People who talk about a school being “too low” view college admissions as some sort of achievement or reward rather than a destination that best suits their child and their child’s passions. It’s a sad mindset. Thank you for this post! My kid was a lifer at a big 3 and was done with the small class sizes. He wanted to go to a big state U and have fun. My son has had a blast in college, first semester. He currently has a 3.8 gpa. His classes are "easier" than his HS classes. My son is not special but our private school taught him how to work with Professors, TA's and the like. Taught him to advocate for himself. On a side note, some people always criticize parents that send their kids to private schools. You do you. Our investment has paid off well for our son. I wish the best for you children! sounds like a great outcome, congrats! My DC had the reverse experience lol - went to a big public HS and had a blast, and then went to a top SLAC (for a sport), and found the private school kid vibe was not his cup of tea. Transferring to a larger public which presumably will have less of this vibe |
You have the power to just not play the game and look for schools outside the T20. The outcome is crazy because every High School Senior in America is applying to the same 50 schools. |
Students who are admitted will bring in all of their own interests and talents. They don't need to be "assembled". So, Harvard got one less Oboe player one year because of this. Cry me a river! Does Oxford UK not have an excellent range of student? Did they need to be curated into an assembled group? This is a bunch of AO/Univ nonsense that they have come up with to maintain total control over what they do. Don't drink the Kool-Aid... Regarding options, let the matching apply to potentially more than one Univ for the ED round..those who don't want to play can go RD. |
Great idea. |
+1000. Univs admissions offices are oligopolies that will do practically anything to keep their power. Even faculty have zero input into what they do. Which also explains a lot. |
The vast majority of universities in the USA have admission rates over 50%. Only the T50 have lower, with a smattering in the 50-100 that are slightly lower (35-40%). There are plenty of excellent choices your kid can use as a safety/target. And those other countries, most kids are going to university that is within 2 hours of their home, many live at home during college. They are not aiming for "elite" universities---they are just looking to get an education. Most kids in Europe are not chasing elite schools---they smartly look for something not too far from home that has their major interest (which they were often tracked onto at age 12/13. Our system is fine---as long as you dont feel entitled to attend a T25 school. |
It is up to each school how they want to create their class, not you. If you look outside the T25 you simply won't have this issue. You are not entitled to a seat in the T25. It's okay, your kid will be just fine |
Oxford assembles. They don't just admit by A levels. There are department specific exams and interviews. |
Yes, they do. More importantly, why should you decide and not the university?
Why should Harvard suffer one less of anything they want because you don't like ED? Also, your point is a strawman - we're not talking about "one less oboe player" - we are talking about possible massive imbalances across majors, disciplines and talents. You know elite schools have elite departments and faculty who have demands and requirements, right? Have you ever even spoken to an admissions officer about what they do, or even read one book on it?
American universities are different and work differently, you know that, it has been explained in 1000 threads here.
Here's a neat idea: how about we let students apply wherever they want and let the universities choose whoever they want? Then let the student choose what they want from 1 or more acceptances? Really novel idea, right? |
On what do you base this position that faculty has zero input? |