The Bachelor (Joey)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He really eliminated most of the girls now. It’s almost down to home-towns. It’s hard to know who he’s falling for.

He seems most into Kelsey and Daisy. Attracted to Maria but not secure with her. Solid vibe with Rachel, but less physical chemistry than with the others imo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He really eliminated most of the girls now. It’s almost down to home-towns. It’s hard to know who he’s falling for.

He seems most into Kelsey and Daisy. Attracted to Maria but not secure with her. Solid vibe with Rachel, but less physical chemistry than with the others imo.

Also attracted to Jenn but feels pretty surface.

[Anonymous]

SPECULATION:

He proposes to Daisy and she declines because she's not in love with him (this has been foreshadowed). Or the engagement is short-lived because she's just not as into him as he is into her. He then asks Kelsey to date, she says yes, and they do. That's the only twist I can think of that hasn't happened before.

[Anonymous]

Maria's so annoying. Just selfish, self-absorbed and not nearly as attractive as she thinks she is. Her outfit was so trashy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SPECULATION:

He proposes to Daisy and she declines because she's not in love with him (this has been foreshadowed). Or the engagement is short-lived because she's just not as into him as he is into her. He then asks Kelsey to date, she says yes, and they do. That's the only twist I can think of that hasn't happened before.

Reality Steve corrected his finale spoiler. This is not what happens but I don't want to say if you're in the ballpark. People can google if they want to know.

[Anonymous]

From his interviews on the show, its clear he doesn't feel that he is deserving of love which is sad. I think that's why he's keeping Rachel- she makes him actually feel wanted and safe... and she's a safe choice. She's not "out of his league"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From his interviews on the show, its clear he doesn't feel that he is deserving of love which is sad. I think that's why he's keeping Rachel- she makes him actually feel wanted and safe... and she's a safe choice. She's not "out of his league"

I think it's more that he was scarred by the Charity rejection and is terrified it will happen again.

[Anonymous]

I don't think he was really in love with Charity and didn't feel that bad getting rejected.

I think Joey is scared to be rejected because he knows the producers picked him to be the lead and he doesn't want to fail publicly.

I listen to Nick Viall's podcast off and on. He thought that Joey was telling different women, especially Maria, that they should not fret because they MIGHT be the final one. Like being among the final 4-6 contestants is comforting. Nick says Joey is not internalizing that each woman who is fretting IS ACTUALLY wanting to BE THE FINAL woman. They already have their hearts in it and they are visualizing being engaged to him. Joey telling them that they are in the top 4 is cold comfort and suggests that Joey doesn't really understand how invested the women are at this point because HE must not have been all that invested in getting engaged to Charity.

That makes sense to me.

I don't see Joey having much emotion for any of the women. Past bachelors or bachelorettes have either been gushing over a couple of guys or freaking out that they are falling for more than one person. Joey seems very chill... emotionally polite, but distant. I don't think Joey is actually envisioning himself getting married or engage. He seems to be looking for someone to date.

I don't usually say this about the couples before the show ends, or even when it does end.... but I see a break up within 12 mons. Joey's not the kind of 28 yr old who has marriage on the brain. Maybe when he's 35, he'll be down for it. There is nothing about his history or his current life that says, "Let's settle down, buy a house and have kids." He can't even "settle down" to one city.

Speaking of which ---- we really don't know ANYTHING about Joey other than he plays tennis and he is a decent listener. We know nothing about his goals, he doesn't seem to have a job or own a home. He's not attached to any city. Who IS he? Right now he's just a blank slate for the women to project their imaginations onto.

[Anonymous]

Maria is ugly. I don see what Joey sees in her.
The drama queen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maria is ugly. I don see what Joey sees in her.
The drama queen.

her eyebrows!!! Tame those!

[Anonymous]

Daisy doesn’t seem to be too infatuated with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Daisy doesn’t seem to be too infatuated with him.

+1 Not at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daisy doesn’t seem to be too infatuated with him.

