Why are DCUM parents less inclined to have their child major in business?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
It's especially competitive to get into the business programs at top schools if they have business programs.
UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Michigan, Notre Dame, Berkeley, NYU, USC, UVA, UNC, etc.

At many of these schools, you have to competitively apply to the program after you get accepted to the university.
Thus, if they are in a business school, they are smarter on the average.

I don't see your logic. Because you have to apply separately, the kids are smarter. I'd venture to guess the average Physics student is smarter than an honors english student, but the english student will have to apply separately to get into his/her honors program.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

Most of DCUM actually takes a big dump on history, English, etc humanities majors at any school…if you are generally polling overall DCUM sentiment.

There's currently a post asking how people feel about english majors, and people are overwhelmingly positive. DCUM is pretty receptive to liberal arts majors, tolerates STEM/Engineering, and takes a dump on pre-professional programs.

Sorry…DCUM cares about top schools and takes a huge shit on liberal arts majors….except if you procure such major from a top 20 school. Which of course says more about the prestige whoring aspect of DCUM in general which is its most common characteristic.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
It's especially competitive to get into the business programs at top schools if they have business programs.
UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Michigan, Notre Dame, Berkeley, NYU, USC, UVA, UNC, etc.

At many of these schools, you have to competitively apply to the program after you get accepted to the university.
Thus, if they are in a business school, they are smarter on the average.

I don't see your logic. Because you have to apply separately, the kids are smarter. I'd venture to guess the average Physics student is smarter than an honors english student, but the english student will have to apply separately to get into his/her honors program.

Don't you understand 'on the average'??
On the average, students at MIT are smarter than students at UAlabama.
O the average, students in business programs are smarter than English major students.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
It's especially competitive to get into the business programs at top schools if they have business programs.
UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Michigan, Notre Dame, Berkeley, NYU, USC, UVA, UNC, etc.

At many of these schools, you have to competitively apply to the program after you get accepted to the university.
Thus, if they are in a business school, they are smarter on the average.

I don't see your logic. Because you have to apply separately, the kids are smarter. I'd venture to guess the average Physics student is smarter than an honors english student, but the english student will have to apply separately to get into his/her honors program.

Don't you understand 'on the average'??
On the average, students at MIT are smarter than students at UAlabama.
O the average, students in business programs are smarter than English major students.

Yes, I'm saying just slapping that to anything can be false.
On the average anthropology majors are smarter than sociology majors. Proof? none, but the anthropology major at X and Y school has to be applied to.
On the average, you have massively idiotic takes-just, on the average though.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
It's especially competitive to get into the business programs at top schools if they have business programs.
UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Michigan, Notre Dame, Berkeley, NYU, USC, UVA, UNC, etc.

At many of these schools, you have to competitively apply to the program after you get accepted to the university.
Thus, if they are in a business school, they are smarter on the average.

I don't see your logic. Because you have to apply separately, the kids are smarter. I'd venture to guess the average Physics student is smarter than an honors english student, but the english student will have to apply separately to get into his/her honors program.

Don't you understand 'on the average'??
On the average, students at MIT are smarter than students at UAlabama.
O the average, students in business programs are smarter than English major students.

Yes, I'm saying just slapping that to anything can be false.
On the average anthropology majors are smarter than sociology majors. Proof? none, but the anthropology major at X and Y school has to be applied to.
On the average, you have massively idiotic takes-just, on the average though.

Are you pretending to be dumb?
It's a common sense and simple logic.
It's competitive admission.
Smarter students get in and less smart ones get rejected.

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Anonymous wrote:dcum always recommends CS and Engineering as degrees with best employment but I recruit finance undergrad and it is a decent major.

I don't really see the difference between DCUM promoting econ majors and finance degrees. They overwhelmingly go to the same careers.

That’s not really true. Econ and Finance majors from top schools may end up in IB and consulting, but you will find more Finance majors working for F500 companies either in trainee programs or going into financial planning & analysis or treasury functions. Econ majors aren’t usually hired for these roles.

Statistically, you have far more Econ majors pursuing graduate work vs finance majors as well (and interestingly, you have Math and Econ majors pursuing finance PhDs in higher numbers than finance undergrads).

I don't necessarily see the difference, other than you just saying econ majors aren't hired. From DC's recent cohort, quite a few are going to Apple after going into their Financial Developer program, and a ton participate in those trainee programs for financial planning and many of those jobs list "Finance, Financial Economics, Econ,..." as acceptable degrees. Sure, many went into IB or Consulting, but most end up in typical financial positions that you would get from a decent finance program. Of course, more people are going into Econ grad school-there's more economics to do out in the academic world, and if your goal is to work for the Fed or some prime-time international NPO, grad programs place well into them. The math majors going into finance want to be quants, not really surprising to me.

