutely. Continuing the Trump tax cuts is one of them because (a) they set off the crap he pulled against blue states when he capped the SALT exemption and (b) I think there’s entirely too much bloat, waste and giveaways by the government that should be reined in and not funded by taxes.

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Dirty secret is that Black women are not going to vote for her either no matter what they “say”. They aren’t going to pull the lever

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democratic pollster. Internals show this same trend. We're worried. Very worried. Please get the vote out.

Yeah and I’m Kamala Harris, posting on DCUM.

Believe what you want. I’m just the data cruncher. Most Black men aren’t voting for Trump, but we do have a turnout concern.

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Are republicans finally agreeing that BLACK LIVES MATTER???!

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Black male voters are still nearly 80% for Harris. Ridiculous to paint this as a major rejection of Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:Good article from the NYT today
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/briefing/hispanic-black-americans-election-poll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SE4.Fq36.j6L9fmLwWO-E&smid=url-share

So Americans of color like the patriarchy? This should be interesting.

Donald is the waddling embodiment of toxic masculinity. BIPOC can’t possibly support that!

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With Trump in office it means more racial profiling, more innocent black men and women dying from "shoot first ask questions later" cops, more blacks being stopped, searched, frisked, harrassed by police, and all that. Why do we want to go back to that?

Democrats in office means more black victims of crime, with the criminals being released back onto the streets.

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With Trump in office it means more racial profiling, more innocent black men and women dying from "shoot first ask questions later" cops, more blacks being stopped, searched, frisked, harrassed by police, and all that. Why do we want to go back to that?

Democrats in office means more black victims of crime, with the criminals being released back onto the streets.

MAGA/Trump in office means "bring back the death penalty" for wrongly convicted black men.

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Anonymous wrote:Black male voters are still nearly 80% for Harris. Ridiculous to paint this as a major rejection of Harris.

From an historical perspective it is. It is simple math, if Trump gets 15% of the black male vote he wins, and as he would say he wins hugely.

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Those of you claiming to be deeply panicked and worried Democrat pollsters, or otherwise claiming there is data showing a mass exodus of black male voters that are defecting to Trump, do you care to explain this then?

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With Trump in office it means more racial profiling, more innocent black men and women dying from "shoot first ask questions later" cops, more blacks being stopped, searched, frisked, harrassed by police, and all that. Why do we want to go back to that?

Democrats in office means more black victims of crime, with the criminals being released back onto the streets.

Fake news. Crime rates have been coming back down all across America. Thanks, Joe.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you claiming to be deeply panicked and worried Democrat pollsters, or otherwise claiming there is data showing a mass exodus of black male voters that are defecting to Trump, do you care to explain this then?

did the survey question explicitly ask about Harris versus Trump? no, it asked about party more broadly.

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With Trump in office it means more racial profiling, more innocent black men and women dying from "shoot first ask questions later" cops, more blacks being stopped, searched, frisked, harrassed by police, and all that. Why do we want to go back to that?

Democrats in office means more black victims of crime, with the criminals being released back onto the streets.

Not to mention all the prisoners that were sent to the USA from Central and South American prisons in recent years, as well as gang members from El Salvador and Mexico.