Reputation of St. John's College HS and other "normal" privates

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

Try:

Oct 26 @ home vs DeMatha (1:00pm)
Nov 9 @ home vs Gonzaga (1:00pm)

These are both “big deal” games. Stands should be full, especially for Gonzaga.

Definitely check out the Gonzaga football game. The entire Cadet Corps marches on the field before the game. It’s impressive to watch and it’s just one of the many things that’s makes SJC unique in this area. It’s always a fun day.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

It appears to be hard for you. There aren’t that many of them and 10,000 is a lot of high schoolers. And of course, St Johns is in DC. Few of the Virginia privates are close enough to warrant serious consideration.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

It appears to be hard for you. There aren’t that many of them and 10,000 is a lot of high schoolers. And of course, St Johns is in DC. Few of the Virginia privates are close enough to warrant serious consideration.

LOL
There are at least 7 private HS just in MoCo.
What's so hard for you to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

It appears to be hard for you. There aren’t that many of them and 10,000 is a lot of high schoolers. And of course, St Johns is in DC. Few of the Virginia privates are close enough to warrant serious consideration.

LOL
There are at least 7 private HS just in MoCo.
What's so hard for you to understand?

Yes, and most are small. Landon has 320 in 9-12, Prep has 400 day students.

SJC draws a lot of Montgomery County kids. SJC is closer than Good Counsel to Bethesda, Kensington, much of Rockville etc.

Like the other thousands, they are fleeing the disorder of the public schools to a much nicer environment that's not controlled by the MCPS and the Teacher's unions.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

The downside of a big sports school is that many sports are training/competing year round.

All baseball teams were at a tournament yesterday as an example, so that’s 100 kids that probably had to skip.

No idea how many other sports alsi had similar conflicts.

Many Fall off-season stuff will finish soon so the late October / November games will be generally better attended.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

It appears to be hard for you. There aren’t that many of them and 10,000 is a lot of high schoolers. And of course, St Johns is in DC. Few of the Virginia privates are close enough to warrant serious consideration.

LOL
There are at least 7 private HS just in MoCo.
What's so hard for you to understand?

Yes, and most are small. Landon has 320 in 9-12, Prep has 400 day students.

SJC draws a lot of Montgomery County kids. SJC is closer than Good Counsel to Bethesda, Kensington, much of Rockville etc.

Like the other thousands, they are fleeing the disorder of the public schools to a much nicer environment that's not controlled by the MCPS and the Teacher's unions.

You're doing a lot of clueless talking but you still cannot show receipts.
Your math is still not mathing...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

It appears to be hard for you. There aren’t that many of them and 10,000 is a lot of high schoolers. And of course, St Johns is in DC. Few of the Virginia privates are close enough to warrant serious consideration.

LOL
There are at least 7 private HS just in MoCo.
What's so hard for you to understand?

Yes, and most are small. Landon has 320 in 9-12, Prep has 400 day students.

SJC draws a lot of Montgomery County kids. SJC is closer than Good Counsel to Bethesda, Kensington, much of Rockville etc.

Like the other thousands, they are fleeing the disorder of the public schools to a much nicer environment that's not controlled by the MCPS and the Teacher's unions.

You're doing a lot of clueless talking but you still cannot show receipts.
Your math is still not mathing...

Where are your numbers?

I mean other than the 10,000 that are willing to pay to avoid the public schools, that is.

You’re like the annoying college sophomore who comes home at Christmas and wants people to prove the obvious with data. That’s the way it is with the half-educated.

There is no data in this case. Just experience and logic. When I see in the May Parish Times that parish schools in Montgomery County are sending up to 15 kids out of their graduating class to St Johns, I can assure you there’s a whole lot of Montgomery County kids on Military Road.

I can’t prove what I say and you can’t prove I’m wrong. And you have presented ZERO to support your case. You’re worse than that half-educated sophomore.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

The downside of a big sports school is that many sports are training/competing year round.

All baseball teams were at a tournament yesterday as an example, so that’s 100 kids that probably had to skip.

No idea how many other sports alsi had similar conflicts.

Many Fall off-season stuff will finish soon so the late October / November games will be generally better attended.

I second that and add that the early season football games are not truly representative of the student body or their school spirit. A wider range of SJC students will show up for the WCAC home games: DeMatha on Oct 26, and Gonzaga on Nov 9th (which will be a sellout and is the oldest high school football rivalry in the country).

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

The downside of a big sports school is that many sports are training/competing year round.

All baseball teams were at a tournament yesterday as an example, so that’s 100 kids that probably had to skip.

No idea how many other sports alsi had similar conflicts.

Many Fall off-season stuff will finish soon so the late October / November games will be generally better attended.

I second that and add that the early season football games are not truly representative of the student body or their school spirit. A wider range of SJC students will show up for the WCAC home games: DeMatha on Oct 26, and Gonzaga on Nov 9th (which will be a sellout and is the oldest high school football rivalry in the country).