From what school? You have to go beyond the Top 50 to understand the difference for an Econ major vs a Finance major and career paths.

Actually…there is plenty of grad school work for Finance PhDs but schools have a hard time getting people to pursue those PhDs…that is why a finance PhD comes with a generous stipend and it is one of the few academic areas with lots of tenure-track jobs.

I don't see why. The type of students to get into a Finance PhD program are top students. The type of students to get into a good finance development program are from top schools overwhelmingly (in the case of Apple, they take a few "local" students at Santa Clara University for DEI). If you have the chops to get into a good finance career, you typically come from the top 50 or 100 colleges.
DC attended CMC.

Well…it depends a ton if you have an Econ or finance degree from CMC vs a finance or Econ degree from say University of Alabama. The finance majors probably have an easier time getting a job in the Coca Cola management trainee program vs the Econ majors…or a real world example, getting a job in the Capital One trainee program.

CMC doesn't have a finance undergrad program. I'm not sure about Capital one specifically, but most finance development programs do list econ as a sought-after background. Would you really want to design a finance program that excludes Harvard econ grads for example? If you have any prominence, you'll definitely be getting applications from top colleges, so it wouldn't really help to close those students off with a finance major requirement.

Most Harvard grads have little interest working for a F500 company…even if you designed a program for them I bet you wouldn’t even fill 50 interview slots at Harvard for say the Ford or Eli Lilly or John Deere Finance/Trainee program.

Companies know their target audience and are way more likely to recruit from Penn State than Harvard.

Really? It seems like people are always saying you need to graduate from places like Harvard to get in the door at Goldman Sachs, Apple, etc. Investment banking, engineering, etc. are no longer paths of interest for Harvard et al. grads?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
It's especially competitive to get into the business programs at top schools if they have business programs.
UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Michigan, Notre Dame, Berkeley, NYU, USC, UVA, UNC, etc.

At many of these schools, you have to competitively apply to the program after you get accepted to the university.
Thus, if they are in a business school, they are smarter on the average.

I don't see your logic. Because you have to apply separately, the kids are smarter. I'd venture to guess the average Physics student is smarter than an honors english student, but the english student will have to apply separately to get into his/her honors program.

Don't you understand 'on the average'??
On the average, students at MIT are smarter than students at UAlabama.
O the average, students in business programs are smarter than English major students.

Yes, I'm saying just slapping that to anything can be false.
On the average anthropology majors are smarter than sociology majors. Proof? none, but the anthropology major at X and Y school has to be applied to.
On the average, you have massively idiotic takes-just, on the average though.

Are you pretending to be dumb?
It's a common sense and simple logic.
It's competitive admission.
Smarter students get in and less smart ones get rejected.

Dp. Why are you trying to argue about something with no proof or stats to support it, and then slapping the "common" sense label on it to detract from that fact. Business majors aren't that smart, nothing wrong with mediocrity until you try to tout it as genius.

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Anonymous wrote:dcum always recommends CS and Engineering as degrees with best employment but I recruit finance undergrad and it is a decent major.

I don't really see the difference between DCUM promoting econ majors and finance degrees. They overwhelmingly go to the same careers.

That’s not really true. Econ and Finance majors from top schools may end up in IB and consulting, but you will find more Finance majors working for F500 companies either in trainee programs or going into financial planning & analysis or treasury functions. Econ majors aren’t usually hired for these roles.

Statistically, you have far more Econ majors pursuing graduate work vs finance majors as well (and interestingly, you have Math and Econ majors pursuing finance PhDs in higher numbers than finance undergrads).

I don't necessarily see the difference, other than you just saying econ majors aren't hired. From DC's recent cohort, quite a few are going to Apple after going into their Financial Developer program, and a ton participate in those trainee programs for financial planning and many of those jobs list "Finance, Financial Economics, Econ,..." as acceptable degrees. Sure, many went into IB or Consulting, but most end up in typical financial positions that you would get from a decent finance program. Of course, more people are going into Econ grad school-there's more economics to do out in the academic world, and if your goal is to work for the Fed or some prime-time international NPO, grad programs place well into them. The math majors going into finance want to be quants, not really surprising to me.

