Why is JHU not especially popular w DC kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

The Homewood Campus is highly secured and gated.

When did you attend JHU? Baltimore, including the neighborhoods around the Homewood Campus, have become cesspools of drugged out, dangerous adults.

Are kids safe when they are on campus? Yes, JHU generally does a great job at keeping the criminals off of the actual campus. Are they safe once they leave? Nope. The campus police cannot protect them and the Baltimore police force is overwhelmed and full of corruption.

Bring your teen to the area right around campus on any night after sunset. Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable droping them off and leaving them there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

When did you attend JHU? Baltimore, including the neighborhoods around the Homewood Campus, have become cesspools of drugged out, dangerous adults.

I mean this is demonstrably untrue. But if your fear keeps you out of Baltimore, that's better for those of us who live here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

The Homewood Campus is highly secured and gated.

When did you attend JHU? Baltimore, including the neighborhoods around the Homewood Campus, have become cesspools of drugged out, dangerous adults.

Are kids safe when they are on campus? Yes, JHU generally does a great job at keeping the criminals off of the actual campus. Are they safe once they leave? Nope. The campus police cannot protect them and the Baltimore police force is overwhelmed and full of corruption.

Bring your teen to the area right around campus on any night after sunset. Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable droping them off and leaving them there?

The campus is not gated. I don’t think you have ever been there. And yes, I would drop either of my teens, who live in Baltimore, off there at night. In fact, I have. They sometimes go for dinner in Charles Village with their friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, part of living in BMore is having to explain why you live in BMore.

I think it is a badge of honor though some perceive it as a tear drop tattoo.

Ha! Love it. And extra points for a Cry Baby reference.

20 years in Baltimore (Charles Village/Hampden) and one broken window is the extent of the crime I’ve experienced. And despite what PP says about how “BLM destroyed Baltimore” (lol) I’ve had some very nice property appreciation.

I bought a rowhouse in 1999 for $135k and sold it in 2005 for $325k, bought a single family house in Homeland for $450k that’s now worth at least $650k. But I will probably never sell because I’m not willing to give up my $1800 monthly mortgage payment.

Never had a crime but my neighbor lost some change from his car when he left it unlocked one time

DP. Yup. This is the stuff of any urban area. Even in the suburbs, I've had the change rummaged out of my car (they also took a baggie of cornstarch for my baby's rash. I wonder if they thought they had hit the jackpot and would have loved to see their faces when they found out what it was). Also had a shooting across the street in our close-in DMV suburb.

I think some people just don't get cities. Not sure why Baltimore is singled out.
When I was at Oxford, my neighbor was attacked in her home and someone tried to break into mine. (And, someone stole my bike to boot). Way scarier than the boys who wanted to "borrow" my phone in Baltimore! I was like "sorry guys," and it was fine.

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No parties, no mixers, no "fun" people, etc..

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Anonymous wrote:No parties, no mixers, no "fun" people, etc..

Again, tell me you have never been to Hopkins. 30 percent in greek life, there are plenty of parties and mixers.

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My DC spent a month at JHU doing research after she'd graduated from a California school. She said she felt sorry for students who'd spent their full 4 undergrad years at JHU.

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Good if you want to go on to medical school but waaay too expensive for liberal arts majors. $80K for a degree in English or philosophy!! You will never get out of debt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

When did you attend JHU? Baltimore, including the neighborhoods around the Homewood Campus, have become cesspools of drugged out, dangerous adults.

I mean this is demonstrably untrue. But if your fear keeps you out of Baltimore, that's better for those of us who live here

🙄 You can demonstrate that it is true by driving to Homewood and looking out the car windows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very scary area. Unsafe to walk or jog. Depressing.

Another JHU alum who also worked at the hospital campus for 5 years, I think you are conflating and confusing the undergrad campus with the medical school/hospital campus. They are in two different parts of the city. Homewood, where the undergraduate campus is, is in the middle of UMC residential neighborhoods. The hospital/medical campus is in the more rugged part of the city. But even still, during the day, the medical campus is fine. It's only after dark that the night life comes out and it is less safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

The Homewood Campus is highly secured and gated.

When did you attend JHU? Baltimore, including the neighborhoods around the Homewood Campus, have become cesspools of drugged out, dangerous adults.

Are kids safe when they are on campus? Yes, JHU generally does a great job at keeping the criminals off of the actual campus. Are they safe once they leave? Nope. The campus police cannot protect them and the Baltimore police force is overwhelmed and full of corruption.

Bring your teen to the area right around campus on any night after sunset. Ask yourself if you would feel comfortable droping them off and leaving them there?

The campus is not gated. I don’t think you have ever been there. And yes, I would drop either of my teens, who live in Baltimore, off there at night. In fact, I have. They sometimes go for dinner in Charles Village with their friends.

Agreed. There are some trolls here who hate Baltimore.

If you want to see, go to Google maps and put in 3400 N Charles Street, Baltimore. Drop the little man for street view. There, you will see the main gate of Hopkins. No gate. You can go to the right and go north on N. Charles and you will more towards the undergraduate quad where the freshmen stay. No walls, no gates. Anyone can walk from Charles Street onto campus because it's an open campus. Go to Wyman Park Drive and you will see the south side entrance. This is the one near the Engineering quad and the administrative offices. No walls, no fences, no gates.

The troll above who talks about it being a gated campus has never been there, or is confusing it with some other university.

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Anonymous wrote:Very scary area. Unsafe to walk or jog. Depressing.

What?? The nicest running trail in the city runs through the park on the west of the Homewood Campus. It's extremely safe--I guess if you run at night you might trip and skin your knee because there's no lighting, but otherwise it's fine.

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This thread is hilarious. I teach at JHU. It is not gated, and the neighborhoods around the undergrad campus are quite safe. I let my ten year-old walk from my office back to our house regularly (it's about a fifteen minute walk).

We have plenty of kids from the DC suburbs. Student body is definitely impacted by the fact that admissions doesn't give legacy preferences and most sports don't give you too much of a boost either--lacrosse is an exception. My classes are full of smart students who work very hard. I do worry about some of them not having enough fun, but there's definitely a party scene for those who want to seek it out.

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Also, Hopkins security extends off campus, and soon will have policing powers. Personally as a Baltimore resident I don't think that's great (we don't need *more* unaccountable police in the city) but it makes the idea that the areas around campus are unsafe even sillier.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. I teach at JHU. It is not gated, and the neighborhoods around the undergrad campus are quite safe. I let my ten year-old walk from my office back to our house regularly (it's about a fifteen minute walk).

We have plenty of kids from the DC suburbs. Student body is definitely impacted by the fact that admissions doesn't give legacy preferences and most sports don't give you too much of a boost either--lacrosse is an exception. My classes are full of smart students who work very hard. I do worry about some of them not having enough fun, but there's definitely a party scene for those who want to seek it out.

Awww.
My (DMV!) kid is waiting on RD for JHU, and I just wanted to say you sound like such a nice professor! If my child miraculously gets in, I hope you teach one of their classes!