Agree with this. I have two kids at SJC and they haven’t been to a football game yet this year. The games so far weren’t local rivals and not that interesting. They will be at DeMatha (which is also homecoming) and the Gonzaga game. Those will both be packed.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

The downside of a big sports school is that many sports are training/competing year round.

All baseball teams were at a tournament yesterday as an example, so that’s 100 kids that probably had to skip.

No idea how many other sports alsi had similar conflicts.

Many Fall off-season stuff will finish soon so the late October / November games will be generally better attended.

I second that and add that the early season football games are not truly representative of the student body or their school spirit. A wider range of SJC students will show up for the WCAC home games: DeMatha on Oct 26, and Gonzaga on Nov 9th (which will be a sellout and is the oldest high school football rivalry in the country).

Agree with this. I have two kids at SJC and they haven’t been to a football game yet this year. The games so far weren’t local rivals and not that interesting. They will be at DeMatha (which is also homecoming) and the Gonzaga game. Those will both be packed.

I appreciate they played a local, non-conference team and it was a close game.

I really hate the random teams from Ohio or Georgia where there are no opposing team fans. There are enough good teams you can play in the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

The downside of a big sports school is that many sports are training/competing year round.

All baseball teams were at a tournament yesterday as an example, so that’s 100 kids that probably had to skip.

No idea how many other sports alsi had similar conflicts.

Many Fall off-season stuff will finish soon so the late October / November games will be generally better attended.

I second that and add that the early season football games are not truly representative of the student body or their school spirit. A wider range of SJC students will show up for the WCAC home games: DeMatha on Oct 26, and Gonzaga on Nov 9th (which will be a sellout and is the oldest high school football rivalry in the country).

Agree with this. I have two kids at SJC and they haven’t been to a football game yet this year. The games so far weren’t local rivals and not that interesting. They will be at DeMatha (which is also homecoming) and the Gonzaga game. Those will both be packed.

I appreciate they played a local, non-conference team and it was a close game.

I really hate the random teams from Ohio or Georgia where there are no opposing team fans. There are enough good teams you can play in the DMV.

Not really. Once you get out of the top of the WCAC, the competition gets pretty weak.

The Montgomery County schools aren’t going to schedule SJC. The State athletic structure actually punishes schools that go outside the publics. And besides SJC would beat them easily.

The big Fairfax schools won’t schedule them. The last game I remember between DEMatha and a Fairfax school was in the 1990’s.

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Agree- while not as fun for the fans perhaps, it is great for the players to play these better teams.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Wow—things certainly devolved hahaha. The bickering about the top eschilon schools is honestly sad. Anyway I took somebody’s advice and went to the football game yesterday to check out the vibes. I was mostly swatting mosquitoes and making sure my kids didn’t run onto the field but it seemed to me that very few students were there to watch and almost no HS age girls. We were nearest the south end zone which maybe was opposite of the student section so perhaps that’s why we didn’t see many kids. Anyway it was a good way to tire out kids and I enjoyed spending a little time on the campus. Well go to another couple games for sure and maybe catch some coaches’ eyes with my kids’ talent for rolling down the grass hill 🤣

The downside of a big sports school is that many sports are training/competing year round.

All baseball teams were at a tournament yesterday as an example, so that’s 100 kids that probably had to skip.

No idea how many other sports alsi had similar conflicts.

Many Fall off-season stuff will finish soon so the late October / November games will be generally better attended.

I second that and add that the early season football games are not truly representative of the student body or their school spirit. A wider range of SJC students will show up for the WCAC home games: DeMatha on Oct 26, and Gonzaga on Nov 9th (which will be a sellout and is the oldest high school football rivalry in the country).

Agree with this. I have two kids at SJC and they haven’t been to a football game yet this year. The games so far weren’t local rivals and not that interesting. They will be at DeMatha (which is also homecoming) and the Gonzaga game. Those will both be packed.

I appreciate they played a local, non-conference team and it was a close game.

I really hate the random teams from Ohio or Georgia where there are no opposing team fans. There are enough good teams you can play in the DMV.

Not really. Once you get out of the top of the WCAC, the competition gets pretty weak.

The Montgomery County schools aren’t going to schedule SJC. The State athletic structure actually punishes schools that go outside the publics. And besides SJC would beat them easily.

The big Fairfax schools won’t schedule them. The last game I remember between DEMatha and a Fairfax school was in the 1990’s.

Considering SJC literally just played a DC Charter high school and the score was 14-6, proves that there is sufficient competition.

Last year, Dematha was losing to a VA public high school (they were I think ranked top 3 in the DC area...Freedom something?) and the game ended up not finishing because of a lightning storm.

Just look at the Washington Post weekly rankings of the top 20 teams and schedule against those teams, to the extent you are able.

