Donald Trump wins Iowa Republican caucuses in first contests of 2024

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4" of snow and the government closes, yet people manage to get to the Iowa caucus despite much worse weather. Doesn't THAT tell a story

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Anonymous wrote:It’s more like 50% at this point in the count.

The real development here is De Santis edging out Haley. He needed this to prove to donors that he’s still viable and he nailed it.

DeSantis and Haley are gone. Both will drop out after Turnip wins NH. Neither are "viable" and neither "nailed it."

Nailing it would be defeating Turnip or coming very close. Turnip got more votes than DeSantis and Haley combined. He got more votes than everyone else combined. It's a blowout. A thumping, huge blowout.

But it is just a caucus so you can always hope and dream for another day despite the realities on earth. Turnip is going to steamroll through the rest of the primaries, lock up the nomination and most likely defeat Biden in November.

My prediction is that NH won't be as easy for Trump as Iowa was. New England conservatives tend to be conservative in a more traditional sense than in a populist MAGA sense. That isn't to say there are no MAGAs in NH, there certainly are, but I suspect there are a lot of NH Republicans who don't care for Trump.

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Again, Trump only got a tick above 50% out of a very low turnout and nearly half didn't vote for someone who essentially is the GOP incumbent.

Combine that with Iowa having previously voted for Huckaby, Sanotrum and Cruz, I think it's safe to say that Iowa means almost nothing, despite the media breathlessly making something out of it.

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Anonymous wrote:We are going to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket. I hope that Vivek is not appointed to a high level position, he rhetoric is much more concerning and he does not have enough experience.

Trump will likely win from the following:

-Anti-immigrant platform

-People will remember the stimulus check they got

-Trump has had the highest vote of any recent Republicans among young African American voters. Immigration affects their community the most.

- Trump's earlier platform and plan for the African American community seems reasonable and plausible. The Biden Admin has done nothing of the sort to my knowledge.

-People don't want to go to war with Russia and in the Middle East. They would rather America mind it's business.

-DEI initiatives and other diversity issues around identity are starting to rub people wrong.

-Some people have not paid attention to the Trump trial and feel he has been wrongly oppressed. 🧐

-Biden has lost a great deal of the Arab vote across the country, so these people are likely to swing toward Trump.

-Asians might split their vote under Trump.

But yes, it's very real that a Trump presidency could happen again.

Then you are not paying attention.

SBA loans to minority businesses
Student debt relief to millions of students of color
direct subsidies to HBCUs

Seriously you are spouting off on this without any knowledge of what Biden has done during his presidency.

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Anonymous wrote:We are going to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket. I hope that Vivek is not appointed to a high level position, he rhetoric is much more concerning and he does not have enough experience.

Trump will likely win from the following:

-Anti-immigrant platform

-People will remember the stimulus check they got

-Trump has had the highest vote of any recent Republicans among young African American voters. Immigration affects their community the most.

- Trump's earlier platform and plan for the African American community seems reasonable and plausible. The Biden Admin has done nothing of the sort to my knowledge.

-People don't want to go to war with Russia and in the Middle East. They would rather America mind it's business.

-DEI initiatives and other diversity issues around identity are starting to rub people wrong.

-Some people have not paid attention to the Trump trial and feel he has been wrongly oppressed. 🧐

-Biden has lost a great deal of the Arab vote across the country, so these people are likely to swing toward Trump.

-Asians might split their vote under Trump.

But yes, it's very real that a Trump presidency could happen again.

More likely they stay home. they are not going to vote for someone who wants to deport them, and it is more likely that they will see Biden as the lessor of two evils as the US continues to pull away from Netanyahu.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, Trump only got a tick above 50% out of a very low turnout and nearly half didn't vote for someone who essentially is the GOP incumbent.

Combine that with Iowa having previously voted for Huckaby, Sanotrum and Cruz, I think it's safe to say that Iowa means almost nothing, despite the media breathlessly making something out of it.

44% of the voters fought the weather to vote for a candidate they knew couldn't win. That says something there.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s more like 50% at this point in the count.

The real development here is De Santis edging out Haley. He needed this to prove to donors that he’s still viable and he nailed it.

DeSantis and Haley are gone. Both will drop out after Turnip wins NH. Neither are "viable" and neither "nailed it."

Nailing it would be defeating Turnip or coming very close. Turnip got more votes than DeSantis and Haley combined. He got more votes than everyone else combined. It's a blowout. A thumping, huge blowout.

But it is just a caucus so you can always hope and dream for another day despite the realities on earth. Turnip is going to steamroll through the rest of the primaries, lock up the nomination and most likely defeat Biden in November.

My prediction is that NH won't be as easy for Trump as Iowa was. New England conservatives tend to be conservative in a more traditional sense than in a populist MAGA sense. That isn't to say there are no MAGAs in NH, there certainly are, but I suspect there are a lot of NH Republicans who don't care for Trump.

Independents can vote in the NH primary. That’s why Haley is expected to do well.

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Anonymous wrote:We are going to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket. I hope that Vivek is not appointed to a high level position, he rhetoric is much more concerning and he does not have enough experience.

Trump will likely win from the following:

-Anti-immigrant platform

-People will remember the stimulus check they got

-Trump has had the highest vote of any recent Republicans among young African American voters. Immigration affects their community the most.

- Trump's earlier platform and plan for the African American community seems reasonable and plausible. The Biden Admin has done nothing of the sort to my knowledge.