From what school? You have to go beyond the Top 50 to understand the difference for an Econ major vs a Finance major and career paths.

Actually…there is plenty of grad school work for Finance PhDs but schools have a hard time getting people to pursue those PhDs…that is why a finance PhD comes with a generous stipend and it is one of the few academic areas with lots of tenure-track jobs.

I don't see why. The type of students to get into a Finance PhD program are top students. The type of students to get into a good finance development program are from top schools overwhelmingly (in the case of Apple, they take a few "local" students at Santa Clara University for DEI). If you have the chops to get into a good finance career, you typically come from the top 50 or 100 colleges.
DC attended CMC.

Well…it depends a ton if you have an Econ or finance degree from CMC vs a finance or Econ degree from say University of Alabama. The finance majors probably have an easier time getting a job in the Coca Cola management trainee program vs the Econ majors…or a real world example, getting a job in the Capital One trainee program.

CMC doesn't have a finance undergrad program. I'm not sure about Capital one specifically, but most finance development programs do list econ as a sought-after background. Would you really want to design a finance program that excludes Harvard econ grads for example? If you have any prominence, you'll definitely be getting applications from top colleges, so it wouldn't really help to close those students off with a finance major requirement.

Most Harvard grads have little interest working for a F500 company…even if you designed a program for them I bet you wouldn’t even fill 50 interview slots at Harvard for say the Ford or Eli Lilly or John Deere Finance/Trainee program.

Companies know their target audience and are way more likely to recruit from Penn State than Harvard.

Really? It seems like people are always saying you need to graduate from places like Harvard to get in the door at Goldman Sachs, Apple, etc. Investment banking, engineering, etc. are no longer paths of interest for Harvard et al. grads?

It's also just not true. The top employers of almost every top college are Amazon, Apple, Google, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

Most of DCUM actually takes a big dump on history, English, etc humanities majors at any school…if you are generally polling overall DCUM sentiment.

There's currently a post asking how people feel about english majors, and people are overwhelmingly positive. DCUM is pretty receptive to liberal arts majors, tolerates STEM/Engineering, and takes a dump on pre-professional programs.

Sorry…DCUM cares about top schools and takes a huge shit on liberal arts majors….except if you procure such major from a top 20 school. Which of course says more about the prestige whoring aspect of DCUM in general which is its most common characteristic.

These people would think majoring in pottery making or some other naval gazing major at an ivy is better than majoring in business at a T50.

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Anonymous wrote:dcum always recommends CS and Engineering as degrees with best employment but I recruit finance undergrad and it is a decent major.

I don't really see the difference between DCUM promoting econ majors and finance degrees. They overwhelmingly go to the same careers.

That’s not really true. Econ and Finance majors from top schools may end up in IB and consulting, but you will find more Finance majors working for F500 companies either in trainee programs or going into financial planning & analysis or treasury functions. Econ majors aren’t usually hired for these roles.

Statistically, you have far more Econ majors pursuing graduate work vs finance majors as well (and interestingly, you have Math and Econ majors pursuing finance PhDs in higher numbers than finance undergrads).

I don't necessarily see the difference, other than you just saying econ majors aren't hired. From DC's recent cohort, quite a few are going to Apple after going into their Financial Developer program, and a ton participate in those trainee programs for financial planning and many of those jobs list "Finance, Financial Economics, Econ,..." as acceptable degrees. Sure, many went into IB or Consulting, but most end up in typical financial positions that you would get from a decent finance program. Of course, more people are going into Econ grad school-there's more economics to do out in the academic world, and if your goal is to work for the Fed or some prime-time international NPO, grad programs place well into them. The math majors going into finance want to be quants, not really surprising to me.

From what school? You have to go beyond the Top 50 to understand the difference for an Econ major vs a Finance major and career paths.

Actually…there is plenty of grad school work for Finance PhDs but schools have a hard time getting people to pursue those PhDs…that is why a finance PhD comes with a generous stipend and it is one of the few academic areas with lots of tenure-track jobs.

I don't see why. The type of students to get into a Finance PhD program are top students. The type of students to get into a good finance development program are from top schools overwhelmingly (in the case of Apple, they take a few "local" students at Santa Clara University for DEI). If you have the chops to get into a good finance career, you typically come from the top 50 or 100 colleges.
DC attended CMC.

Well…it depends a ton if you have an Econ or finance degree from CMC vs a finance or Econ degree from say University of Alabama. The finance majors probably have an easier time getting a job in the Coca Cola management trainee program vs the Econ majors…or a real world example, getting a job in the Capital One trainee program.

