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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:isn’t it still a cost saving to have just one wardrobe of clothes for both school and home? As opposed to uniforms for school and then casual clothes for home?

In any event, like most parents, I prefer the long tradition of no uniforms in US public schools. Reasonable dress codes and even the old ATS dress codes are fine with me, when feasible.

To be honest, our DC only has worn khaki pants and tennis/golf/polo type shirts since maybe age 2. Same clothes at school and at home - all unrelated to ATS.

Okay, but by mid elementary many (most?) kids prefer athletic pants or leggings and t-shirts.

PP. Ours will still be in khakis and tennis/golf/polo shirts. Our DC needs to focus on academics, not developing a “personal style”. Other families can do as they wish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:isn’t it still a cost saving to have just one wardrobe of clothes for both school and home? As opposed to uniforms for school and then casual clothes for home?

In any event, like most parents, I prefer the long tradition of no uniforms in US public schools. Reasonable dress codes and even the old ATS dress codes are fine with me, when feasible.

To be honest, our DC only has worn khaki pants and tennis/golf/polo type shirts since maybe age 2. Same clothes at school and at home - all unrelated to ATS.

Okay, but by mid elementary many (most?) kids prefer athletic pants or leggings and t-shirts.

So what? 8 year olds' preferences shouldn't be the driving forces in education policy.

I’d actually prefer uniforms, but think they’re at the bottom of the list when it comes to education policy at APS (including ATS).

[Anonymous]

**I’d actually prefer uniforms, but think they’re at the bottom of the list when it comes to problems with education policy at APS (including ATS).

Agree with the person who posted a few pages ago — ATS may be the best slice, but it’s still crappy government cheese.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

A few years ago, the Washington Post published a story about the geographic connection between the embassy location and affordable apartments in Rosslyn just across the bridge in the then ASFS zone a few years ago. A Mongolian language school was also set up at the old Wilson School in Rosslyn. Proximity was a major factor and it had been acknowledged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

They do tend to have larger families in my experience 3+ kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

They do tend to have larger families in my experience 3+ kids

But like… 17% of the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

They do tend to have larger families in my experience 3+ kids

But like… 17% of the school?

I don’t get the negative comments. Do you hate Mongolians or something? Who cares if they are 17% of the school? There are a lot of Mongolians in Arlington and the whole community is obsessed with ATS. Get it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

They do tend to have larger families in my experience 3+ kids

Because the majority of Mongolians with kids in Arlington apply to ATS. In fact based on the families I talk to, I wouldn’t be surprised if every single Mongolian family with kids in Arlington applies to ATS. I actually think the highlight Dr Duran gave was really silly. There were all these countries represented at international night so not sure why he made it seem like it was just about the Mongolian students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

They do tend to have larger families in my experience 3+ kids

But like… 17% of the school?

I don’t get the negative comments. Do you hate Mongolians or something? Who cares if they are 17% of the school? There are a lot of Mongolians in Arlington and the whole community is obsessed with ATS. Get it?

I think people are confused how a group that is something like 3% of the APS population is 17% of a school with a highly competitive lottery. They don't necessarily know how the less competitive VPI lottery gives guaranteed enrollment at the elementary level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For real though — how is ATS 17% Mongolian? This whole “lottery” system seems really fishy.

APS should check residency every year, especially for those attending option schools.

There is a substantial Mongolian immigrant community in Arlington.
https://wapo.st/4e8KPPs

I would assume this community helps others to know about the advantage of enrolling their kids in ATS's preschool.

Exactly. Essentially all low income in Arlington are immigrants, because low income whites just move to Fairfax/Pw because they want more space. The Mongolian population attracts other Mongolians, since it’s a natural support with similar language speakers, and educate them about school options. Additionally, if they have larger families, the VPI sibling combo will be a pipeline.

Arlington is a bit random, but partly because of better schools for a public transit orientated city. They likely came here without money to drive and no experience driving, so look for a city with good schools and good public transit. Arlington may well be the best one. Boston is a contender too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/03/mongolians-meld-old-new-in-making-arlington-home-span-classbankheaddrawn-partly-by-schools-enclave-rapidly-arises-span/77e1c04c-9e38-4c45-9574-d6320fc9f13c/

People often forget that the Mongolian Embassy is right across the river in nearby Georgetown. Back in the 90s, many first settled along Arlington’s urban orange line corridor.

Weirdest comment ever. All of the embassies, for all of the countries, are close by.

And doesn’t explain - at all - how the Mongolian students are so easily able to gain entry to a “lottery” school. (Unless each family has, like, 25 kids to take advantage of sibling preference?)

They do tend to have larger families in my experience 3+ kids

But like… 17% of the school?

I don’t get the negative comments. Do you hate Mongolians or something? Who cares if they are 17% of the school? There are a lot of Mongolians in Arlington and the whole community is obsessed with ATS. Get it?

I think people are confused how a group that is something like 3% of the APS population is 17% of a school with a highly competitive lottery. They don't necessarily know how the less competitive VPI lottery gives guaranteed enrollment at the elementary level.

Yeah it does seem like the majority get through the VPI program. But it’s not all of them because some of the families are not low income. It seems like ATS’ VPI program is well known in the Mongolian community so they just all apply (well the ones that qualify). I don’t think the VPI program is well advertised in general and perhaps APS should be doing more outreach to different communities. There are other ethnicities that are well represented in ATS by the way. There are a lot of Ethiopians and Eritreans as well.

[Anonymous]

What is so special about ATS and how it it different from other neighborhood schools? All I’ve heard about are the homework and the uniforms? How does it promote academic achievement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is so special about ATS and how it it different from other neighborhood schools? All I’ve heard about are the homework and the uniforms? How does it promote academic achievement?

Countless chains on that topic. Suffice it to say, ATS sets high standards and expects its students to meet them. That's the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is so special about ATS and how it it different from other neighborhood schools? All I’ve heard about are the homework and the uniforms? How does it promote academic achievement?

Countless chains on that topic. Suffice it to say, ATS sets high standards and expects its students to meet them. That's the difference.

What are we measuring success by? Standardized tests? 🥱