-People don't want to go to war with Russia and in the Middle East. They would rather America mind it's business.

-DEI initiatives and other diversity issues around identity are starting to rub people wrong.

-Some people have not paid attention to the Trump trial and feel he has been wrongly oppressed. 🧐

-Biden has lost a great deal of the Arab vote across the country, so these people are likely to swing toward Trump.

-Asians might split their vote under Trump.

But yes, it's very real that a Trump presidency could happen again.

Who are the new voters since 2016 or 2020 who are going to gravitate to Trump?

Anyone coming of age (ie 18-16) came of age with gun drills in schools, COVID and related shutdowns, and abortion being taken away. These voters, who are VERY motivated, skew 62% for Biden.

Add to that the republican women who espoused to be pro-life but with exceptions, being horrified by what Texas has done with penalizing women, same with Ohio. And that is republican women. Indpendent women have already shown in Kansas and Ohio voters will do when womens health is on the ballot.

And then most people who actually follow the news can make the case that Biden has steered the US out of the dumpster fire economy that Trump left the first time, that the US economy is the envy of the world, that the inflation in the US is the lowest in the world (except Japan) - so it is a global issue that Biden policies help mitigate eventhough it is still an issue.

On global affairs, the US is reestablished as the leader of the pack, and if the GOP would fund Ukraine, the Ukrainians could defeat Russia and end the threat that Putin poses. Instead, the GOP withholding aid has embolded iran, Russia and China to sabre-rattle, causing the issues we have right now in Gaza, Taiwan and Yeman.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did he only get 50%?

Cause he suuuuucks

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Anonymous wrote:Again, Trump only got a tick above 50% out of a very low turnout and nearly half didn't vote for someone who essentially is the GOP incumbent.

Combine that with Iowa having previously voted for Huckaby, Sanotrum and Cruz, I think it's safe to say that Iowa means almost nothing, despite the media breathlessly making something out of it.

THIS. This is Iowa's quadrennial moment in the sun before we go back to ignoring it. Trump winning is no surprise. Let's move on.

[Anonymous]

Trump will never pick DeSantis or Haley as VP. Both have said (softly) "mean" things about him. He wants a stoolie. I bet he picks Kristie Noem. She's crazy and good-looking enough for him.

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Anonymous wrote:I am in Texas and I think immigration is maybe 9 on my list of public policy concerns.

But Republicans have certainly been successful winning support via xenophobia.

What’s fascinating is legal immigrants/naturalized US citizens are the most upset about illegal immigration and make up a sizable but not talked about part of Trumps base .

Nobody despises illegal immigration more than actual naturalized citizens/legal immigrants who went the right way about going things and had to pay their way in with immigration lawyers, green cards, taking the citizenship exam, learning English and civics to take the exam.

Most US born citizens can’t even pass the US citizenship exam-I don’t think Trump can even pas. Most Americans can’t name the three branches of government or Nine SC judges or checks and balances of power . It’s a tedious process to become a naturalized U.S. citizen and most immigrants are very proud of it and rightfully so. Imagine how maddening it feels for them that others get to cut the line and get paid for it with housing, food, healthcare, and jobs. All the accommodations without speaking a word of English or coming here legally. It is unfair

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, only 100k showed up? Less than 2/3 of 2016 turnout. That is embarrassingly low turnout. Seems like republicans are not enthusiastic about their choices.

Flights cancelled, super cold, snow

Wait so all the Iowa Republicans who had to fly back home to go caucus had their flights cancelled so they couldn’t show? Is this seriously what you’re trying to tell us?

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Anonymous wrote:Again, Trump only got a tick above 50% out of a very low turnout and nearly half didn't vote for someone who essentially is the GOP incumbent.

Combine that with Iowa having previously voted for Huckaby, Sanotrum and Cruz, I think it's safe to say that Iowa means almost nothing, despite the media breathlessly making something out of it.

THIS. This is Iowa's quadrennial moment in the sun before we go back to ignoring it. Trump winning is no surprise. Let's move on.

Iowa farmers also get Trump's hypocritical subsidies from the damage caused by his failed tariff policies.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, only 100k showed up? Less than 2/3 of 2016 turnout. That is embarrassingly low turnout. Seems like republicans are not enthusiastic about their choices.

MAGA is blaming the weather, but that’s Midwest weather. Enthusiasm was mild at best.

It was the coldest caucus in history with temps in the negative 30's. Many parking lots were not cleared and walkways were slippery from the snow a few days ago.
Most pundits were predicting a low turn out because of the bitter cold.
Bottom line.... Trump won over 50% of the vote - more than any candidate has ever won.
And, he got more votes than he received in 2016.
It was definitely a win for him.

If Biden only got 50% in a primary, I’d be pretty concerned.

Iowa doesn't have a primary. It has a caucus, which is what occurred last night. Caucuses are closer to rank ordering than a straight vote. More to the point, the vote for Trump was the largest percentage in Iowa caucus history. To say it another way, no candidate has ever done better in an Iowa caucus in the history of Iowa caucuses. So the interpretation that this is a lackluster outcome is not contextually logical.

Wrong. Bush did much better in 2004.

Bush was the incumbent, so that was a proforma caucus. Out of what we consider actual contests, this is the biggest win on record.

Didn't Trump win in 2020?

No. He lost and the incumbent is Biden. I'm sure Biden crushed his Iowa caucus this year, along with every other incumbent each caucus. The media generally only focuses on the party that isn't in office.

Funny. Trump keeps saying he won in 2020. Is he lying?