+1 Not at all.

Daisy has a lot going on in her life. She is a hot ticket. When she looks at Joey, she sees someone who does not have his life figured out yet. She isn't impressed by him.

Admiration is really important to being a good match. Each person has to think that they are lucky to have the other. Joey is impressed by Daisy, but not the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think he was really in love with Charity and didn't feel that bad getting rejected.

I think Joey is scared to be rejected because he knows the producers picked him to be the lead and he doesn't want to fail publicly.

I listen to Nick Viall's podcast off and on. He thought that Joey was telling different women, especially Maria, that they should not fret because they MIGHT be the final one. Like being among the final 4-6 contestants is comforting. Nick says Joey is not internalizing that each woman who is fretting IS ACTUALLY wanting to BE THE FINAL woman. They already have their hearts in it and they are visualizing being engaged to him. Joey telling them that they are in the top 4 is cold comfort and suggests that Joey doesn't really understand how invested the women are at this point because HE must not have been all that invested in getting engaged to Charity.

That makes sense to me.

I don't see Joey having much emotion for any of the women. Past bachelors or bachelorettes have either been gushing over a couple of guys or freaking out that they are falling for more than one person. Joey seems very chill... emotionally polite, but distant. I don't think Joey is actually envisioning himself getting married or engage. He seems to be looking for someone to date.

I don't usually say this about the couples before the show ends, or even when it does end.... but I see a break up within 12 mons. Joey's not the kind of 28 yr old who has marriage on the brain. Maybe when he's 35, he'll be down for it. There is nothing about his history or his current life that says, "Let's settle down, buy a house and have kids." He can't even "settle down" to one city.

Speaking of which ---- we really don't know ANYTHING about Joey other than he plays tennis and he is a decent listener. We know nothing about his goals, he doesn't seem to have a job or own a home. He's not attached to any city. Who IS he? Right now he's just a blank slate for the women to project their imaginations onto.

Nick is an emotionally stunted man so I would take his “thoughts“ on this with a grain of salt! He is well hated with the bachelor kingdom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think he was really in love with Charity and didn't feel that bad getting rejected.

I think Joey is scared to be rejected because he knows the producers picked him to be the lead and he doesn't want to fail publicly.

I listen to Nick Viall's podcast off and on. He thought that Joey was telling different women, especially Maria, that they should not fret because they MIGHT be the final one. Like being among the final 4-6 contestants is comforting. Nick says Joey is not internalizing that each woman who is fretting IS ACTUALLY wanting to BE THE FINAL woman. They already have their hearts in it and they are visualizing being engaged to him. Joey telling them that they are in the top 4 is cold comfort and suggests that Joey doesn't really understand how invested the women are at this point because HE must not have been all that invested in getting engaged to Charity.

That makes sense to me.

I don't see Joey having much emotion for any of the women. Past bachelors or bachelorettes have either been gushing over a couple of guys or freaking out that they are falling for more than one person. Joey seems very chill... emotionally polite, but distant. I don't think Joey is actually envisioning himself getting married or engage. He seems to be looking for someone to date.

I don't usually say this about the couples before the show ends, or even when it does end.... but I see a break up within 12 mons. Joey's not the kind of 28 yr old who has marriage on the brain. Maybe when he's 35, he'll be down for it. There is nothing about his history or his current life that says, "Let's settle down, buy a house and have kids." He can't even "settle down" to one city.

Speaking of which ---- we really don't know ANYTHING about Joey other than he plays tennis and he is a decent listener. We know nothing about his goals, he doesn't seem to have a job or own a home. He's not attached to any city. Who IS he? Right now he's just a blank slate for the women to project their imaginations onto.

Nick is an emotionally stunted man so I would take his “thoughts“ on this with a grain of salt! He is well hated with the bachelor kingdom.

You are about 10-12 years out of date in your assessment. He has a very successful podcast and if you listened to it, I think you'd find that he's grown a LOT.