Using Tru Green and neighbor says it’s affecting her lupus and asked us to stop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wwyd?? She seems rather delicate and is hard to deal with

Stop it, switch to a firm providing organic, non-chemical lawn treatment and ask her to pay the difference (or not, if you are friends).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at all of these jerks who prioritize a superficial landscape over the health of other people and the natural balance that all life depends on. Just basic selfishness by the proudly ignorant among us.

I get the heightened feelings around the subject and I’m probably pretty much in agreement with you otherwise, but calling people selfish and proudly ignorant isn’t the way to convince anyone to read up on the subject. Insulting people prevents people from learning that grass leads to more runoff and flash floods, that the soil culture is essentially dead and is absorbing almost no carbon, that the creation and shipping of all the lawn chemicals pushes more carbon into the atmosphere, and that monoculture lawns mean there’s nowhere for our pollinators, which means no birds.

For the record, I get pretty gnarly vertigo when I inhale too much the lawn poisons (I don’t know if it’s the pesticide or the herbicide or maybe a bouquet of that plus fertilizer, but whatever they apply wet that stinks for two or three days is ratchet), but don’t insult people. It doesn’t help our cause (and it’s such an important cause).

[Anonymous]

For all those saying to stop spreading "chemicals" on the lawn. You do realize that water is a chemical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all those saying to stop spreading "chemicals" on the lawn. You do realize that water is a chemical.

Clearly, no one is referring to water in this context. Water is not considered a "lawn chemical".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all those saying to stop spreading "chemicals" on the lawn. You do realize that water is a chemical.

Stop watering then. If it falls from the sky, great! If not, let the grass learn adversity. Makes them stronger.

[Anonymous]

“Nice lawns” are for striving insecure losers though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all those saying to stop spreading "chemicals" on the lawn. You do realize that water is a chemical.

Yes, we all took organic chemistry in high school. I’m not sure who you think you’re showing up here, other than yourself. The herbicides, pesticides and fertilizers that are spread liberally on lawns in spring and summer (and some places, off and on throughout the summer) are not neutral products. There’s PFAS in milorganite, for example, and that’s otherwise just literally sterilized and processed sewage.

Every application of herbicides and pesticides kills your soil biome, and it doesn’t stay on your lawn, either. It blows around, it washes downstream. I know you think you’re the cutest kid in class with the “water is a chemical” but you come across incredibly silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Nice lawns” are for striving insecure losers though.

Ha. You’re likely the neighbor who everyone hates because your crappy home is dragging down property values

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Nice lawns” are for striving insecure losers though.

Ha. You’re likely the neighbor who everyone hates because your crappy home is dragging down property values

You can sue, you can go to the HOA, you can ask nicely. If you don’t have any remedy, you can STFU or move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Nice lawns” are for striving insecure losers though.

Care to post a picture of your yard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
“Nice lawns” are for striving insecure losers though.


Ha. You’re likely the neighbor who everyone hates because your crappy home is dragging down property values

Have not posted here yet. We do not use any herbicides or pesticides and our lawn is beautiful. Of course we have reduced it and put in trees, shrubs, flowers, plants. Our house is far from crappy and is definitely the property raising neighborhood values.

[Anonymous]

^We don't have a second house so maybe that is part of your issue. You probably don't have time/resources to make your yard nice without using "chemicals".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Nice lawns” are for striving insecure losers though.

Ha. You’re likely the neighbor who everyone hates because your crappy home is dragging down property values

Our lawn looks great and we don't use chemicals or even water it because we paid very close attention to producing healthy soil and choosing grass that are right for this climate. We have native trees and shrubs and a few noninvasive, non native ornamentals, and lovely beds of manicured native perennials.

You seem to think the people who want to protect the environment are ignorant and don't care about what their houses and neighborhoods look like, when in most cases they are the most informed about gardening and the environment. At the same time you seem to esteem people who hire a "lawn service" to plant high maintenance grass species and then profit by spraying expensive and unneeded chemicals on the lawns of people who don't know any better.

[Anonymous]

We are at the end of a culdesac with a woodsy area behind us in which lives turkey, deer, opossums, groundhogs, rabbits, turtles, and many types of birds and other small mammals.

Our lawn has been allowed to go natural for more than a quarter century now - there is some grass but it is mostly a variety of weedy plants and clover and mossy patches under the trees. We mow it every other week during growing season to keep it manageable although we do no mow May.

Our neighbor just redid his lawn this summer, it is a perfect uniform green of a weird shade - almost a bright algae green color. He spends hours and hours spraying it with various things and mowing it to within an inch of its life.

But I use the word ‘life’ generously because his lawn is sterile. Nobody goes on his lawn. Our lawn will be covered with robins and other ground feeding birds, and groundhogs, rabbits, deer, etc. but his lawn just feet away - NOBODY lands on his lawn. There is nothing but sterile neon green monocultured grass and beyond that, death. No bugs, no seeds, no other life.

I just don’t see the perspective of people who think *that* is more attractive than an abundance of life and woodland creatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at the end of a culdesac with a woodsy area behind us in which lives turkey, deer, opossums, groundhogs, rabbits, turtles, and many types of birds and other small mammals.

Our lawn has been allowed to go natural for more than a quarter century now - there is some grass but it is mostly a variety of weedy plants and clover and mossy patches under the trees. We mow it every other week during growing season to keep it manageable although we do no mow May.

Our neighbor just redid his lawn this summer, it is a perfect uniform green of a weird shade - almost a bright algae green color. He spends hours and hours spraying it with various things and mowing it to within an inch of its life.

But I use the word ‘life’ generously because his lawn is sterile. Nobody goes on his lawn. Our lawn will be covered with robins and other ground feeding birds, and groundhogs, rabbits, deer, etc. but his lawn just feet away - NOBODY lands on his lawn. There is nothing but sterile neon green monocultured grass and beyond that, death. No bugs, no seeds, no other life.

I just don’t see the perspective of people who think *that* is more attractive than an abundance of life and woodland creatures.

Cool story, bro