CMC doesn't have a finance undergrad program. I'm not sure about Capital one specifically, but most finance development programs do list econ as a sought-after background. Would you really want to design a finance program that excludes Harvard econ grads for example? If you have any prominence, you'll definitely be getting applications from top colleges, so it wouldn't really help to close those students off with a finance major requirement.

Most Harvard grads have little interest working for a F500 company…even if you designed a program for them I bet you wouldn’t even fill 50 interview slots at Harvard for say the Ford or Eli Lilly or John Deere Finance/Trainee program.

Companies know their target audience and are way more likely to recruit from Penn State than Harvard.

Really? It seems like people are always saying you need to graduate from places like Harvard to get in the door at Goldman Sachs, Apple, etc. Investment banking, engineering, etc. are no longer paths of interest for Harvard et al. grads?

It's also just not true. The top employers of almost every top college are Amazon, Apple, Google, etc.

source?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

Most of DCUM actually takes a big dump on history, English, etc humanities majors at any school…if you are generally polling overall DCUM sentiment.

There's currently a post asking how people feel about english majors, and people are overwhelmingly positive. DCUM is pretty receptive to liberal arts majors, tolerates STEM/Engineering, and takes a dump on pre-professional programs.

Sorry…DCUM cares about top schools and takes a huge shit on liberal arts majors….except if you procure such major from a top 20 school. Which of course says more about the prestige whoring aspect of DCUM in general which is its most common characteristic.

These people would think majoring in pottery making or some other naval gazing major at an ivy is better than majoring in business at a T50.

And would they be wrong with the consulting or bust culture of the ivies? I majored in something super impractical and really didn't have to worry, cause McKinsey had my back.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Several students from RMIB magnet are actually business or econ majors.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

Most of DCUM actually takes a big dump on history, English, etc humanities majors at any school…if you are generally polling overall DCUM sentiment.

There's currently a post asking how people feel about english majors, and people are overwhelmingly positive. DCUM is pretty receptive to liberal arts majors, tolerates STEM/Engineering, and takes a dump on pre-professional programs.

Sorry…DCUM cares about top schools and takes a huge shit on liberal arts majors….except if you procure such major from a top 20 school. Which of course says more about the prestige whoring aspect of DCUM in general which is its most common characteristic.

These people would think majoring in pottery making or some other naval gazing major at an ivy is better than majoring in business at a T50.

And would they be wrong with the consulting or bust culture of the ivies? I majored in something super impractical and really didn't have to worry, cause McKinsey had my back.

How long ago did you graduate, and what was your major? And do you have a masters?

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A lot of kids major in business because they don't know what else to do.

That was me. I've been making six figures for the past 25 years, all with just an undergrad BBA from a no name state u -- no loans. I'm going to retire soon in my mid 50s.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

A student at IU Kelley may be smarter than the average IU student, but those students in IU Kelley are NOT on average the same level of smarts as students from the top rigor/most academic group of top private and top public high schools. Those kids do Stem, Engineering, Liberal Arts at top schools, and if they want business they go to the big names, Wharton et al.
OP asked why DCum looks down on it—that is why. And it is consistent with what the PP teacher said regarding their high school, and what the vast majority of UMC parents see in their circles.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
It's especially competitive to get into the business programs at top schools if they have business programs.
UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, Emory, Michigan, Notre Dame, Berkeley, NYU, USC, UVA, UNC, etc.

At many of these schools, you have to competitively apply to the program after you get accepted to the university.
Thus, if they are in a business school, they are smarter on the average.

I don't see your logic. Because you have to apply separately, the kids are smarter. I'd venture to guess the average Physics student is smarter than an honors english student, but the english student will have to apply separately to get into his/her honors program.

Don't you understand 'on the average'??
On the average, students at MIT are smarter than students at UAlabama.
O the average, students in business programs are smarter than English major students.

Yes, I'm saying just slapping that to anything can be false.
On the average anthropology majors are smarter than sociology majors. Proof? none, but the anthropology major at X and Y school has to be applied to.
On the average, you have massively idiotic takes-just, on the average though.

Are you pretending to be dumb?
It's a common sense and simple logic.
It's competitive admission.
Smarter students get in and less smart ones get rejected.

Let me guess, you’re an undergraduate business major? Just because it’s competitive admission doesn’t mean the kids are smarter. Not everyone applies. Only the kids who want to pursue undergrad business degrees. And most agree that the most academically smart kids are not interested in undergrad business degrees.