Right now the top firms that pay the most are some tech firms, pe shops and quant funds. Those firms don't care where you went to school but how fast you can solve problems or code. Going to a good school just assures you atleadt get an interview. The interviews are purely technical. They are not looking for squash players. There is another category of jobs that looks for skills that student athletes bring. If someone is great at something be it math, physics or a sport, there is a place for that person because they will appeal to some employer's preference. |
YES! And once again the middle class, even the UMC, gets short thrift because the students and professors think everyone is an oppressor or oppressed. Don’t you see how this has transpired? When I went to a top 30 in the 80s, there were plenty of “regular” UMC kids - perhaps because the Reagan tax cuts had not led to the situation we’re in now where execs makes 100s of times the salary of entry level workers. Now it is different, unless you are lucky enough to live in a LCOL area with a nationally-indexed salary or independent business earning power. |
WTH? Did you make an error in your post? The above bolded schools I see (Vandy, Rice, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Emory) are continuing to INCREASE in popularity. They are not declining! |
You keep saying that yet Big 10 universities in the so-called Rust Belt are enjoying a surge in applications. Lots of kids don't want to go south for different reasons and can get the big school, big time sports, fun party experience in the Big 10. |
You’d be surprised. Not everyone is getting a job. |
I was in Pittsburgh for a week on business last year, and came away with the impression that it was a city on the rise. It was vibrant and well situated, and it seemed like it had shed its industrial past. YMMV, but I think it'd be a great place to spend four years. (I have no experience with the rest of the Rust Belt though.) |
+1 Many of these midwestern schools are on fire: Purdue, Chicago, U Mich, U Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, etc. The small LACs in tiny towns in the Midwest, ok, I agree that many are struggling. But that is true almost anywhere. More of the college-bound population is being raised in urban areas, and they don’t want to live in the sticks at college. |
Can’t speak about tech firms and quant funds, but I have spent 20+ years in private equity, working for some of the big ones and I can tell you that you are completely wrong! PE remains VERY pedigree driven. Firms recruit almost exclusively from Ivy plus Schools. It’s nearly impossible to get an interview if you don’t come from one of these schools. Also, people on here act like the kids coming from Ivy plus don’t have the tech skills. I don’t know what you are smoking. Year after year we get Ivy plus candidates with top tech skills. On top of that, they all have top GPAs and have proved strong leadership ability, either in a sport or another competitive on campus activity. They are fiercely competitive. |
Maybe PE firms are different but I know quant shops are not looking for pedigree. |
This is true for our company. The idea that anyone is moved at all by the sports that played at Dartmouth is laughable. Feels very 90s |
Let us know when you move there. Lol. |
I was just offered a job in Columbus! I didn't take it, but if I had young kids I'd be tempted. The pay was just what I was making in nyc before my last raise. A lot happening there and a totally great QOL |
Not the person you are responding to, but a lot of these young people at the ivies may end up struggling to get jobs, especially as the investigations into these Universities continue and more is revealed. There is too much indoctrination and not enough political diversity, diversity of thought and respectful communication. The last thing a workplace needs is an over-confident/entitled most likely privileged young person with a rigid belief system who hasn't learned the importance of civil and peaceful discussion with those with whom you disagree. Despite high test scores too many young people from these schools are not demonstrating critical thinking skills and tolerance for differences. It seems some of the indoctrination and rigid thinking begins at the top private schools, not the ivies, so some of these graduates will have had over 12 years of learning there is only one way to view a situation and other view points will be frowned upon and possibly punished. |
It’s about 1000x more interesting than the areas in the DC region where universities are located. |
+1 it is. |