Often these random teams from across the country aren't any good either. They played some completely random school from Buffalo two weeks ago and won 42-0.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see SJC mentioned much at all here. I wonder if it's because it's not one of the top schools, is affordable for normies, and doesn't carry the pretense some of the other more famous privates do. Is that right? We are not from the area and feel a little lost navigating the world of private schools. Both went to fairly elite private schools back home where everyone just kinda intutively knows which schools are the "rich kid schools", the "smart kid schools", "the artsy kid schools", etc. I fantasize sometimes about sending my kids to one of the cathedral schools, for example but I think financially, it's just not gonna be in the cards for us. I am trying to explore what I think of as the second tier schools like Gonzaga, possibly SJC, etc. I don't mean to denigrate any of these schools in any way; I don't know enough about any of them to have much to say positively or negatively. Just talking about tuition alone. Based on what I can gather, we would not qualify for aid but at the same time, $50k+ per child would be pretty uncomfortable for us. I ask about SJC specifically because we live nearby and I just saw on their website that tuition could be doable for us. But I'm really interested in learning about the general reputations of any schools outside of the STA/NCS, Sidwell, GDS, realm where the doctors, lawyers, and otherwise elite send their kids.

If you are on the MD side, B-CC is just as good or better. JR is a mixed bag with DCPS. We felt SJC was just a public school and way to focused on athletics. Very big difference b/t the athletic facilities and rest of the school.

There are lots of kids from Bethesda in bounds for Whitman, BCC, Churchill, etc. that attend SJC. I don't believe they are all athletes (but I am sure some are athletes).

Lots from Olney and that area as well which I never quite understood because Good Counsel is right there...but the ones I know were recruited athletes...though again, never understood it as I assume Good Counsel would also recruit them as well.

SJC has 1,300 students. I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% of them come from Montgomery County with a high concentration from towns that are served by BCC, WJ, Whitman, etc, etc.

That's 800 families who choose SJC instead of one of the Montgomery County high schools. That's a lot of people who apparently don't agree that BCC and similar schools are "better". That the supporters of the public schools don't understand why, doesn't matter.

17% of all kids in Montgomery County don't attend the public schools. In the western part of the County, it's probably 25% or more.

You're wrong.
In fact, you're wrong on all the numbers you posted.

NP. Not all, and not either of the numbers presented as fact.
SJC has about 1300 students (source: https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/College%20Counseling/School%20Profile.pdf )
83% of Montgomery County students are in public, therefore 17% are not (source: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/maryland/montgomery-county#google_vignette ).
PP presented the 60% and 25% as estimates/guesses. Do you have sources to indicate those percentages are likely wrong?

You want to show me where at least 60% SJC are from MoCo?

Do you want to show me where it says otherwise? As I said, pp presented the 60% as an estimate, and was correct in both numbers they presented as fact. You’re the one saying they are wrong about all of it. Well, they’re right about 2 of the 4, and you were wrong about 2 of the 4. So far, I’m inclined to believe pp has a better sense of the numbers than you do. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

So you're pulling numbers out of your a$$.
Got it

Not my numbers, I’m just saying the pp who gave them has been proven more correct than you so far. You’ve provided nothing to show that your statements are more accurate, while there are sources to verify the numbers pp gave as fact and which you stated (incorrectly) were wrong. If pp was right about those two numbers and you were wrong, barring you giving any sources to prove otherwise, why should we believe you are correct and pp is wrong in their estimates? All you’ve done is spit incorrect statements and insults, while pp has provided facts and what appear to be reasonable estimates.

Are y'all really that dumb? How can I be wrong when I never provided any number? It falls on the person giving numbers to backup his/her numbers.
Again, show me where at least 60% of SJC students are from MoCo.

Tell us where you think the 10,000 MoCo high school students go?

In one of several private HS in MoCo, DC and even NoVa.
It's not that hard.

It appears to be hard for you. There aren’t that many of them and 10,000 is a lot of high schoolers. And of course, St Johns is in DC. Few of the Virginia privates are close enough to warrant serious consideration.

LOL
There are at least 7 private HS just in MoCo.
What's so hard for you to understand?

Yes, and most are small. Landon has 320 in 9-12, Prep has 400 day students.

SJC draws a lot of Montgomery County kids. SJC is closer than Good Counsel to Bethesda, Kensington, much of Rockville etc.

Like the other thousands, they are fleeing the disorder of the public schools to a much nicer environment that's not controlled by the MCPS and the Teacher's unions.

You're doing a lot of clueless talking but you still cannot show receipts.
Your math is still not mathing...

Where are your numbers?

I mean other than the 10,000 that are willing to pay to avoid the public schools, that is.

You’re like the annoying college sophomore who comes home at Christmas and wants people to prove the obvious with data. That’s the way it is with the half-educated.

There is no data in this case. Just experience and logic. When I see in the May Parish Times that parish schools in Montgomery County are sending up to 15 kids out of their graduating class to St Johns, I can assure you there’s a whole lot of Montgomery County kids on Military Road.

I can’t prove what I say and you can’t prove I’m wrong. And you have presented ZERO to support your case. You’re worse than that half-educated sophomore.

Not one of the previous PPs, however I think saying 10K people are trying to escape public school might be a bit of an exaggeration with no real data to back it up. Also, using the Parish times as evidence doesn’t help as many of those kids never attended public school to begin with so again it’s a stretch that those families are trying to escape public school as much as some have always planned to attend Catholic school.